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Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
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May 29

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May 29, 2025 (2025-05-29) (Thursday)

Politics and elections

May 28

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May 28, 2025 (2025-05-28) (Wednesday)

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2025 UEFA Conference League final

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Article: 2025 UEFA Conference League final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Chelsea F.C. win the UEFA Conference League and become the first team in history to win all four European club football competitions (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Chelsea Football Club win UEFA Conference League becoming the first football club to win all four major European trophies
News source(s): Skysports
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Nominator's comments: Trophy win on its own is not significant, but the context of being the first team ever to win all UEFA European club competitions makes it a worthy ITN candidate. Others can suggest alternative blurbs. Heatrave (talk) 21:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the blurb makes it seem like more of an achievement than it is, it’s the third tier of European football, most top teams want to avoid it. Seems more like a novelty than an achievement. Interesting but maybe not ITN worthy Kowal2701 (talk) 22:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb Chelsea are the first team EVER to win all the international trophies 185.34.130.25 (talk) 22:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support Alternative blurb cheers to Chelsea!! They're first club in history to win every European major honour. Congratulations CFC QalasQalas (talk) 01:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose largely per Masem, not seeing any evidence that this particular combination of achievements has much standalone enduring notability, and the nomination statement even concedes that the Trophy win on its own is not significant. According to NYT/The Athletic, this tournament has only been around four years (also meaning this combination of achievements has only been possible in the last four years), which is far less than what is typically seen of those at WP:ITNR#Sports. Left guide (talk) 02:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that I've protected a couple of Chelsea images in case this gains support. Schwede66 02:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Great!! QalasQalas (talk) 03:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD/Blurb: Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o

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Article: Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Kenyan writer and activist Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o dies at the age of 87. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News: Giant of African literature Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o dies aged 87
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o was considered a giant of African literature (BBC News, Encyclopedia Britannica: Ngugi wa Thiong’o...considered East Africa's leading novelist, Cambridge Scholars Publishing : "the leading man of letters from East Africa and one of the most significant writers from the postcolonial world", NPR: "a perennial favorite for the Literature Nobel") and was extremely influential in the postcolonialism movement; in my opinion he is not a bad candidate for a blurb. Jaguarnik (talk) 20:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Blurb in terms of notability. Titanic figure in African literature, in particular due to his promotion of writing in local languages. Quality may need a final polish, but article overall looks good. Khuft (talk) 21:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD Unsure if the African figure has an important figure similar to President or other head of state regarding his/her death, but the posting as RD makes it more necessary for me. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 21:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support blurb I've never heard of this person before but based on the article he appears decently important. The article is fully cited, although it is a bit short for a blurb biography. --SpectralIon 02:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb He is a Level 4 vital article, which means that he is very important by community consensus. I think that he is important enough to blurb. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:50, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb A "titan of modern African literature". "OLDMANDIES" argument doesn’t makes sense. ArionStar (talk) 03:41, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan

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Article: Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio Dalsan
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Late general he was veteran during Siad Barre rule QalasQalas (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support A well-known Somali military official. Article looks fine and well-sourced. 185.34.130.25 (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Per Nørgård

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Article: Per Nørgård (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Danish composer Grimes2 12:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Ōnosato Daiki promotion to yokozuna

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Article: Ōnosato Daiki (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ōnosato Daiki (pictured) becomes sumo's 75th yokozuna. (Post)
News source(s): [1][2]
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 KTC (talk) 07:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Well written and follows the standard set previously.
ZenZekey (talk) 19:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 27

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RD: Freddie Aguilar

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Article: Freddie Aguilar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Manila Standard, ABS-CBN News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 ROY is WAR Talk! 03:44, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Visit to Canada

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Article: 2025 royal tour of Canada (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ King Charles III visits Canada and delivers a speech from the throne to open the 45th Canadian Parliament.
News source(s): https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/king-charles-delivers-throne-speech-1.7544242
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 TimeEngineer (talk) 08:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I respect your view, but this is (a) not about Trump (and the coverage is mostly not about him), and (b) not routine. The last time the Monarch gave a speech from the Throne in Canada was 50 years ago, and the last time a King or Queen visited was 2010. Its not a frequent occurrence. TimeEngineer (talk) 09:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see what you mean about Trump, that's my fault as I mostly consume american news. I nevertheless think that the first clause is a reason enough to oppose. It seems more likely to fall under "huh, that's interesing" rather than "this will have long-term conseuqences". It might make a good DYK though. –DMartin 09:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Twice a century for the King of Canada to do this? I'd hardly call that routine. Heck, it's the first time a King has done it - the other two were by the Queen. Nfitz (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose notable? Like any visit by a Head of State to another country, especially if it is by a monarch. Routine? Also, it is one of the functions that HoS should perform. It's not ITN-worthy just because of the latter and if it has anything to do with Trump it's totally irrelevant and just another part of the political drama of his administration's bid to annex Canada. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The visit is certainly in the news but it's still ongoing and the King opens the Canadian parliament today, which is the main event. Updates to the article are needed as the plans turn into history. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. The Kip (contribs) 15:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support, but as blurb because it is basically already over. With respect, many of the oppose rationales are not policy-based, and likely come from editors who are simply associating the visit with Trump as opposed to fully appreciating the once in a lifetime nature of the event. In my view, it surpasses the notability threshold for two reasons: (a) even in spite of the Trump aspect, it is a historic, once in a lifetime type of thing (the last time this happened was in 1977, so claims above that it is 'routine' are objectively incorrect) and (b) it is getting objectively widespread, in depth coverage amongst global reliable sources: from publications in the UK, Australia, the USA, China, France, Germany, I could go on. Very little of this coverage is 100% focused on Trump, and he is not even involved in the event, so WP:NTRUMP does not apply. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 18:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose WP:NTRUMP also applies to any public figure or institution that is influential enough to the point that the press reports their every single movement. Completely non-notable visit. — EF5 18:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Above, I hyperlinked publications like the New York Times, the South China Morning Post, Le Monde, and Spiegel, who each have indepth reporting on this visit. Do you have evidence to back your claim that they "report on the every single movement" of King Charles III? The opposite seems true to me - many of those outlets rarely report on King Charles's goings-on, but this is so notable that they have made an exception. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 18:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Flipandflopped, I'll formulate a response shortly, but I highly suggest you strike the and likely come from Americans who are simply associating the visit with Trump as opposed to fully appreciating the once in a lifetime nature of the event part of your statement. It's completely inappropriate to discount votes because they are of a certain demographic and speculating on the nationality of editors can constitute WP:OUTING. — EF5 19:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Let's turn down the temperature a bit. In no conceivable way did I violate WP:OUTING, and I never said anyone's votes should be discounted. I respectfully stated an opinion that the WP:NTRUMP rationales were coming from an overly American perspective, which was not intended to be derogatory at all. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 19:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • You did not say that WP:NTRUMP rationales were coming from an overly American perspective, you said the editors themselves are Americans who are simply associating the visit with Trump, which is assuming every oppose voter is American and is, as I stated, inappropriate. Thank you for changing it, though. — EF5 19:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support, given that King Charles is quite ill, and any major foreign visit by him is quite unusual. Nsk92 (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A visit of the King of Canada to Canada isn't a foreign visit. For the same reason that Canada doesn't have an embassy in the UK. Nfitz (talk) 22:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    has a High Commission in London though which serves the same function. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose as unimportant national-level address. If NTRUMP doesn't apply, then this was not notable to begin with. The relevant essay would be NCHARLES, correct? Departure– (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm going to add that I don't see how this is notable in of itself. The real story here is the opening of the Canadian parliament, but that's not ITNR and a done deal given the election.
    To clarify my other reason, I take it that this is getting a lot of coverage due to the context that this is taking place during Trump's second coming, but a lot of the folks I see giving rationales on coverage also reject NTRUMP having any bearing. It's established that it's only an essay, but the underlying truth is still there, and that is that material can be substantially overreported on occasion, and given how this has to do with both the King of England and Donald Trump, this easily is covered by it. Simply put, if Trump was not involved, at least for context, then there would be substantially less coverage and this would likely not have been nominated, let alone posted.
    I can't see how this is any more notable than any other "rare" event. Just because something hasn't happened in a while doesn't automatically make it notable. I'm really not seeing how this is notable; Charles made a speech, and that was that. Departure– (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such person as the King of England, and there hasn't been since William III died. There is, however, such a person as the King of Canada, and this story is about him. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The visit has been completed, widely reported and the article updated. Essays are irrelevant per WP:ESSAY, "Essays have no official status and do not speak for the Wikipedia community..." Andrew🐉(talk) 22:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Is this a !vote on quality or notability? Departure– (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ITN deals in quality and significance, not notability. My !vote follows on my earlier comment and addresses both and more besides. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leaning oppose on importance. BD2412 T 22:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I'm not seeing why this deserves a blurb. Heads of state visit other countries all the time, and we almost never post them, so what makes this one so much more important that it deserves to be posted? QuicoleJR (talk) 23:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Maybe grounds for a future DYK, but ultimately it’s just a head of state visiting part of their realm. Not remotely newsworthy internationally any more so than if the Danish monarch visited Greenland, the Japanese emperor visited the Ryukyus, or the French President visited Guadeloupe. RPH (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support it is a momentous occasion for the country to have the monarch open Parliament as King of Canada - the first King (male sovereign) to do so and only the third time in the country's history; Canada has a long and complicated relationship with the monarchy, and this move is a clear and decisive statement that Canada will be taking a turn away from the "post-national state" towards embracing a nationalist model of "three founding peoples: indigenous, French, and British", as PM Carney indicated in his inaugural speech. Most people are surprised to learn that Canada is a kingdom, this was not the visit of a foreign head of state as some are saying. This is a deciding point in the country's national narrative and evolution, as the previous two throne speeches by Elizabeth were. There is a throne speech at every new Parliament - meaning there have been 45 throne speeches in the country's history, 42 of which were delivered by Governors General. This is not just another royal visit but rather notable because the King is filling a constitutional role rather than merely meeting and greeting. The country is at an inflection point with new separatist movements rising in the West, meanwhile there is a kind of realignment apparently happening in Quebec after decades of separatism there. It is a chance to shine a light on this pivotal moment in the country's history, and there will likely be a "before" and an "after" for this historic constitutional, identitarian, and political moment-Larineso (talk) 05:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose lack of a demonstrated long term impact. (t · c) buidhe 05:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose un-elected head of state with no de facto power flies over on a tax-funded private jet for a formality and is present only due to a historical anachronism. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. IDB.S (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose simply a standard steps part of Canada's political system. Nothing unusual here. Masem (t) 12:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral, leaning oppose - There's a lot of misleading commentary about this. It's significant, and I don't want to dismiss it out of hand, but we don't generally report on, say, the State of the Union address. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2025 Liverpool parade incident

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Article: 2025 Liverpool parade incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Seventy-nine people are injured after a man drives into a crowd at a victory parade in Liverpool, England. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Significant incident which has been reported on internationally. harrz talk 17:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Medium support although no deaths, the amount of injuries is huge, nearly 100 to be exact. It also targeted soccer fans. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 20:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - If there weren’t an unfathomable number of casualties I would oppose, but the sheer number of injuries is enough to be notable. EF5 20:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Rick Derringer

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Article: Rick Derringer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American musician. Article is in rough shape, with a lot of uncited statements + a COI orange tag. The Kip (contribs) 03:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Charles Rangel

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Article: Charles Rangel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is GA – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Liverpool win English Premier League title

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Article: 2024–25 Premier League (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League title. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League, a record-equalling 20th title.
Alternative blurb II: ​ A vehicle collision occurred after Liverpool won the Premier League, a record-equalling 20th title.
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Joint record 20th title with Manchester United. I posted this as a candidate on 26th April after they won the title, however some argued that it should be posted at conclusion of the season. yorkshiresky (talk) 22:34, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. WP:ITNR states "events are generally posted as soon as a winner is determined"(emphasis mine), which isn't a hard and fast rule that we can't wait until the end of season to post the winner. –DMartin 08:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
support altblurb2 though not notable on its own, since EPL is ITNR, it's a good addition to the blurb.Sportsnut24 (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original blurb The orange tag has been addressed by Black Kite. I see no issue with posting about it now, as Liverpool's victory continues to be in the news. However, I disagree with both of the alt blurbs - alt1 sounds a little too promotional, and alt2 groups in an event that I don't think meets the ITN notability criteria (nobody died, seems like a fluke incident as opposed to political/terrorism, etc). FlipandFlopped ㋡ 19:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note Marked as ITNR. -- KTC (talk) 07:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Premier League not the English Premier League. -- KTC (talk) 07:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose alt2 as written - I have no opinion on inclusion of the incident, but it needs to be in the correct context, i.e. that it occured around / to the crowd at the trophy parade, rather than merely it happened after Liverpool won. -- KTC (talk) 07:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the original blurb - the season has just ended, so the story is still ripe (if becoming a little over-ripe). Oppose alt-2, as the ramming incident, while tragic and significant, was not so severe that we would post it independently, and it lacks a clear semantic connection to the football title. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The ramming incident has now been separately nominated at ITN above. Natg 19 (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see nothing wrong with posting now, as the Premier League season has just ended. Technically Liverpool won on 4/27 but officially they won this past weekend, and that was also when their championship parade was. Natg 19 (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 25

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RD: Harrison Ruffin Tyler

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Article: Harrison Ruffin Tyler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Grandson of John Tyler and preservationist. Engineerchange (talk) 18:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Surinamese general election

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Article: 2025 Surinamese general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Surinamese general election, the National Democratic Party (leader Jennifer Geerlings-Simons pictured) wins the most seats in the National Assembly. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Suriname, the National Democratic Party (leader Jennifer Geerlings-Simons pictured) wins the most seats in the National Assembly.
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The target article is a little bit stubby. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 02:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Phil Robertson

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Article: Phil Robertson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hill
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Reality TV star (Duck Dynasty) and conservative religious figure. Article is not in dreadful shape, but needs a few cites. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Indianapolis 500

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Article: 2025 Indianapolis 500 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motor racing, Álex Palou wins the Indianapolis 500. (Post)
News source(s): The Athletic – NYT
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article can use some work in expanding prose related to the race itself, but is otherwise solid. Casablanca 🪨(T) 00:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Peter David

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Article: Peter David (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AIPT
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Legendary comic book writer. Curbon7 (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:38, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A couple of the awards are not sourced. Masem (t) 12:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Article seems fine Cambalachero (talk) 14:22, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article is in good conditions. IDB.S (talk) 03:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Ready to post. Jusdafax (talk) 09:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Awards fixed. Should be good to go. Parabolist (talk) 21:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024–25 Basketball Euro League Winner

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Article: 2025 EuroLeague Final Four (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In basketball, the 2024–25 EuroLeague concludes with Fenerbahçe winning the Final Four Playoff, and Nigel Hayes-Davis (pictured) awarded MVP. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In basketball, Fenerbahçe wins the EuroLeague Final Four, with Nigel Hayes-Davis (pictured) awarded MVP.
News source(s): https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/en/euroleague/game-center/2024-25/as-monaco-fenerbahce-beko-istanbul/E2024/330/, https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/en/euroleague/news/final-four-mvp-nigel-hayes-davis-fenerbahce-beko-istanbul/
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Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Zafer (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, there needs to be a bolded article. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:32, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is 2025 EuroLeague Final Four, I've fixed the blurb. Black Kite (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... which hasn't even been updated, so Oppose. Black Kite (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that 2024–25 Basketball Champions League is different from this one, I would highly suggest that the section title be changed. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, done. Black Kite (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Alan Yentob

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Article: Alan Yentob (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5], [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:51, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet ready There are a few CN tags. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:08, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 24

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RD: Marcel Ophuls

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Article: Marcel Ophuls (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News, The Guardian, NYT]
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Important documentary filmmaker, Academy Award winner. Decent start-level article User:Abebenjoe talk 00:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Andrew Shaw

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Article: Andrew Shaw (television executive) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): 1news
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Needs some expansion. Article looks good after some recent expansion. Schwede66 00:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Susan Brownmiller

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Article: Susan Brownmiller (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Canberra TimesThe New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Feisty feminist author. Article is in good shape. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:21, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Cannes Film Festival

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Article: It Was Just an Accident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ It Was Just an Accident (director Jafar Panahi pictured) wins the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival. (Post)
News source(s): LA Times
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Moraljaya67 (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marked as ready. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Arsenal win the Women's Champions league

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Article: 2025 UEFA Women's Champions League final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Arsenal defeat FC Barcelona to win the UEFA Women's Champions League. (Post)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Biggest tournament in women's club soccer. If it is not ITNR, it should be. (Redacted) Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose not ITNR Scuba 04:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Read directly above you. That is not a reason. Most of what is posted is NOT ITNR.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, article quality is poor though Kowal2701 (talk) 14:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Moraljaya67, @Scu ba, @Kowal2701, @Joseph2302, and @Flipandflopped, I added a match summary and I support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Malini Fonseka

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Article: Malini Fonseka (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ada Derana The Hindu
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: One of the most prolific actresses in the history of Sri Lankan Cinema, also a former Member of Parliament (2010-2015) Titanciwiki (talk) 20:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not ready; body of the article is mostly cited, but awards and filmography are largely missing references. ForsythiaJo (talk) 21:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Michael Roemer

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Article: Michael Roemer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Acclaimed independent filmmaker who left Nazi Germany as a Jewish child refugee, went on to win awards at the Venice Film Festival. Died May 20th but announced on May 25th, lengthy obituary in the NYT Judegr03 (talk) 08:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 23

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RD: Guy Klucevsek

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Article: Guy Klucevsek (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: American accordionist and composer. Death announced 23 May. Thriley (talk) 00:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Mary K. Gaillard

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Article: Mary K. Gaillard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Berkeley
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: American theoretical physicist Grimes2 22:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support; long enough, and everything appears to be sourced. ForsythiaJo (talk) 21:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Sebastião Salgado

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Article: Sebastião Salgado (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Folha de S.Paulo, France24, BBC, Guardian, Al Jazeera, DW, AP
Credits:

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 ArionStar (talk) 15:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 22

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(Posted) RD: Alfredo Palacio

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Article: Alfredo Palacio (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Universo
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: President of Ecuador between 2005 and 2007. I've been working on the article and I think it's ready, even though some touch-ups might be necessary. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Daniel Williams

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Article: Daniel Williams (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Drummer for The Devil Wears Prada. 240F:7A:6253:1:3D98:364A:C7A6:20E8 (talk) 03:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Alasdair MacIntyre

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Article: Alasdair MacIntyre (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Nous
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Scottish-American philosopher. Death announced 22 May. Thriley (talk) 02:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Vast amounts of uncited material and little about the man versus his work. Bremps... 05:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mohammed Sinwar

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Article: Mohammed Sinwar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Wall Street Journal
Credits:

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 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The source is very clear that he was killed. "The airstrike killed Mohammed Sinwar, who was quietly buried days later, along with other top militants including Mohammad Shabana, the commander of the group's Rafah brigade, the officials said." elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The source you quoted says that it's an Israeli claim, which we should not treat as fact for obvious reasons. (t · c) buidhe 22:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The "officials" in that quote are from Hamas and from Arabic countries. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have a subscription to the WSJ, but other news sources treat it as just an Israeli claim. We should wait for Hamas to release an official statement, confirming his death. Natg 19 (talk) 23:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just three days ago, a Hamas spokeman said he was still alive: [7] Natg 19 (talk) 23:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose due to the uncertainty of whether he has actually died. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 04:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Hamas denied his death and said that he is still alive 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

support https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/28/middleeast/hamas-mohammed-sinwar-killed-netanyahu-intl Rushtheeditor (talk) 02:41, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But that's still just based on what Israel has to say. Schwede66 02:53, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chagos Archipelago agreement

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Article: Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United Kingdom transfers the Chagos Archipelago to Mauritius as part of a bilateral agreement resolving the islands' sovereignty dispute. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United Kingdom transfers sovereignty of the Chagos Archipelago to Mauritius as part of a bilateral agreement resolving the islands' sovereignty dispute.
News source(s): BBC News
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Nominator's comments: The deal has now been allowed to go ahead by the courts, and it can be considered a case of territory handover, similar to Hong Kong. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 16:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • A few issues here: 1) The nominated article hasn't changed since 15 May, so where is the updated content? 2) Didn't we post this story already, when the deal was announced last year? 3) It appears that what happened today was the formal signing, but I don't see any statement about when sovereignty will actually transfer. The BBC article linked above mentions that legislation will be required, so presumably it's a way off yet. When is the implementation due? Modest Genius talk 16:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This was nominated in Oct 2024 but not posted. It appears that this rolled off without a clear consensus, and with quality concerns. Natg 19 (talk) 17:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think this did go into effect today. CNN says "the British government has handed control of the strategically significant Chagos Islands to Mauritius". Natg 19 (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The treaty clearly says that it does not go into effect today. GN22 (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Where are you reading that it does not go into effect today? Natg 19 (talk) 17:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the text of the treaty. It says it does not immediately go into force on page 11. GN22 (talk) 18:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, you may be right. The text says This Agreement shall enter into force on the first day of the first month following the date of receipt of the later note by which the Parties notify each other that they have completed their respective internal requirements and procedures necessary for the entry into force of this Agreement, unless the Parties agree otherwise. (which would indicate June 1) However, this is in the news "today", so it is relevant now. Unfortunately, there are quality concerns (like usual). Natg 19 (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until June 1, when the agreement comes into force. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:48, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, wait until whenever the treaty actually comes into force. GN22 (talk) 05:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
wait makes sense to wait (although the counter-point is elections are posted before taking office). At any rate, mauritius is celebrating. Weird, since the new PM said he din't accept the previous agreement, especailly Diego Garcia.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2025 killing of Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. workers

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WP:SNOW. Unlikely to go anywhere. (non-admin closure) Departure– (talk) 16:25, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 killing of Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. workers (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A shooting kills two employees of the Embassy of Israel, Washington, D.C. (pictured) (Post)
News source(s): CNN,BBC
Credits:
Nominator's comments: A shooting that killed two employees of the Embassy of Israel, Washington, D.C. Spworld2 (talk) 10:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for what Amakuru said. We currently have no information regarding this being part of a terrorist plot and we do not know yet what was the exact motivation of this horrible attack. WreeperPHX (talk) 10:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Unless this spirals out into something that either rises above the typical mass shooting in the US or something extraordinary in the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, this isn't ITN-level. It's possible it might turn out that way, but at this point it hasn't. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 10:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This is tragic for those involved, but unfortunately murders by gunshot are a common occurrence in the US. The impact here is likely to be similar to the Nantes stabbing a few weeks ago (which was rejected from ITN): a short burst of media coverage but no broad or long-term impact. Modest Genius talk 11:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as per Modest. A tragedy for the families of those two individuals. But the context of this is: Gaza war. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can’t say much else (to avoid WP:NOTFORUM), other than this comment uncomfortably reads like a justification, and I’d recommend you strike it. The Kip (contribs) 13:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      You would dispute that this is the context, i.e. direct reason, why this has happened? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I would dispute that an attack on a Jewish event hosted by a Jewish museum in which the seemingly randomly-chosen victims happened to be Israeli was “contextual,” yes. I might be more inclined to agree if it was at the embassy itself. The Kip (contribs) 13:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Then we have a different perspective of what the consequences of the continued Gaza War might be. Did you want me to strike my entire !vote, or just part of it? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      The “context” remark is the problematic part in my view; it almost normalizes the idea that violence against American Jews should be expected due to the (horrifying) actions of a nation-state half the world away. I have no issue with your oppose vote, considering I also voted oppose. The Kip (contribs) 13:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Given that the suspect, Elias Rodriguez, reportedly chanted "Free, free Palestine!", I don't really see how these two things can be unconnected. I'm sorry if this means my comment reads like "a justifcation". Perhaps "context" is the wrong word. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Listing off the Palestinian death toll of the war as the context reads to me as if you’re at best slightly callously implying this attack was irrelevant/not encyclopedically notable, given the differing scales, or at worst implying it was justified entirely, given the nationality of the victims. That’s what makes me uncomfortable; if you’d simply mentioned the war might’ve motivated it/that it’s part of a greater pattern of violent incidents relating to the war, I’d feel less so. The Kip (contribs) 13:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I'd like to reiterate that I am not seeking to imply "it was justified entirely". I think it is surprising that there have been just two deaths of Jewish people like this in America when 67,877 Palestinians have reportedly been killed in Gaza. I'm sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable. For the avoidance of any further accusations of WP:FORUM, if you would like me to change the link to simply read "Gaza war", then I will do that. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      We shouldn't be politicizing in our supports or opposes at ITN or anywhere, that's the NOT FORUM issue. Trying to equate or compare these two deaths to what's happened in gaza has zero advancement of whether this should be posted at ITN, and instead drives this to be covered by arbcom sanctions if it continues that way. Masem (t) 14:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      The alleged perpetrator seems to have been trying to make a political point. It doesn't look like this was a completely random killing of people who were coincidentally Jewish, in a coincidentally Jewish location. I'm sorry if that means I am "politicizing my oppose at ITN." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I think it is surprising that there have been just two deaths of Jewish people like this in America when 67,877 Palestinians have reportedly been killed in Gaza
      With all due respect, this reads similarly to the callousness I noted in the “at best” bit. There shouldn’t be a competition, we can have sympathy for both the war’s many Palestinian victims and two Jewish murder victims.
      Changing the link would make me feel less uncomfortable, yes. The Kip (contribs) 14:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I'm not proposing a "minimum number of Jewish deaths" before any similar such incident can be posted at ITN. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC) p.s. perhaps Violent incidents in reaction to the Gaza war should be at ITN/Ongoing. Although the unanimous response to not post this one incident here may suggest not.[reply]
  • Oppose Absolutely tragic instance of antisemitic violence, but thankfully limited in scale; seconding Amakuru. The Kip (contribs) 13:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose not terrorism related, just one crazed gunman. Very unlikely to become an international incident. Masem (t) 13:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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