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Bill is signed into law by the Director of the FBI?

I'm sorry, but since when could the FBI's director sign Congress' bills into law, and I don't see the Senate passing the bill with unanimous approval anywhere, so the infobox needs some edits CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 23:11, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And most of the Senate unanimously passes the Epstein Files Transparency Act sources online have 0 views on YouTube CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 23:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

After further looking, half say the House passed the bill to the Senate, while the other half say it passed the Senate to the President's desk. No source says the bill has been signed into law, whether by the President or the FBI Director, so the infobox still needs to be updated. CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 23:30, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to refresh the page. That was IP vandalism that was reverted after 4 minutes. --mfb (talk) 23:32, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mfb Knew it, I removed it regardless. CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 23:35, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You removed an empty parameter that should become useful later. --mfb (talk) 23:36, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mfb Parameter, what even is that? I'll add it back when the time is right CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 23:38, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox is created by Template:Infobox U.S. legislation. Templates use parameters. As an example, "passedvote2 = Unanimous consent" means the parameter named "passedvote2" has the value "Unanimous consent". Your edit removed the parameter "enacted by", which had no value, so your change didn't change the appearance of the article in any way. It means people will have to look up how to use that parameter later, once the act has been signed into law (assuming that happens). Your change did nothing but adding work for someone in the future. If parameters are expected to be filled in the future, it's generally a good idea to keep them in the article (empty, if there isn't anything to display yet). I could see the argument that removing this parameter makes IP vandalism a bit harder because the IPs might not be familiar with templates. --mfb (talk) 23:46, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mfb Should I add it back ( I can if needed ), also thanks for explaining parameters. CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 23:51, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It hasn't yet passed the Senate. Even if it is clear it will. We need to wait until tomorrow. Sources are weird about it but it hasn't happened yet. Esolo5002 (talk) 02:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Esolo5002 Yes exactly, the Senate unanimously agreed to pass the bill, they did not unanimously pass the bill to the president's desk. CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 02:32, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also this page should be extended protected, to prevent IP (IP names, non-accounts) vandalism like earlier. CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 02:39, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the website Senate.gov and I don´t find on the website that the Senate voted unanimously on anything. The United States Senate has list on their website for all recent vote and this is clearly not on that list. Bjornkarateboy (talk) 16:32, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bjornkarateboy That's what I'm saying, we can't be confusing people with the infobox CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 16:34, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you Bjornkarateboy (talk) 16:42, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent vote in Senate was yesterday but they were voting on different issue and it was passed with 65 votes. Bjornkarateboy (talk) 17:00, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They voted today. The Senate website is not great [1] Esolo5002 (talk) 17:07, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also lets be clear, The President of the United States has sole power to sign legislation into laws. The president also has sole power to veto legislation but if he does so then both chambers of Congress can override the Veto with two-thirds majority. Bjornkarateboy (talk) 18:30, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bjornkarateboy I agree with you, for the FBI did not exist in 1787, so the FBI director most definitely does not have the power to sign or veto Congressional legislation. CharlesNelson1805 (talk) 19:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Senate.gov

I just checked Senate.gov one more time and I still don't find a single vote on this issue on that website. On the other hand the website mention more recent votes on different issues. Bjornkarateboy (talk) 01:53, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]