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Traditional songs of Kathmandu

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Probably not an appropriate article for that. Some of the page's content is described at Music of Nepal but I do not think that redirection or merge would suffice. Article was moved to draftspace despite one decline, and I could not find any sources describing this topic and not the music of the country in general. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 06:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Poorly written article. The title of the article doesn't match the article. Maybe Newar music? But there doesn't seem to be enough differences between Newar music and Nepalese one. I don't see any way to salvage this article. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Definitely original research and looks like a student term paper. No Wikipedia article has the author's name at the top, and this is most of that user's work WP. Everyone starts somewhere, so I encourage this person to make constructive contributions to existing articles on Nepalese music and the like. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per nom Laura240406 (talk) 17:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

LL (album)

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Not enough coverage to justify its own page; can all just be at the band's bio. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 21:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Hellp#Discography: Non-notable album from a minor band. No SIGCOV in RS. Not notable on it's own. No awards or national charting. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sofia Carson (album)

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Article was previously redirected but subsequently restored. Only additional source added since is for a small appearance on a small Billboard chart which seems perfectly ignorable to me in terms of notability. Restore the redirect as it was, as the subject is no more notable now than in 2022. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:13, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sofia Carson discography: Album not notable on it's own. The sources from E! Online and People are interviews and not independent. No SIGCOV in RS. No awards or national charting. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chokeslem

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Terribly-sourced AI-generated article with no evidence of meeting WP:NSONG. JTtheOG (talk) 21:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nope Your Too Late I Already Died

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Article fails general notability (WP:GNG) and WP:NMUSIC . The only citation that provides actual information is from KnowYourMeme. Sosumiw (talk) 17:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t think this is a professional article for Wikipedia. Also it’s only one source cited in the article. 2600:1700:4B40:8100:B101:A0EB:170B:1661 (talk) 02:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. While I know KnowYourMeme generally shouldn't be cited, I believe this is a special case as it's an editorial from the website, which means it was written by someone with the authority. Besides the fact that it's already a viral, well-known meme, the song has starting entering several charts as well, so there is potential. MC-123 (talk) 00:08, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The song entered the Billboard Hot 100 chart just last week. That shows some notability, but there's almost no SIGCOV outside streaming sites, social networks and lyrics sites, and none in RS. Maybe WP:TOOSOON — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
bro we should js keep it, or give wifiskeleton a whole new page or whatever Rhurley1012 (talk) 23:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article can of course be improved upon, and seen as there is no specific wifiskeleton article it would be nice to keep this article. It seems to be quite a large piece of his legacy and the meme surrounding it is, in my experience, quite widespread. Oscyk (talk) 00:56, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Papercut Chronicles

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Could only find a review from Gigwise (dead link via Album of the Year, found no archive for it). Would've fully expected to find more coverage for this, but came up short. Putting this to AfD in hopes that someone else has better luck. If not, redirect to Gym Class Heroes; the album is mentioned numerous times throughout the page. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Gym Class Heroes discography: Not notable on it's own. No SIGCOV in RS. No awards or national charting. Couldn't find reviews outside of user generated content. The song Cupid's Chokehold did well in the charts, but not the full album. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Swam the Waters

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The album doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ALBUM. The references used are essentially track listings. I was unable to find anything more substantial. JSFarman (talk) 00:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yet to meet notability standards like WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV and WP:NALBUM. Since, article is just created on 22 May 2025 and as per alternatives to deletion, I would like to support for Draftify. Fade258 (talk) 07:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails the requirements of WP:NALBUM, preferred option is Draftify. Dan arndt (talk) 09:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. Draftify is the preferred option Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 10:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)~~ [reply]
- Change my vote to Delete because the votes below indicate that the artist of the album does not have their own page. And even the author who created this page was once found to have used AI to write an article. Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 23:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the artists for this album doesn't even have an article. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Per WP:A9 an album article is unlikely to survive when the associated musician does not have an article. For everyone voting to draftify, the person behind this article should encouraged to work on an article for the band instead. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is one of three LLM-slop articles (written by the same editor). All of them are related to the band, and all three have hallucinatory references. (Both have been moved to draft: 8 Degrees and A Series of Moments). JSFarman (talk) 15:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The artist of the album does not have their own page, making this very unlikely to be notable. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I already commented above on the draftify process, but until that gets organized this album article should be deleted for procedural reasons (possible conflict of interest, suspicions of AI, band article should come first if they are notable). ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:54, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NALBUM. ZachH007 (talk) 22:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No SIGCOV in RS. No awards or national charting — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:22, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fast and Curious

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Fails WP:NALBUM. The album has no significant coverage, award wins/nominations, music chart history. The same goes for the songs on the album. The page's references rely on music store links (Bandcamp, iTunes, BigCartel). Other "sources" include expired links and YouTube links. There are no further sources that can be gathered to support any album sale claims, recording dates, etc. Sackkid (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Sy_Smith#2011–2015:_Fast_and_Curious ApexParagon (talk) 03:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note I think it is worth nominating the artist page for deletion too. While she has an Emmy nomination, it doesn't strengthen the article and frankly she doesn't much media coverage outside of blogs. There is a Billboard charting song but again, the page is a weak keep at best. So I am open to nominating that page for deletion as well. Sackkid (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sy Smith#2011–2015: Fast and Curious per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Just a comment in case you don't have the script installed so you can see the font is in pink, but Sy Smith is nominated for an AFD discussion. So, it might not be the best target article. Or, if you believe it should be, you might consider participating in that AFD, too to ensure it is not deleted. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above. At present the Sy Smith AfD discussion does appear to be tending towards WP:SNOW keep. ResonantDis_tortion 08:39, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sy Smith#2011–2015: Fast and Curious: Album not notable on it's own. No SIGCOV. No awards or national charting. Almost no reviews, and most are user generated or not independent. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Portrait (Mariah Carey song)

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NN song. Have changed this to a redirect to the album but edit is being reverted. Seeking consensus. TheLongTone (talk) 13:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It has charted on some music charts. Also its content can't be ignored.

Camilasdandelions (talk!) 14:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One week on a minor chart. What do you mean by'its content cannot be ignored'??TheLongTone (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's significant contents of the song's background. No reason to delete them all. Camilasdandelions (talk!) 00:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Probably redirect. From WP:NSONG: "Songs and singles are probably notable if they have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label". In the coverage, Portrait is not the subject nor is the coverage in-depth, because the articles are about the full-length album. We therefore need better "content" than that. Geschichte (talk) 15:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Caution (Mariah Carey album): per nom. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Caution (Mariah Carey album). The EP should be mention there and if sufficient sources are gathered an article of said EP can be created at a later date. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Caution (Mariah Carey album): Not notable on it's own. The album is notable, but the song isn't. Minor national charting. The sources from Variety and People are interviews and therefore not independent. Rolling Stone has comments about the song in its article. Other sources are not RS or not about the song. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moments: Red

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EP fails all ramifications of WP:NALBUM and generally fails to meet WP:GNG. A cursory search did not help at all. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:48, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A redirect to Something Clever#Discography could also suffice as an ATD.

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Redirect to Something Clever#Discography: Not notable on it's own. Some of the singles may be notable, but not the album. No SIGCOV in RS. Sources are press releases, social media, streaming sites, the band's own website, minor music magazines / blogs, doesn't talk about the EP or only mentions it. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zero Hour (Zero Hour album)

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No sources that I could find to confirm the article meeting WP:NALBUM. Most coverage of albums called "Zero Hour" is in reference to other albums with the same title. -Samoht27 (talk) 06:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Zero Hour (band) as an alternative to deletion. ✗plicit 06:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Zero Hour (band) per Explicit. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Zero Hour (band) per above as an alternative to deletion.Timur9008 (talk) 08:50, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Zero Hour (band): Non-notable on it's own — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 04:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Day (Forrest Frank song)

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Redirect to Child of God (album). Despite charting, the song is not covered in reliable sources, thus failing WP:NSONG. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 04:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There is a passing mention in a Billboard article [1] but that's about it for WP:RS. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 17:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I increased the amount of secondary sources in the article, if that's what you're requesting.
  01:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC) Javajourney (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Thanks for adding more. However, I'm not sure if most of the sources are WP:RS. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 15:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per Above Destinyokhiria (talk) 13:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since this song won a Dove Award (which would help it meet WP:NSONG criteria), I withdraw this nomination. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 17:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep song has won an award and was nominated for another two. Some sources in the article don't seem reliable. I removed a striking one. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:36, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Freaks Like You

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Subject fails WP:NSONG and there are no sources to establish WP:GNG either. There are no critical reception, chart performances, etc, none that I can find from a cursory search. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails the requirements of WP:NSONG. Dan arndt (talk) 09:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge relevant information into parent album Season of Darkness. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Croire (album)

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Album fails WP:NALBUM, a cursory search does not help either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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comment I did find this in depth review [2] but not much else and the article is pretty devoid of information. --hroest 17:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article is newly created. SRamzy (talk) 23:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Does not appear to have secondary sources to pass WP:NALBUM. m a MANÍ^{1990(talk | contribs)} 23:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found no reviews either, and without this, it fails WP:NOTINHERITED. It somewhat charted, but this is completely fine to only mention on the artist page. Geschichte (talk) 08:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NALBUM#2 appearing in at least two country charts. --hroest 14:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From NALBUM: "All articles on albums or other recordings should meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Where is the coverage? Without that, as you can see, charting doesn't help. Geschichte (talk) 10:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The charting references are to reliable sources in the music industry, which are independent of the artist. SRamzy (talk) 10:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It does not constitute "significant coverage in reliable sources". Geschichte (talk) 05:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I created the article because the album forms part of a notable artistic shift for Natasha St-Pier. The artist is one of the best known contemporary female French pop artists, known for her appearance in Eurovision Song Contest 2001, and for a string of hit albums of a strictly secular nature. Her shift to a Catholic devotional theme created considerable comment, as is reflected in the biography on the RFI website: note that this significant coverage in a reliable, independent source. SRamzy (talk) 10:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:SRamzy if this was so significant in her musical biography, there should be a couple of article that discuss this that appear in WP:RS. Could you provide any such discussions of this album in particular and add them to the article? --hroest 19:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm disconcerted by the fact that SRamzy uses such subjective reasoning in their !vote. Significant coverage has been looked for, but not found. The album fails the sigcov guideline as well as WP:NOTINHERITED. Geschichte (talk) 05:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Geschichte you want to unbold this one, since you already !voted above. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Missd that! Geschichte (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete some useful information here and there but not deep discussion regarding this album. Only a couple of interviews, which is clearly self promo, no independent third part coverage such as album reviews. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:41, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aimer c'est tout donner

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Album fails WP:NALBUM, a cursory search does not help either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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keep per WP:NALBUM#2 as this has been on the charts in at least three countries FR, CH, BE [3] reaching a top position of 23 in France. --hroest 14:47, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep The singer herself has a level of notoriety in the francophone world that probably would make even the most obscure production notable. Superboilles (talk) 07:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why says so? Other sources must decide that, not any one Wikipedia user. Geschichte (talk) 11:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: From NALBUM: "All articles on albums or other recordings should meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Where is the coverage? Geschichte (talk) 11:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect, however if reliable sources that show third part independent coverage I will reconsider the vote. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep: I found two good sources with SIGCOV (one already was on the wiki page): [4] and [5]. ProQuest has more results but I don't have full access to confirm their usefulness. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 16:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: WP:NALBUM says an album is notable if it has appeared on any country's national music chart. lescharts.com is listed in WP:GOODCHARTS as a reliable charting source. It was also certified gold in France (also a WP:NALBUM guideline). — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This article has been significantly improved since I nominated it and the editor has made it clearer on why they think NALBUM is met, and I agree with them; the gold certification coupled with the national chart (all which the article wasn't representing as of my nomination), is sufficient NALBUM pass for me. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:19, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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