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- 1993 Camp Ripley mid-air collision (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This accident whilst potentially notable has very little for an article of its own. A quick Google search lists a few potentially usable sources, however it still isn't much. This one for example looks to be passable (I am unfamiliar with the site in general however). I think the most appropriate course of action for this article would be a redirect to a relevant section of the main Camp Ripley article. 11WB (talk) 17:25, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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- The article I linked above (and the one I linked by mistake before that, which I switched) contain nothing more than passing mentions. I think this strengthens the arguments for a redirect. 11WB (talk) 17:29, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Camp Ripley: Accident without enduring coverage. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 17:32, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Military aircraft accidents are, sadly, WP:RUNOFTHEMILL. Note there is nothing at the proposed redirect target on this subject - and frankly that is appropriate, as this is an entirely non-notable occurance. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:20, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge into Camp Ripley. The target article will need a section on incidents/accidents. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 03:02, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sofia lorry deaths (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not a subject of sustained secondary coverage as required by WP:N. Fails WP:NEVENT and WP:NOTNEWS. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:34, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment The trial just started and it's still headline news in Bulgaria, so CONTINUED/sustained coverage is satisfied for now, imo. [1][2][3]. This report also has a couple paragraphs of secondary analysis of the 2023 media coverage [4], written by an university professor who specializes in Bulgarian media studies.(? working through google translate here!) Personally, I'd have waited until after the coverage of the trial ended before AfDing this, so I'm deliberately not !voting delete. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 02:33, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'd have to look closely at the PDF, though it sounds like a good start. I don't think it makes sense for a round of primary breaking news sources to be supplemented by another round of primary breaking news sources. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 03:15, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- 2013 Al Ain bus accident (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability, and high-casualty bus crashes are common. Fails WP:EVENT. Per WP:NOPAGE, this is better covered at List of traffic collisions (2000–present) or a brief mention in the history section of Al Ain if this is truly a historical event. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:34, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Can't find any coverage past February 2013, even when searching in Arabic (using combinations of ٱلْعَيْن حادث حافلة في فبراير 2013). High fatality bus accidents seem to be unfortunately common in the UAE, and I can't see anything that would set this one apart or give it a greater WP:IMPACT than the others. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 03:01, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete no WP:SUSTAINED coverage, seems like routine news coverage at the time. jolielover♥talk 06:33, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - another saddening road traffic accident :( There was more coverage than has been mentioned as there was at least one court case 1 and 2 and further coverage one year later 3 and two years later 4. There's likely more in non-English sources. Mass casualty events of this kind are highly unlikely to be non-notable. JMWt (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Full disclaimer: The National sources are locked out to me. That being said, well, it's The National. The state-owned newspaper of Abu Dhabi, described in our own article as a "mouthpiece" of the government and known for heavy censorship of their own content. They've even fired journalists who write about the UAE's human right abuses against migrant workers[5] (said journalist was soon after deported from the country). Given that this crash had the potential to impact international relations, and the victims were workers from SEA, I'm disputing this source's reliability in this topic area. Court case story is better, but there's lots of court cases every year that result in payouts being given to the families of deceased workers. I'd like to see something more than a news story from the time of the case stating that it happened. And speaking of saddening road accidents in UAE, here's [6] another mass casulty bus crash in the same neighborhood from just a few years ago. 24 people had died as of the printing of that story. Here's more from the UAE in general from just the past few years [7][8][9][10]. These are unfortunately much too common. Also looked for sources in Bengali; am unable to find any, though I also kept finding more stories about different accidents in the same neighborhood that killed Bangladeshi workers [11]. It really really sucks that these are so common but they are. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 08:04, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ok well that's all likely true but that doesn't mean that they are exaggerating about a traffic accident. Whichever way we look at it, a lot of people died and it would be a major story almost anywhere in the world.
- I'd be more comfortable if we could redirect to a List of road traffic accidents in Abu Dhabi rather than a nonsense global list, but given that it doesn't exist then for me it is still a !keep. JMWt (talk) 08:14, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Full disclaimer: The National sources are locked out to me. That being said, well, it's The National. The state-owned newspaper of Abu Dhabi, described in our own article as a "mouthpiece" of the government and known for heavy censorship of their own content. They've even fired journalists who write about the UAE's human right abuses against migrant workers[5] (said journalist was soon after deported from the country). Given that this crash had the potential to impact international relations, and the victims were workers from SEA, I'm disputing this source's reliability in this topic area. Court case story is better, but there's lots of court cases every year that result in payouts being given to the families of deceased workers. I'd like to see something more than a news story from the time of the case stating that it happened. And speaking of saddening road accidents in UAE, here's [6] another mass casulty bus crash in the same neighborhood from just a few years ago. 24 people had died as of the printing of that story. Here's more from the UAE in general from just the past few years [7][8][9][10]. These are unfortunately much too common. Also looked for sources in Bengali; am unable to find any, though I also kept finding more stories about different accidents in the same neighborhood that killed Bangladeshi workers [11]. It really really sucks that these are so common but they are. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 08:04, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- delete Yes, it was a major story at the time, and then other major stories happened and it faded into the past. Does anyone understand what "sustained coverage" means? Mangoe (talk) 22:37, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- California State Route 35 (1934–1964) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No refs on the page for many years. Not finding the RS to show it meets the notability standards for inclusion. JMWt (talk) 15:11, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Interstate 605 since this appears to have replaced it. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:46, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nyamagabe bus shooting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All the sources are from June 2022. No lasting coverage or effect to meet WP:EVENT. LibStar (talk) 10:16, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Zero coverage found about three years after the incident; news reports immediately after the attack appear to be the extent of coverage. Not a notable event. Oaktree b (talk) 13:08, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - No coverage since 2022. Koshuri (あ!) 17:01, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Notable since it was used as justification for the arrest of Paul Rusesabagina Darer101 (talk) 04:05, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- That does not make this topic notable. Koshuri (あ!) 05:31, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Just a news article without sustained secondary coverage. If it's relevant to Paul Rusesabagina, then mention it at the article Paul Rusesabagina. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:01, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- 2025 Zeusch Aviation Beechcraft King Air crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 07:22, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: Sure I understand but could you elaborate how this is any different from the other crashes i mentioned on the See also section? An exact replica of this plane crash was back in 2017 same result and same plane model; 2017 Essendon Airport Beechcraft King Air crash. As I said but I also want to hear from other experienced Wikipedian editors on what they think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megabyte21 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've provided some information about previous aviation articles below that were created very quickly, followed by a swift AfD. This one falls into the same WP:DELAY category. 11WB (talk) 16:10, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- How can you claim it is
An exact replica of this plane crash was back in 2017 same result and same plane model; 2017 Essendon Airport Beechcraft King Air crash
? The investigation has obly just begun and hasnt reached a single conclusion about probably cause. Sure there are some obvious similarities, but an encyclopedia needs to be based on facts not speculation. Dfadden (talk) 20:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: This incident likely resulted in many fatalities, probably in the double-digits and shut down a major airport. Because of that, this article is notable and it does not fall under point 4. Cyrobyte (talk) 07:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Four dead, not "double-digits". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not that it matters. Any decent closer would discard WP:BIGNUMBER arguments before determining consensus. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:28, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Four dead, not "double-digits". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify and Redirect. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TOOSOON might be worth considering here. The event literally just happened, there's no way of knowing whether or not this will have any lasting coverage or wider impact. As of right now it's a tragic accident that may, or may not, have sufficient coverage in the upcoming weeks and months to justify a standalone article. Send it to draft now for incubation, and put a redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents in the meantime. nf utvol (talk) 12:48, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment to closer. There appears to be a raft of "Keep" comments that are nothing more than votes, or do not make any policy-based arguments and are not substantially different from the examples listed in WP:ATA. nf utvol (talk) 12:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I concur with the above. Also, many of the arguments in favour of keeping are grounded entirely in recentism, which while well intentioned, seems to lack informed consideration of content policies based on existing consensus. Dfadden (talk) 13:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment to closer. There appears to be a raft of "Keep" comments that are nothing more than votes, or do not make any policy-based arguments and are not substantially different from the examples listed in WP:ATA. nf utvol (talk) 12:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: This is a very notable event as there has been significant worldwide news coverage on this aviation accident (not just on UK news). Think of the helicopter that crashed in Manhattan earlier this year. Although it was a flight with only a few passengers, it still gained significant news coverage. This one is the same as this. Prothe1st (talk) 12:53, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Almost all aviation accidents get news coverage, often worldwide especially if there are fatalities, with a burst of coverage in the immediate aftermath of the accident, and maybe another burst when the accident investigation report is issued. But Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Light aircraft crashes very rarely get any WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond that initial news cycle, and it is equally rare to see any WP:LASTING effects (such as changes to aircraft or airport procedures). The article can always be recreated if such continued coverage or lasting effects do occur. But in the meantime, this crash clearly falls under WP:EVENTCRIT#4:
Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents [...]) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance.
Rosbif73 (talk) 06:31, 15 July 2025 (UTC)- As of right now, london southend airport is still closed and will remain closed “until further notice” according to news reports. It has been two days since it’s happened and this crash clearly affects a lot of people such as those travelling or returning to/from holiday from this airport by airlines like easyjet. Also is going to cost easyjet quite a bit of money. So that is also why it further gives this event additional enduring significance to make it a notable event. Also if you read some of the other comments, you can see that someone said it’s the deadliest aviation accident in the uk since the helicopter crash in 2018 in Leicester, and also the deadliest airplane crash since the plane crash in shoreham. Prothe1st (talk) 12:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Closure of a relatively minor airport for a few days, and the associated short-term impact on passengers and airlines, are unimportant with regard to notability. Imagine yourself 10 years from now when assessing their importance. Likewise, being the deadliest accident since the last deadlier one is not in itself indicative of notability! Rosbif73 (talk) 12:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- As of right now, london southend airport is still closed and will remain closed “until further notice” according to news reports. It has been two days since it’s happened and this crash clearly affects a lot of people such as those travelling or returning to/from holiday from this airport by airlines like easyjet. Also is going to cost easyjet quite a bit of money. So that is also why it further gives this event additional enduring significance to make it a notable event. Also if you read some of the other comments, you can see that someone said it’s the deadliest aviation accident in the uk since the helicopter crash in 2018 in Leicester, and also the deadliest airplane crash since the plane crash in shoreham. Prothe1st (talk) 12:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Almost all aviation accidents get news coverage, often worldwide especially if there are fatalities, with a burst of coverage in the immediate aftermath of the accident, and maybe another burst when the accident investigation report is issued. But Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Light aircraft crashes very rarely get any WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond that initial news cycle, and it is equally rare to see any WP:LASTING effects (such as changes to aircraft or airport procedures). The article can always be recreated if such continued coverage or lasting effects do occur. But in the meantime, this crash clearly falls under WP:EVENTCRIT#4:
- Keep: Notable incident, four confirmed dead and airport closed for two days. Lots of significant news coverage. Definitely passes WP:GNG. This is Paul (talk) 13:13, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: This seems to have been moved since the afd discussion was created. This is Paul (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Unsure of the policy on this, but the article in question is now called Zeusch Aviation Flight 1. I am unable to comment on notability yet as this article was only created today and then subsequently nominated for deletion 90 minutes later. (Similar occurrences happened here, here and here). I think WP:DELAY should apply to those 3 examples and this AfD. 11WB (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- As the crash took place less than 12 hours ago, and the article name has changed, along with information being updated regularly, I have added the recentevent tag to the article to reflect this. I think this should be the case going forward for articles created so soon after the event. 11WB (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed that it should follow WP:DELAY, which says
It is recommended that editors start a section about the event within an existing article on a related topic if possible, which may later be split into its own article if the coverage suggests that the event is independently notable.
This should be a merge to London Southend Airport. An article about an event should not have its own article until there is sustained secondary coverage, which it definitely does not at this point. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:27, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
*I second this. Redirect (as the information is already there) to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents for the time being, until a clear need for a standalone article is shown.11WB (talk) 16:06, 14 July 2025 (UTC)- Having read the newer comments for keep below, I am reconsidering my vote. I think in this instance I will withdraw my vote for redirection and change it to keep based on @Harrz's point regarding this being the most deadly UK aviation accident since the 2018 Leicester helicopter crash. 11WB (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents. Light aircraft crashes are rarely notable and there are no reasons to suspect this one will be. Usual caveats apply: in the unlikely event that we do see significant sustained coverage beyond the initial news cycle, or other notability factors come to light, it would be possible to recreate an article at that time. Rosbif73 (talk) 16:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Then explain to me why you deleted it 2000 Teheran Airport collision, Red Air Flight 203, 2009 F-27 Indonesian Air Force crash, Boston Logan runway incursion, O'Hare runway incursion? Why? Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:33, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- And West Coast Airlines F-27 crash Szymondro1123 (talk) 12:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- And 748 Air Services crash Szymondro1123 (talk) 13:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Are you trying to argue that we should keep this article because other "similar" incidents have articles? WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument in a deletion discussion. Rosbif73 (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- And West Coast Airlines F-27 crash Szymondro1123 (talk) 12:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Then explain to me why you deleted it 2000 Teheran Airport collision, Red Air Flight 203, 2009 F-27 Indonesian Air Force crash, Boston Logan runway incursion, O'Hare runway incursion? Why? Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:33, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Keep: Although it may look like it isn't notable, it is since 4 people are dead, and London Southend Airport had to close for 2 days. Another thing is that the article was just recently created, give it some time!On second thought, I changed my mind. Subbie2010 (talk) 17:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)- i agree with you Szymondro1123 (talk) 13:22, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: It occurred to me that this could, or maybe should, have been created in WikiNews – but I could not find this event reported there. On balance, since this article already exists, I vote to keep – at least for now and we can revisit notability at a later date, after the accident report has been submitted. While other fatal aircraft accidents may not (yet) have their own Wiki page, I am sympathetic to having Wiki pages for such fatal aircraft accidents as a balanced and independent repository of records of such events.
- Enquire (talk) 19:31, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I do agree with you, especially since there are other similar light aircraft crashes with their own article:
- WittypediaEditor (talk) 18:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @WittypediaEditor: The existence of other articles is no reason to keep or delete this article. Take a look at WP:WHATABOUT, which covers this in more depth. Either way, in the first two articles you mentioned, they exhibited a level of sustained coverage that lends notability to their subjects. The third should probably be brought to AfD for failing to have sustained coverage (all the coverage that is referenced appears to be from the day of or day after the crash, save for the final investigation report which was released a year later). nf utvol (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: I think it is too early to decide since it just happened. It has got a lot of attention for crashing at a major airport. On the other hand, only 4 people died, and it was a smaller aircraft. I don't think anybody famous was onboard. But I am still split on whether this should get deleted or not. Zaptain United (talk) 20:30, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- The article was created rapidly. Whilst I think the accident will likely be notable eventually, at the moment it's definitely too early to rely on preliminary reporting for an entire article. 11WB (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: definitely notable - being reported worldwide, shut down an international airport indefinitely and there will definitely be lasting coverage as there is an ongoing investigation and this is the deadliest aviation accident in the UK since 2018 (Leicester), the deadliest plane crash in the UK since 2015 (Shoreham) and the deadliest commercial plane crash in the UK since 2008 or 1999 (Biggin Hill or Glasgow - not sure); some of those may be incorrect, if so I am sorry! harrz talk 00:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable enough for inclusion. Wjfox2005 (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents. No indication that this is anything other than a non-notable accident with minimal loss of life. Celjski Grad (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- okay. i'm going to go for keep 208.161.12.215 (talk) 20:46, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Incubate until after the current news spike has settled down and some actual factual information emerges about the WP:LASTING significance of this accident. There is a lot of coverage right now (plane crashes are always hot news items), but WP:EVENT requires more than this to establish notability and its a good idea to WP:DELAY to see if that threshhold will be met since wikipedia is not a crystal ball. In the meantime would support a mention in the London Southend Airport accidents and incidents section Dfadden (talk) 20:48, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- i don't know what the hell happened. keep for a while until we know what the hell happened 208.161.12.215 (talk) 20:54, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thats the complete opposite of what the policy says we should do! If we dont know what the hell happened, then we shouldnt be making articles in an encyclopedia that should be factual! Wikipedia is not a news blog! Dfadden (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia policy is The worst in world! Szymondro1123 (talk) 12:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Szymondro1123: If you find policy to be bad, then I suggest you take it to the appropriate talk page and advocate for changes. Complaining about it here is, at best, immature, and at worst, a sign that you're not here to build an encyclopedia. nf utvol (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm stays on keep Szymondro1123 (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- soon all the plane crashes will be removed if you are going in this direction Szymondro1123 (talk) 13:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm stays on keep Szymondro1123 (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Szymondro1123: If you find policy to be bad, then I suggest you take it to the appropriate talk page and advocate for changes. Complaining about it here is, at best, immature, and at worst, a sign that you're not here to build an encyclopedia. nf utvol (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia policy is The worst in world! Szymondro1123 (talk) 12:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thats the complete opposite of what the policy says we should do! If we dont know what the hell happened, then we shouldnt be making articles in an encyclopedia that should be factual! Wikipedia is not a news blog! Dfadden (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- i don't know what the hell happened. keep for a while until we know what the hell happened 208.161.12.215 (talk) 20:54, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Incubate until after the current news spike has settled down and some actual factual information emerges about the WP:LASTING significance of this accident. There is a lot of coverage right now (plane crashes are always hot news items), but WP:EVENT requires more than this to establish notability and its a good idea to WP:DELAY to see if that threshhold will be met since wikipedia is not a crystal ball. In the meantime would support a mention in the London Southend Airport accidents and incidents section Dfadden (talk) 20:48, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Osarius 22:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Significant crash, closed the airport for two days, and four dead. This is not a minor news story, it has been reported internationally; WP:NOTNEWS does not apply. Also keep per Harrz's comment about this being the most deadly UK aviation accident since 2018. Cagliost (talk) 10:21, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- The article was only recently created less than a week ago and there aren't that much citations right now but when there are more citations, it might be worth to keep this article. 2A0A:EF40:5BD:C501:A4D0:1AFF:FE05:7D0F (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Of course Szymondro1123 (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- The article was only recently created less than a week ago and there aren't that much citations right now but when there are more citations, it might be worth to keep this article. 2A0A:EF40:5BD:C501:A4D0:1AFF:FE05:7D0F (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Szymondro1123 (talk) 11:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Weak keep or Draftify An important airport closure for 2 days it’s not a normal thing on aviation accidents, but I’m still not sure about WP:LASTING (thinking about that is WP:CRYSTAL), but for right now, Im fine with a weak keep, Im going to see the coverage of this like a month later to see if it passes WP:LASTING. Protoeus(talk) 18:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)- Delete No relevant sources since a week ago, fails WP:LASTING. Protoeus (talk) 13:27, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep for now, but likely Redirect to a list later. I reviewed the Notability Essays based on the arguments presented above and it seems to me that small accidents fall close to the edge of notability. WP:EVENTCRITERIA clearly states that routine news events (including most accidents) are not notable unless something gives them enduring significance. This article, and most articles like it, don't have overt enduring significance. The reason I think that's close to the edge of notability is because I value the overall sum of accident information. I think they are notable in concert. However, my personal beliefs are insufficient criteria for keeping, and the essays seem to say that articles which are only useful in concert with other articles are more appropriately aggregated in lists. Therefore, I believe this article may as well be kept for the time being to let its significance play out, but if nothing changes it must eventually be redirected to an appropriate list. There's a lot of similar articles that need this treatment, as well. -Baltarstar (talk) 12:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- My understanding is that an article must be notable NOW in order to be kept: we can't guess today whether the subject will become notable at some point in the future. If additional factors giving an event enduring significance come to light later, a deleted article can always be recreated. Rosbif73 (talk) 13:11, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - small GA aircraft, no wikinotable people involved. This can be adequately covered at the article on London Southend Airport. Mjroots (talk) 12:10, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep this article - it's a commercial aircraft which suffered a whole loss and killed all occupants aboard. For the people saying delete, then please delete all of the incidents and accidents involving caravans etc. to keep your argument consistent. The ACFT involved is a MEA. Furthermore, its occupants consisted of both pax. and crew. Deleting this article makes no sense. I recommend strongly keeping it.
- Cheers. Captain N334AA (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's all good and well, but on what WP:POLICY are you making that argument? Are you able to provide sources that indicate sustained significant coverage of the event? If not, then why shouldn't this should be draftified until coverage exists, with a redirect to the airport's accidents and incidents page in the meantime? nf utvol (talk) 14:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents as an alternative to deletion per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT – Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:24, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
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- delete as WP:TOOSOON at the least. Mangoe (talk) 12:33, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS. No indication this event is having a lasting significance. Let'srun (talk) 15:07, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- kinda on the nuetral side for me 208.161.12.215 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to London_Southend_Airport#Accidents_and_incidents. While I don't think this airplane crash is never going to be notable (small airplane crashes aren't as common in England as they are in, say, the US), but I don't see the sources needed to indicate that this passes NEVENT in terms of impact of continued coverage. The crash is adequately covered at the airport article, and the redirect preserves the page history should more sources proving notability get published in the future.GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 23:53, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Failed WP:EVENTCRITERIA, no sign of WP:LASTING, very less coverage after that. Should be WP:DELAY as there is no evidence showing that this is a major plane crash nor a small routine accident. Also, no celebrities died in this crash.Ohok12 (talk) 14:53, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
Delete Going to maintain my posture from the first AFD, obviously fails WP:LASTING. Protoeus (talk) 15:37, 28 July 2025 (UTC)- You have already voted above. Would this not count as a second vote? (I am still new to AfD, so please correct me if I am incorrect here!) 11WB (talk) 17:10, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- There's a bit of confusion here, I think, with the fact that the AfD was closed, then re-opened & relisted. But anyways. Hey, @Protoeus, you already !voted above! GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 17:16, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thought this was a new AFD, lol. Protoeus (talk) 17:16, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- My mistake. A quick scan of WP:REOPEN doesn't confirm whether votes can be recast. I would assume that reasserting your original vote is probably fine, as long as the vote isn't bolded. I could be wrong however. If it were me, I would use '
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- My mistake. A quick scan of WP:REOPEN doesn't confirm whether votes can be recast. I would assume that reasserting your original vote is probably fine, as long as the vote isn't bolded. I could be wrong however. If it were me, I would use '
- You have already voted above. Would this not count as a second vote? (I am still new to AfD, so please correct me if I am incorrect here!) 11WB (talk) 17:10, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to London Southend Airport#Accidents and incidents: Definitely lost the privilege to have its own article, but small accidents are frequent, and this crash in particular did close London Southend Airport for a while. Although a small story, it's best to redirect it. Subbie2010 (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- If I'm going to be honest, I'd say either keep this article or delete it, but can neither confirm nor deny what the outcome will be 2A0A:EF40:5BD:C501:9091:BBF9:B5BC:CDA1 (talk) 22:49, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Asahidake Ropeway (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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PROD failed, so here goes nothing. I see no way of de-stubbing this article, because the subject isn't really notable. Sure, they may still be a part of several databooks that cover all ropeways in Japan, but I wouldn't take that as enough to justify the article's existence. There are a ton of passing mentions if I search "旭岳ロープウェイ", as the mountain seems pretty popular as a sightseeing spot. Searched "Asahidake Ropeway", I only got more travel booking service advertisements. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 15:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to Asahi-dake. It's certainly a likely search term, and there seems to be enough reliable information available for a properly cited paragraph on the Asahi-dake article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:04, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings on Public Transport) (England) Regulations 2020 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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not notable. Landpin (talk) 20:18, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. A completely unsupportable RFD that seems to have been made with no consideration of WP:BEFORE. This is one of a comprehensive series of articles covering the legal restrictions imposed on the public during the pandemic in England. Like all such regulations, the restrictions attracted considerable critical commentary at the time, and were widely covered by the press. The regulations were the basis of several thousand prosecutions, and were contentious not least because of a perceived risk of disabled people being unfairly targeted.
- Simply by typing the title into Google, it's a trivial matter to pull out multiple independent sources that discuss the regulations or their effects in detail. I found the following literally in 5 minutes, and there are many more:
- Face coverings on public transport: Parliamentary approval of Covid-19 regulations. House of Lords Library. [12]
- Update on the Coronavirus Health Protection Regulations: Implications for Children. Youth Justice Legal centre [13]
- Face coverings to become mandatory on public transport. Government announcement with background and minister's quotes. [14]
- Local Authorities Fall Foul of New Face Mask Exemption Transport Laws. Chopsey Bristol News. [15]
- Coronavirus: Widen rules on where face coverings must be used, say UK doctors. BBC. [16]
- BTP to step up enforcement of mask wearing on public transport. Police Professional. [17]
- FOI request to Transport for London, with response. [18]
- Covid-19: Thousands prosecuted over London transport mask rules. BBC. [19]
- Disabled passengers could be unfairly accused over face covering rules. Scope. [20] MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:21, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: The legalisation affected millions of people in England whilst it was in force, so it's hardly not notable. This page has also being very well written and a lot of people who are wanting to learn about the impact of COVID in the UK will also appreciate being able to understand the emergency legislation that was enforced at the time - I actually didn't know there was a formal regulation around wearing a face coverings on public transport, and I'm not intrigued to read this article in case for some reason it gets deleted, though I don't forsee it, GeekBurst (talk) 00:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - while currently there are only primary sources, for non-BLP articles, one must use the BEFORE process before nominating such an article for deletion. The article needs work, but I'm literally the only active member of WikiProject Law who is actively assessing legal articles right now. Bearian (talk) 00:41, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep if it was new I would say draft but at this point it is old and notable
- Czarking0 (talk) 06:40, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: This is not just an article transcribing some country's law. It contains regulations, history, background and other info, and therefore qualifies as encyclopedic content. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 19:35, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Notable. Evidence already presented above. S5A-0043🚎(Talk) 02:25, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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Seems like there might be sources to write a decent page, but this isn't it. It reads like a WP:PROMO for a commercial product, likely COI issues and might even have been cut&pasted from somewhere else JMWt (talk) 18:55, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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- add entry at computer-based interlocking#Brands and redirect there. Mangoe (talk) 19:06, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Draftify: Fails WP:CONTEXT and WP:PROMO per nom. No expertise in the topic, if there are enough sources to support an article, someone who knows more about the domain can fix the draft and resubmit. Caleb Stanford (talk) 21:31, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
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No evidence of sustained coverage and lasting effect. Event fails both WP:LASTING and WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE: no deep analysis or discussion on the accident occurred after it happened, and no evidence of a lasting impact (like reforms in PH transportation, reforms in the municipal government etc.) that would warrant the event inclusion as an article. This is best imported to WikiNews. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:13, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Eric talk 11:09, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Can't find any coverage past March of the accident [21] And as tragic as this was, I don't see any reason that I'd expect this to gain more media attention/pass WP:NEVENT. (Wikinews looks like it's about to end, and I don't think they'd particularly want an article on something that happened over a year ago anyway) GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 04:40, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete regrettably. Horrific, but all too common circumstances in the Philippines, or for much of the world. Motor vehicles driven by people kill people. All of the sources are over a three day period. A smerge to the town article is appropriate. Ping me if you want me to do it. Bearian (talk) 10:17, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per all above. While this was a tragic accident, road accidents like this are pretty common, not just in the Philippines but worldwide too. If we were to create individual articles for every accident that occurred, we would have thousands of new articles. AstrooKai (Talk) 11:25, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per above. While tragic, the incident didn't have any lasting notable effects --Lenticel (talk) 00:12, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per all above. It should be create this on Wikinews for my opinion. It's not meet either WP:NEVENT. ROY is WAR Talk! 05:33, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Sheppey Crossing#Incidents. Liz Read! Talk! 00:36, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
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All the coverage is from September 2013. No lasting impact or coverage to meet WP:EVENT. LibStar (talk) 00:53, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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Redirect to Sheppey Crossing#Incidents. There actually is continued coverage (See this 2015 journal article [22] and this brief mention [23], bunch of news articles up through 2025 [24][25][26][27]), but that's only going to let me add a paragraph or two to the crash article. Also, given the crash article is mostly already largely duplicative of the incidents section in the main bridge article, and with a nod to WP:NOPAGE, I think coverage of the crash works better in the main article on the bridge. That being said, if the bridge article gets too busy, then we can always spin the crash article back out at a later date, as I do think it squeaks past NEVENT. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 01:09, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sheppey Crossing#Incidents. Information is already available there. Fade258 (talk) 01:18, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per GLL/WP:NOPAGE. Can always be recreated if necessary. GoldRomean (talk) 20:58, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sheppey Crossing#Incidents: There is not sufficient information to warrant a standalone article, and a stub serves no purpose when the Sheppey Crossing page already has a dedicated section to cover incidents. GeekBurst (talk) 00:08, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
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Despite the name of this article, the topic is a short part of an expressway that flips sides. I can't find any sources on this topic that would qualify for WP:GNG. Second, there is a geographical feature with this name. But while there appear to be several scattered mentions of this pass in government documents and in hiking guides detailing trails in the area, I can find no sources that would pass GNG (and WP:SIGCOV in particular). Any useful info here can/should be merged into Interstate 8 in Arizona (edited to Interstate 8 § Yuma to Casa Grande per Liz's comment below). Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:44, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge This article has the potential to become notable with enough coverage. However, it should be merged into Interstate 8 in Arizona for the time being. WiinterU 05:10, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep This intro article was one on a series of passes with the understanding more details of the area would be added. Sadly, Wikipedia lost many of the editors that were doing such. While the pass itself is of minor interest, the surrounding area is notable enough. Thus with a little additional writing, instead of deleting, to include information around the pass - by the same name - should resolve the WP:GNG issue. Below are a few secondary examples of the area from Google. See the talk page of the article for more suggestions. Jrcrin001 (talk) 16:48, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Jrcrin001: A few points. First, this article is about the highway segment. Things nearby may be interesting, but they do not speak to the notability of this topic. Second, none of the sources you provided below (which I've placed into {{cot}} for readability) meet the requirements set out at the reliable sources and general notability guidelines. Things like personal hiking reviews, Tripadvisor, Yelp, Waze driving directions, and a local screen printing store's advertisement(?) are not reliable and do not prove notability under Wikipedia's definition. Last, I'd encourage you to collate your own comments instead of using a LLM (see WP:AITALK). Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:30, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Edit to add: it's possible that there are enough sources out there for an article on Hiking in Arizona. E.g. this speaks specifically to Yuma County, there are general books on hiking in Arizona, we already have Hiking in Connecticut, and there's several articles on individual trails in Arizona. But I'm still not seeing anything that warrants an article on this highway segment. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:36, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- So "Telegraph Pass (Arizona)" deletion discussion must only only discuss the notability of a highway pass? The popular "Telegraph Pass" hiking trail must then be ignored? The geographical issues "Telegraph Pass" must also be ignored?
By changing the focus to the name of "Telegraph Pass (Arizona)" and including the two subjects in addition to the highway pass, may make the article more interesting and notable enough? If not, then delete ALL the highway pass type articles. OR Make a suggestion to the transportation crowd to create one article for all passes along a highway route. Something like "Interstate 8 - Passes". Jrcrin001 (talk) 23:43, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- So "Telegraph Pass (Arizona)" deletion discussion must only only discuss the notability of a highway pass? The popular "Telegraph Pass" hiking trail must then be ignored? The geographical issues "Telegraph Pass" must also be ignored?
- Edit to add: it's possible that there are enough sources out there for an article on Hiking in Arizona. E.g. this speaks specifically to Yuma County, there are general books on hiking in Arizona, we already have Hiking in Connecticut, and there's several articles on individual trails in Arizona. But I'm still not seeing anything that warrants an article on this highway segment. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:36, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Jrcrin001: A few points. First, this article is about the highway segment. Things nearby may be interesting, but they do not speak to the notability of this topic. Second, none of the sources you provided below (which I've placed into {{cot}} for readability) meet the requirements set out at the reliable sources and general notability guidelines. Things like personal hiking reviews, Tripadvisor, Yelp, Waze driving directions, and a local screen printing store's advertisement(?) are not reliable and do not prove notability under Wikipedia's definition. Last, I'd encourage you to collate your own comments instead of using a LLM (see WP:AITALK). Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:30, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. Just as an aside Interstate 8 in Arizona can't be a Redirect target article because it's a Redirect not an article. Please check links before proposing an article.
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Another entry in the saga of UPE content is this German parking management company. The article seems to present only primary sources and routine coverage, and I am unsure if notability can be established to comply with WP:NCORP. MediaKyle (talk) 14:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Major company operating throughout Europe. Plenty of sourcing available. Satisfies WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:46, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Could you please elaborate on the plenty of sourcing? It doesn't seem like much of it made it in the article, I couldn't find much but press releases myself. If we have good coverage I could just slap a further reading section on there and withdraw this as long as no one votes delete before then. MediaKyle (talk) 13:13, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
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Continued disputed redirect with zero in-depth coverage, and no improvements. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:06, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport - T1 metro station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Again, continued disputed redirect with zero in-depth coverage, and no improvements. Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Stations and Maharashtra. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment, unlike some station articles this one does have at least some citations to reliable sources. Unfortunately all the ones to newspapers are about the construction and opening of the metro line, and are not about the station. The Mumbai Metro Rail Corporation Ltd citation contains good information about the lifts and escalators available and other station facilities - but the Wikipedia article makes little use of this. The one positive feature of the Wikipedia article is the infobox - with its little street map, photograph, concise information, the best case for keeping the article is the infobox.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Just a dude from earth: I have found independent sources that are just about the metro station,[28][29][30] and also one with a small but interesting mention of the station.[31] There might be a good case for keeping this article if more can be found.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The concerns regarding a perceived lack of in-depth coverage specific to the Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport - T1 metro station have been actively addressed. I have recently added a new section. This new content demonstrates the station's distinct notability, moving beyond general metro line construction news and providing dedicated, verifiable information about its function and importance within the Mumbai public transport network. As a critical gateway to one of India's busiest airports, it is highly probable that over time, the station will naturally garner increased independent media attention regarding its operations, passenger experience, and any future developments or events, further solidifying its long-term notability. Maintaining this article allows for the organic growth of verifiable information as the station continues to serve a vital role.
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- Dhalarchar railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed redirect without improvement. Zero in-depth sourcing and searches did not turn up enough to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 10:52, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- restore redirect to List of railway stations in Bangladesh#Pabna District which is the usual case for a NN station. Mangoe (talk) 14:37, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: I added some references and translations of the title of each reference. I wish that someone could also create an article about the community where the railway station is located. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:26, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect again to List of railway stations in Bangladesh#Pabna District. I appreciate Eastmain's effort to rescue the article, but the two "new" sources link to the same news articles that were already referenced. The sources do not contain significant coverage of the station per se, but could perhaps be used to develop Majhgram–Dhalarchar line. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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