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Old discussions
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- File:The Congregation of Notre Dame convent from rue Saint-Jean-Baptiste, 1684-1768..png (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
This file was marked as fair use with URAA restored copyright. But because this image was published in 1929 and URAA copyright expired, that means that it’s now in US PD and can be moved to Commons. Michalg95 (talk) 07:38, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Move to Commons per nom ApexParagon (talk) 15:59, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- That doesn't seem right. The author died in 1946. This drawing was still copyrighted in Canada in 1996; it didn't lose its copyright protection until
19471997 (the rule is the year of the creator's death + 50, not just 50 years). {{PD-URAA}} requires it to be PD by 1996. The current licensing appears to be correct. ✗plicit 00:37, 18 June 2025 (UTC)- "1947" or 1997? George Ho (talk) 00:45, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Whoops, that's what I get for rewriting my comment several times. Fixed, thanks! ✗plicit 00:49, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- In file there is date of publication 1929, which means copyright expired. 2A00:F41:2C25:2FD9:F4D7:D975:F618:470F (talk) 15:11, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Whoops, that's what I get for rewriting my comment several times. Fixed, thanks! ✗plicit 00:49, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- "1947" or 1997? George Ho (talk) 00:45, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 19:57, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Google books screenshot.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TrebleSeven (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The text is PD, descriptions are ineligible, and the icons are simple. Not sure this is above TOO JayCubby 23:08, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Where does the quote by Patrick Stewart come from? ✗plicit 00:37, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Is it still a derivative work if the text is so small you can't actually read the quote? * Pppery * it has begun... 23:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- I could blur the offending quote. Then it would definitely be PS JayCubby 15:46, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Is it still a derivative work if the text is so small you can't actually read the quote? * Pppery * it has begun... 23:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 19:57, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:David M. Heyman.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Salscipnlia (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:David M. Heyman.jpg Magog the Ogre (t • c) 02:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Pending Commons discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:19, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Assuming c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:David M. Heyman.jpg is kept. Buffs (talk) 16:24, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: pending DR at Commons.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 19:58, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:JohnHymers.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Utternutter (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:JohnHymers.jpg Magog the Ogre (t • c) 02:28, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Tweed Run London 2013.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Colonel Warden (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
"Feel free to use the image at will" is probably not legally sound enough to warrant us marking this in the public domain. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 20:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
The objection seems unreasonable - the probability that the author intended the material to be private seems neglible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stripe999 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:N.F.-Board logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kxeon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I just found that File:Logo N.F.-Board.png exists on Wikicommons, uploaded by Jean Luc-Kit himself in 2020. So that means if we use that instead of this SVG version, we know there's not a copyright violation here. However, whether or not this complies with WP:NFCC§1:
Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose.
may be uncertain, and may need to be discussed. The reason that is so, is because of WP:NFC§Multiple restrictions:
For a vector image (i.e. SVG) of a non-free logo or other design, US law is not clear as to whether the vectorisation of the logo has its own copyright which exists in addition to any copyright on the actual logo. To avoid this uncertainty, editors who upload vector images of non-free logos should use a vector image that was produced by the copyright holder of the logo and should not use a vector image from a site such as seeklogo.com or Brands of the World where the vectorisation of a logo may have been done without authorization from the logo's copyright holder. If an editor bases a vectorisation they did by themself from a free image, they should indicate the source image so that freeness can be confirmed, and release their contribution (the labour of converting to vectors) under a free license to help with the aforementioned ambiguity.
So should it be deleted in accordance with this, to avoid any uncertainty; or should it acquire the copyright of the version uploaded by Kit, and continue to be used here? wikipedia-kxeon mailbox 18:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I see no reason the .png file shouldn't be used in lieu of a lower res .svg Buffs (talk) 20:58, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- It's a vectorisation of a image that is, in most circumstances only available in PNG/JPG form, and of really low resolution. I ended up getting caught up in other things so I couldn't respond until 23:00; but if need be, this SVG could be edited to basically copy the PNG that Kit uploaded, and could, possibly, inherently be called a superior version to the PNG version of which Kit had uploaded. wikipedia-kxeon mailbox 03:57, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- The point is that this is a derivative work. It cannot obtain new copyright without substantial changes. It is not labeled correctly. Buffs (talk) 16:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- It's a vectorisation of a image that is, in most circumstances only available in PNG/JPG form, and of really low resolution. I ended up getting caught up in other things so I couldn't respond until 23:00; but if need be, this SVG could be edited to basically copy the PNG that Kit uploaded, and could, possibly, inherently be called a superior version to the PNG version of which Kit had uploaded. wikipedia-kxeon mailbox 03:57, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- The article is using 2 non-free images, and thus violating WP:NFCC#3- minimal number of non-free items. Either File:N.F.-Board logo.svg or File:NF-Board.png (the non-free version on en.Wikipedia) must therefore be removed and deleted to comply with NFCC. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this upload, it appears the images are mislabeled and are not non-free. Buffs (talk) 16:43, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
Emailed the N.F.-Board to ask about the copyright status on Wikicommons. wikipedia-kxeon mailbox 22:01, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Kxeon: Did you get a response? * Pppery * it has begun... 18:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem like they responded to my mail about the copyright status of the logo:
Vouliez-vous dire de télécharger votre logo sur Wikicommons sous la licence CC BY-SA 4.0 ? Les termes de la licence sont au bas de cet e-mail.
Discussion sur Wikicommons à propos des fichiers : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2025_June_19#File:N.F.-Board_logo.svg
I then went on to paste the entire CC BY-SA 4.0 license into the email...
- Drats. Worth a shot though, no? kxeon talk 19:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
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Discussions approaching conclusion
[edit]Discussions with at least 6 full days since nomination. After 7 days, they may be closed.
July 6
[edit]- File:End of subathon.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PerfectSoundWhatever (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
There is lots of images of Ludwig on Wikicommons, so this one is unnecessary. Sahaib (talk) 11:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom, fan content that isn't necessary to understand the article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep not replaceable by free content since the image specifically shows the stream, not Ludwig himself. (NFC criterion #1). Same idea behind keeping the cover images for movies, TV shows, etc., this is a singular image that concisely and uniquely represents the subathon. As well, images of that section of the stream are commonly used to represent the stream (it was the end, see google images). — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 19:01, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Whpq (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 18:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Beyoncé - NRG Stadium - June 29, 2025.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by BeyonceKnowlesFan123473 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Copyright violation with a misleading permission claim. There is no indication in the file source provided this is a free image. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- UPDATE: this already got speedy-deleted, so feel free to close the nomination early. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Recent nominations
[edit]July 7
[edit]- File:Magic Jolin alt cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nkon21 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The article's infobox already has the official album cover, so it may violate WP:NFCC#3a. Leehsiao (talk) 06:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Poppinsfirst4.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mavarin (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Is the image showing side portion of Mary Poppin books still eligible for copyright? One editor thought didn't think so a few years back. Nonetheless, I'm still uncertain due to drawings of the titular character in two of the books, so I recently changed back the copyright status and am bringing this here. Should be kept as unfree if no objections, IMO. George Ho (talk) 23:08, 7 July 2025 (UTC); corrected, 17:53, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
July 8
[edit]- File:Logo of the North Carolina Department of Labor.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DiscoA340 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Fails WP:NFCC#8: NCDOL and North Carolina Commissioner of Labor are not the same entity. The article using this non-free logo is about the latter, thus the omission of this logo would not be detrimental to understanding of the article. Wcam (talk) 14:30, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Racing Charleroi Couillet Fleurus logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Trlkly (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Former logo which does not significantly enhance the article, so fails WP:NFCC#8. Also fails WP:NFCC#3- minimal number of non-free images in article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- yeah, as nice as the logo is, there doesn't seem to be any discussion of it as the old logo. — trlkly 19:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
July 9
[edit]- File:Iggy Azalea - Fancy featuring Charli XCX (Sample).ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by HĐ (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
There is no justification per requirements of WP:NFCC. The sample isn't used to aid in the discussion of portions or components of the song which are subject to critical commentary. Its omission does nothing to harm the understanding of the topic in the article. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:42, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The article discusses the song's beat and its components. hinnk (talk) 22:57, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 04:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Ariana Grande - Problem (10th Anniversary Cover).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Camilasdandelions (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Limited edition vinyl cover to celebrate 10th anniversary of the single. The re-release did not receive extensive coverage and was not subject to critical coverage. The inclusion of this cover is not paramount to the topic and thus fails WP:NFCC/. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: You're trying to remove all the files that related with Azalea, but anyway this single is replaced to that cover, so not fails.
- Camilasdandelions (talk!) 00:42, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Sricsi (talk) 15:29, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:IggyAzaleaBlackWidowSample.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WikiRedactor (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The rational and usage of the sample appears to be solely to portray the lyrics of the song. The section where the sample is used is not subject to critical coverage. Its exclusion does not harm the topic of the article and therefore WP:NFCC is not met. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:50, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Would've been better to use an excerpt that captured the drop at the end of this, but there's discussion in the article of the build in this section, the instrumentation, the way Rita Ora sings, and the similarities to "Dark Horse". hinnk (talk) 23:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 04:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Jennifer Lopez - Booty (Remix featuring Iggy Azalea).ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by HĐ (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The portion of the song is not supporting critical commentary about elements of the song. The only justification appears to be that this is about the remix but elements of the song are not discussed and therefore WP:NFCC is not met >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:53, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep : The Iggy Azalea version was released as single, we should have its cover art in the article. Sricsi (talk) 05:43, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 04:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
July 10
[edit]- File:Police Jury, Assumption Parish, 9 August 2023.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rjjiii (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I don't believe this file meets the NFCC - specifically, the following:
- NFCC 1: No free equivalent. Unless photography/video recording is prohibited at all police jury meetings in Louisiana parishes, then a free equivalent could reasonably be contributed by someone who lives there, visits a meeting, and takes a photograph. Even if photography is prohibited by law, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that under freedom of information a photograph may be free.
- NFCC 8 - contextual significance. A simple textual description of "these are similar to county boards in other states" would suffice, perhaps with an image of one of those boards if no free image of a police jury can be found. And even if it's considered contextually significant, a free image of a similar board from outside Louisiana (of which there are many), would suffice with a short text description of any differences (of which there are few).
Per WP:NFCC I'm bringing it to FFD for discussion to be deleted as not meeting the above criteria. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete there is no reason why a free image of one of these meetings cannot be taken. Traumnovelle (talk) 23:35, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:AzTV Logo 2019.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ilhamnobi (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
the actual logo resides on File:Azərbaycan Televiziya logo (2).png, whose genuinity can be checked via the website of aztv :3 əkrəm. 18:41, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Move to Commons assuming it is below the threshold of originality. Traumnovelle (talk) 23:33, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Clearly {{PD-textlogo}}. Jonteemil (talk) 00:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:National Front.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Durova (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Fails NFCC#8 and isn't the subject of commentary within the article (National Rally's stance on immigration is, but this does not require the image to explain) Traumnovelle (talk) 23:31, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
July 11
[edit]- File:Wimbledon Poster 2025.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PrinceofPunjab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Should be replaceable with the (non-free) official logo (this JayCubby 15:50, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:2024 NBA playoffs logo.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Timd21 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Same as File:2022 NBA playoffs logo.jpg. Delete per WP:NFC#UUI14. Jonteemil (talk) 22:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:CollinsPoloField.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Libro0 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Fails WP:NFCCP#8. It doesn't significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission wouldn't be detrimental to that understanding. Jonteemil (talk) 22:09, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- If it fails NFCC#8 then pretty much ALL articles that show the venue location of an event fail as well. That argument simply says that NO event article increases the readers' understanding of the topic. Consequently, Collins Polo Field is an extremely notable venue when when it comes to the subject matter's history. That much should be clear since it was a venue that hosted decades of national level tournaments among other things. The photo clearly illustrates how and why it was a highly desired location for these events. Libro0 (talk) 01:36, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've never seen a non-free photo of a venue before. I think oftentimes when a photo of a venue is placed in an article, the photo is free, not non-free. However, I now see that, despite there being fair use rationales, the file actually has a free license. Did you take the photo yourself and have the right to license it? In that case just remove all the fair use rationales and replace them with {{Information}} and this can be closed. Jonteemil (talk) 10:47, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I was instructed by the chat forum to use the fair use rationales in order to use it in additional articles but I can certainly replace them with {{Information}}. Libro0 (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've never seen a non-free photo of a venue before. I think oftentimes when a photo of a venue is placed in an article, the photo is free, not non-free. However, I now see that, despite there being fair use rationales, the file actually has a free license. Did you take the photo yourself and have the right to license it? In that case just remove all the fair use rationales and replace them with {{Information}} and this can be closed. Jonteemil (talk) 10:47, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
July 12
[edit]- File:Rutgers University seal.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TjBison (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Either, if deemed below c:COM:TOO US, replace the first FUR with {{Information}}, remove all other FURs and relicense file as {{PD-textlogo}}, or, if deemed above c:COM:TOO US, keep the FUR with Rutgers University and remove the other ones per WP:NFC#UUI17. Jonteemil (talk) 00:51, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
July 13
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