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The result was delete‎. Goldsztajn (talk) 23:03, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aghamohammad Garden House (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely and utterly fails the notability requirement for places (Wikipedia:Notability (places)). Almost no info about it anywhere under the name listed on Wikipedia. Removing the word garden gets some more sites, but still no outside coverage by any notable sites. The whole article is also blatantly promotional. Gaismagorm (talk) 18:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails notability. Procyon117 (talk) 13:19, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 03:41, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Occupancy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not a dictionary. Qwirkle (talk) 01:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, but no prejudice to draftify. When I initially saw the page, I thought that it could be kept. Turned out it is primarily about the word "occupancy" rather than about the concept of occupancy, especially with the section "other meanings". But I think it has the potential to be a better article, it just needs time.
Dr. Hyde, muahahaha jekyllthefabulous (speak, or you shall die) 05:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was working on a draft about the concept of vacant buildings (they have a lot of unique challenges like abandonment, squatting, reuse, pest control) that I was probably going to include in this article instead. Usually we don't delete articles just because they're bad but have the potential to be better (there's WP:TNT but I don't think it's at that level of unsaveable). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:14, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. No deletion rationale provided here or support for a deletion of this article. Liz Read! Talk! 22:06, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Margarida Fleming (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Neutral. As the original author of the article I do not accept suggestions that the article is inaccurate. To the best of my knowledge the complainant has not provided any examples of inaccuracies. Further, there are a large number of citations given. The fact that these sources are freely available rather challenges the complainant's request for privacy. I probably prepared the article after seeing a list of the "Top Ten Most Inspiring Portuguese Women",[1] which to me does not suggest a lack of notability, although I would agree that the subject, despite the quality of her work, is not in the first rank of Portuguese artists and her inclusion on Wikipedia cannot be considered essential. Roundtheworld (talk) 17:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Top 10 Most Inspiring Portuguese Women". Discover Walks. Retrieved 21 April 2025.
  • Question: Of the fourteen sources currently in the article, which one(s) are not blogs, user-submitted content, sales sites or primary sources? In other words, which are secondary reliable sources that are fully independent from the person? Netherzone (talk) 23:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question 2: OK, I'm confused. The nominator, Roundtheworld, who started this AfD says they are the original author, but are neutral about deletion. However the article history says that the editor, Umdiadepois, nominated the article for deletion according to their user contributions,[1] and they claim to be the the subject of the article, although there is no proof of that. Roundtheworld could you, when you find a moment, please explain what's going on, I'm confused. Thank you, Netherzone (talk) 23:27, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, I did not start the AFD. I responded to a notification that the page had been started. Umdiadepois had previously made lots of large deletions, which were reverted by others. I am reasonably satisfied that she is the subject of the article. Her first revert stated "Hello, I am the subject of this article. Some of the information is outdated and does not accurately reflect my current trajectory. I would like the article to be simplified, as I prefer to keep my personal and professional information on my official website. I kindly request the removal of excessive details and a more neutral, concise version of the article. Thank you for your time and consideration." Roundtheworld (talk) 09:49, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for explaining, now I understand. Umdiadepois may well be the subject, however, because this is a BLP, I think there is a procedure that has to occur to prove that they are who they say they are. If I'm not mistaken, they need to file an email ticket with WP:VRT that gets reviewed by a team member and assigned a number. I'm pinging @Star Mississippi for her guidance. (BTW, I have no opinion on Fleming's notability at this time.) Netherzone (talk) 13:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Netherzone for the ping. NZ, @Roundtheworld while that's the best route if Fleming wants to edit the article or under their name, it's not mandatory for us to consider this deletion discussion. They're welcome to open the discussion or weigh in and if they have specific privacy concerns about material, they should reach out to VRT/OTRS. No comment on notability as I haven't had a chance to dive in and it's late here @Justlettersandnumbers @Barkeep49 is there anything we're missing here? Star Mississippi 03:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think participants in this discussion, including any closer(s), are welcome to consider how to weight the request from an unverified account for purposes of Wikipedia:BLPREQUESTDELETE. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:40, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Fleming appears to be notable enough based on coverage in Portuguese arts media. No nomination rationale is given here in this discussion page, but when Umdiadepois edited the page to place the AFD nomination, the edit summary was Nominating article for deletion – subject requests removal due to privacy, inaccuracy, and lack of notability. Umdiadepois has, in a prior edit summary, claimed to be Margarida Fleming. However, I don't believe Wikipedia is in the practice of removing articles simply based on the subject's request. As far as I can tell, there is nothing in the article that is derogatory or negative in any way, and even if there were, we could edit the article to correct that without deletion. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:03, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Robust consensus that as an NRHP contributing property it is a notable subject. Any necessary cleanup and improvements can be handled editorially. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Carter-Newton House (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article seems to function as an extended family history related to the Carter-Newton House, rather than an encyclopedic entry about a notable subject. It suffers from a near-complete lack of reliable, independent sources, making the vast majority of its content unverifiable (WP:V) and potentially original research (WP:OR) by a user whose name implies a relation to the owners. Article fails to establish the notability (WP:N) of the house, appearing more like a genealogical record (WP:NOTGENEALOGY). — Arcaist (contr—talk) 13:05, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. With thanks to the editors who managed to sort out the mess. asilvering (talk) 02:21, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stefanos Sinos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Deprodded without improvement. Current sourcing does not show notability, and searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show they pass WP:GNG, and with a high citation count of a whopping 11, and not seeming to meet any of the other criteria, does not meet WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 TT me 22:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I would think that Sinos could qualify for NProf via criteron 1, has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, with the books that I am seeing published. I don't know how citation counters work but from what I know I think they tend to focus on papers instead of books? (please correct my misunderstandings). And following from Cl3phact0's research above. Moritoriko (talk) 04:00, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Citation numbers apply to books also. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]
I agree that the case for NPROF appears fairly strong. Also, in addition to the Mystras book (and the several decades of work it documents), his book on pre-modern architecture looks as if may be a standard university textbook on the subject (according to the publisher, it was reprinted as recently as 2023). I haven't yet looked for more about the older publications, as I'd rather prefer to spend my time on other articles until the outcome of this AfD has been decided. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 06:41, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. The list of publications appears to indicate notability in the fields of archaeology and architecture. Is there any reason why they shouldn't? P Aculeius (talk) 15:08, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Not that I can see. However, I will say, in deference to the original nom, that it was (is) exceedingly difficult to make sense of or even decode the relevant references and citations, most of which were literally in Greek at the outset of this process. Sinos's notability was very much obscured by this fact (as well as the messy data at Wikidata – now somewhat rectified). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Foresters House (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about an office building, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for office buildings. As always, buildings are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on reliable source coverage and analysis of their architectural, historical, social or cultural significance -- but this doesn't make any meaningful notability claim over and above existing, and is referenced almost entirely to primary sources that aren't support for notability. The only reliable source present here at all is an insurance industry trade magazine, which is here solely to tangentially verify the name of the company's CEO rather than supporting any information about the building in its own right.
Since it's the headquarters of a company that does have an article under WP:CORP terms, any information we need about its head office can easily be contained in the company's article -- but in order to qualify for its own standalone article as a separate topic from the company, it would need a much stronger notability claim, and much better sourcing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 19:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete  : Not a listed heritage building, so no listing there to help. I don't see news articles about this place, appears to be just another high rise in Toronto. No real sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 00:04, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
put the wrong address in, it's listed under Part IV of the Ontario Heritage Act. [3], but that's not enough for sourcing. Let's see what else we can find. Oaktree b (talk) 00:07, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lengthy heritage study attached to the by-law [4]. Coverage here [5], column down on the left, suggests there is coverage of this in a book about the architect. Oaktree b (talk) 00:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. The "keeps" are unsubstantiated by evidence in this AfD - if !voters find sources that conclusively demonstrate SIGCOV, they need to be provided here. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:35, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stanley Shaftel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Can't find enough in-depth coverage from independent sources to show they pass GNG. The two obits are paid spots. Onel5969 TT me 13:47, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per David Eppstein, and own search. did not find significant coverage to establish GNG or NCREATIVE. Would be helpful if keep !voters could link some of the coverage they allude to. Eddie891 Talk Work 08:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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