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Whack!
You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Worldbruce (talk) 15:01, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What is this trout? Richmond777 (talk) 13:27, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Future use

Notes to self

Raymond Howell - needs an article
John Bryson Crichton-Stuart, 8th Marquess of Bute - needs an article, [4]
Salisbury Cathedral - needs more work.
Winscombe Hall - needs an article.
Do NOT do DYK
Arne Maynard - warrants an article. Sources? So beautiful
~~Register of Historic Parks and Gardens of Special Historic Interest in England~~

~~North East / North West / Yorkshire and the Humber / West Midlands / East Midlands / East / South West / South East - gone through~~

~~Greater London - almost complete already~~

Victoria Embankment Gardens - needs work.
GAs - Hearst Castle / Monmouthshire / Monmouth School / Penrhyn Castle / Powis Castle / Chartwell (then FA) / Monnow Bridge (then FA) - helpful tool

All Saints' Church, Runcorn

Happy New Year! Many thanks for the trouble you have taken to get this article back to its proper state. I should have deleted the uncited bells section when it appeared, but it was written in good faith and I let it go. I should have taken the action you took but was too lazy/too involved in the North Yorkshire lists. Always grateful for your support. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:22, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Peter I. Vardy - Peter, good to hear from you and all best wishes for 2026. North Yorkshire's a huge job, so the distraction was very understandable! Hopefully, the tweaks, which didn't take long, will address the GAR concerns. KJP1 (talk) 09:48, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for reverting?

Could you explain the reason for this, please? Deb (talk) 12:39, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Forget that, I see you've already restored it! :-) Deb (talk) 12:40, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Deb - Sorry, fat fingers! Immediately reverted myself, but apologies. KJP1 (talk) 12:40, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Anniversary KJP1 🎉

Hey @KJP1. Your wiki edit anniversary is today, marking 19 years of dedicated contributions to English Wikipedia. Your passion for sharing knowledge and your remarkable contributions have not only enriched the project, but also inspired countless others to contribute. Thank you for your amazing contributions. Wishing you many more wonderful years ahead in the Wiki journey and a blessed New Year. :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ ✉ 17:13, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Irving House

The image, duly spruced up at the Graphics Lab, is at File:Henry-Irving-birthplace.jpg

Tim riley talk 08:57, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent - many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 10:30, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Grade II* listed buildings in Greater Manchester

Hi KJP1, hope you're well, and Happy New Year. I thought you might like to know that, as of this afternoon, the above list now has articles for all 241 entries — it's been a bit of a personal mission! I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts, and whether you think it's in a complete-enough state to be considered for a Featured Article nomination (or if the the lack of some photos etc would be an issue). Best regards. Mmberney (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Mmberney - First off, congratulations! I have indeed been watching your work with interest, and you've done a fantastic job of covering off the 241 GM entries. I actually think efforts like this have to be a bit of a "personal mission", otherwise they never get done. As to whether it's FLC material, I'm absolutely sure it is. The absence of a few images is certainly not a bar to this. The criteria even allow for a "small" number of redlinks - but you've avoided that by your hard graft. A few other immediate thoughts:

Lead - this is strong, well-written and informative. Weak leads can be a problem.
Absence of Redlinks - this is key but, as noted above, you've addressed it.
Entry ordering - This can be a bit of a mare's nest. I think you've gone for age, and had discussion with Dave D and Peter V about it. It's an approach that has a complete logic, and stands up as well as any other. My only bugbear is I do like to group related structures. If you're covering a large estate that may have a dozen or more listed structures on it, for me I think it helps the reader if they are grouped. But beyond Heaton Park, I'm not sure there are many in GM that meet this description.
It doesn't have a Notes section. To be absolutely clear, this is not an FLC criterion, but I've come to favour them over time. In my earlier efforts, they were little more than location descriptions, but now I try to put a little more flesh on the bones, e.g. this. But they are a significant additional effort, I still have yet to finish all of those for the Oxford colleges, and they aren't a requirement.

Should you try FLC, and you should, do ping me and I shall be very pleased to review. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:54, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. On the missing images, I'm sure you already know this, but Geograph Britain and Ireland can come up trumps when Commons fails. So, I'm assured, can Flikr but as I'm a social media dinosaur, I've never tried. KJP1 (talk) 18:01, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciate the useful guidance on what's typically looked for in FLCs, KJP1. I'll have a ponder about a Notes section; you're right that it wouldn't be a particularly small endeavour, but I'm a sucker for consistency! I hadn't seen a list of graded buildings with that column included before, and the Grade I list for Greater Manchester is missing it as well. I shall certainly have a look at Geograph to see about closing the imagery gaps (I'm assuming in that case that it's acceptable to use those image links if there isn't anything on Commons? Or is there a procedure one must follow?). Thanks again. Mmberney (talk) 18:21, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Mmberney - You’re quite right on the Notes, the great majority of the listed building lists don’t have them. So, if it’s consistency you’re after, leave them out! In terms of the Featured lists on listed buildings it’s a bit more 50/50, Wikipedia:Featured lists. And Castles in Greater Manchester and Scheduled monuments in Greater Manchester, each an FL, both have detailed notes. It really depends on who was the main author.

As to Geograph images there is indeed a pretty simple process that lets you upload them to Commons, and then just use them as required. It’s automated - give me a shout if you need any help. KJP1 (talk) 21:21, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Morning KJP1, I didn't have much luck on Geograph finding those few remaining missing images, unfortunately. After a few further tweaks and some citation additions/archiving, I've just nominated the list as an FLC, so fingers crossed! Mmberney (talk) 08:00, 7 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

January music

happy new year! - inviting you to check out "my" story (fun listen today, full of surprises), music (and memory), and places (pictured by me: the latest uploads) any day! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 10 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GAR Barnstar

		The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
		For Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/All Saints' Church, Runcorn/1. TompaDompa (talk) 17:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Tredegar Estates Office

Hi @KJP1. I've recently started a draft for the former Tredegar Estates Office. If there's anything you'd like to add, please do! Mac Edmunds (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. I shall see if the late lamented John Newman had anything to say. KJP1 (talk) 21:14, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I was thinking along the lines of Newman; I don't have a copy of his book. I've just been notified that the article has already been approved for creation – crikey, that was quick! Mac Edmunds (talk) 21:25, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It’s great that it’s been approved so quickly. It’s a good article. The process can sometimes be a bit slow but, as with everything else here, we’re all volunteering our time.

I shall see what else I can find. Generally the Pevsner will say something for listed buildings. Newman’s Gwent/Monmouthshire and Glamorgan are VERY good investments. Sir Nik thought his Kent volumes were the best of the lot. They are really quite pricey now, but some of the internet second-hand sites can turn up some bargains. KJP1 (talk) 21:37, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that – noted, I'll have a look. I find that equally people on internet second-hand sites can try their luck. I've seen a few copies of Roger Phillips' book on Tredegar listed for hundreds of pounds... I wonder who falls for those? Mac Edmunds (talk) 21:57, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You’re absolutely right. There are chancers out there, as everywhere. Including Wikipedia! But I’ve just had a quick look and have found both Newmans for little over £10 each. That’s very good value. KJP1 (talk) 22:09, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your edits on the TEO page. Much obliged. "Like a little late 17th century country house" is a very good observation. It has some styling cues similar to Tredegar House, I'm sure intentional. Mac Edmunds (talk) 11:28, 17 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I think it also bears some similarity to Trewyn House, a genuine, smaller, late-17th century gentry house. Habershon and Fawckner could turn out almost any style the client favoured. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 11:36, 17 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

A stroke of luck: the library at Newport Museum (my local) stocks a copy of Newman's Gwent/Monmouthshire volume! It also happens to stock its Powys counterpart, Powys: Montgomeryshire, Radnorshire, Breconshire by Richard Haslam, which will come in useful on my recently published Boughrood Castle page, the birthplace of John Morgan. Mac Edmunds (talk) 17:31, 21 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That’s great. Both are mines of information. It’s a long time since I went through the doors of Newport Library. KJP1 (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Avis Gurney–Compton Mackenzie letters

Hi @KJP1. I went to Gwent Archives today to view the letters from Compton Mackenzie to Avis Gurney, latter sister of John Morgan, which they hold. Annoyingly, Monty, as he signs himself, has terribly cursive and cryptic handwriting, so I was wondering if you're any good at deciphering such writing? I've done my best, cross-examining the letters' brief corresponding summaries on the GA website, but have only managed to string a few, very small pieces together. The letters I photographed are of February 1941, in which Monty describes how SS Politician had run aground near his home on the Hebridean island of Eriskay, carrying thousands of bottles of whiskey (the inspiration for Whiskey Galore), and references John Morgan's army posting in Colchester; of August 1950, in which he thanks Avis for "lunch at Tredegar"; and of August 1954, in which he offers his condolences on the passing of her father, Frederic Morgan. As I say, if you think it's something you'd be able to help with, I can email the photos over to you. And thanks for the Pevnser scans – now added to the Gattonside page. Mac Edmunds (talk) 19:51, 12 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to take a look, but deciphering cryptic handwriting isn’t my forte and time is currently rather short. But email them over. KJP1 (talk) 21:45, 12 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave a comment here, as to not clutter your talk page with any more of my topics. Took some pictures of Plas Machen today, with the kind permission of the owner; he tells me of around 13 years. That's the two on my radar ticked off!... the Machen Houses. Mac Edmunds (talk) 22:16, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What a beautiful old house. KJP1 (talk) 23:16, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Proverbial nail hit. :-) Mac Edmunds (talk) 23:57, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing here again, as to keep my messages in one place, I just read your article on the Monument to Sir Briggs... nicely done. Was interested to hear that John donated the de Prades painting to the NAM in 1961. Seemingly quite a randomly timed donation, as I don't know that he made any others in his lifetime, except from those he left with the Sisters at Tredegar. Anyway, thanks again. Mac Edmunds (talk) 22:29, 25 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you liked Sir Briggs. Now, an apology. I have tried repeatedly to decipher Mackenzie's hardwriting, but I just can't. Like you, the best I can do is pick out the odd word. How Avis Gurney managed, I've no idea. Sorry. As to the de Prades, my guess would be it was due to Tredegar's Army connection. His period as a serving officer does appear to have been the only career he had. KJP1 (talk) 12:28, 5 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No apology needed. Thanks for looking. How Avis managed — that’s exactly what I wondered sat in Gwent Archives, staring at Monty’s hieroglyphics. I got little further than the odd word myself. I assume from the brief summary of each letter on their website, someone at GA is adequate at deciphering the writing. Army connection makes sense. Certainly did not have any other career. Although, was engaged in writing a novel 1932–33. All traces of it dry up from then on. Mac Edmunds (talk) 13:41, 5 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of 2, Wildwood Terrace

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This is just an article about Pevsner; the house is not notable just because he lived in it. Per WP:NBUILD: Buildings, including private residences, transportation facilities and commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability.

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I've contested the prod. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. I’ll respond at the AfD. KJP1 (talk) 06:01, 8 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

And have now done so, here. KJP1 (talk) 08:43, 8 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Institute for East West Strategic Studies for deletion

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Legislate1754 (talk) 09:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Annual RPI and Average Earnings for Britain citation

Hi KJP1. You added this citation to the John Morgan page when getting it over AFC, and I have added it to subsequent pages since. Do you know whether the conversion updates in realtime with inflation? I ask this as I was planning to change conversion footnotes on the assumption that, being the equivalent "as of 2023", they are now somewhat outdated. But when I went to do this, a lot of the conversions looked unfamiliar, which made me wonder whether they automatically update? Many thanks. Mac Edmunds (talk) 21:44, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Yes, it updates at some point, once the maths and coding is sorted, but I’m not sure of when that happens (it’s based on data from third party sources, so is outside our control). - SchroCat (talk) 06:26, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I was going to ask you as, although I assumed it did, I didn’t know. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 06:52, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat… thank you. Mac Edmunds (talk) 07:39, 25 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Tredegar House architecture

Hi KJP1 – hope all is well with you. I remember you telling me a while ago that at some point you intend to expand the architecture section on the TH page. Today, I came across a timeline of the building alterations to the house (and indeed stabling, orangery, gardens, etc.) which was emailed to me some years ago when I started volunteering at Tredegar. Frankly, I'm not sure who it's written by – it's an unattributed PDF. But, it has very extensive and very detailed of alteration records from Leland's observations of the 1540s to the council's acquisition in 1974. Crucially, it is all excellently referenced. Newman; Octavius Morgan's findings, and interestingly some of Evan Morgan's from his seemingly never published The Book of Morgan, and receipts for materials bought and work done, all with citations to the information's location in the NLW; and accounts from visitors over the centuries. If you would like, I can email it over to you. It's certainly an interesting read, even if not for Wiki purposes. Best. Mac Edmunds (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Mac - sorry for the delay. IRL is challenging at present, and I'm not doing much here just now. But that timeline does sound interesting, and sometime I will get round to the architecture of Tredegar House. So mail it over when you have a moment and I shall take a look. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 08:57, 14 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Harlaxton Manor

I came across this article a fortnight ago at WP:GAN and would have taken it up for GA review, were it not for my examinations. It is well written, and I look forward to reviewing it if it is still there at the end of May. In the meantime, I have made a few minor revisions. Best, MSincccc (talk) 05:27, 6 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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I WILL report this whole fiasco upon the next reversion by anyone involved. -- Avocado (talk) 12:25, 8 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Noted and replied on the article's Talkpage. KJP1 (talk) 20:12, 8 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Duke of Monmouth's sword

Hi KJP1. You mentioned the Duke of Monmouth to me a while ago. I was just watching an episode of Oz and James Drink to Britain and on visiting cider-makers in Gloucestershire, one of the makers produced a rusty sword which he proclaimed to be "Duke u' Monmouth's that, innit". Says that "he left it in a barn nearby after a rebellion (this rebellion?) or summit". Seems like the sort of local folklore which gets banded about, but thought it might interest you. YouTube link here, the mentioned scene at about 6:50. All the best. Mac Edmunds (talk) 16:51, 28 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It is sometimes the case that these local traditions can have their roots in actual history. And then again, often not! All the best. KJP1 (talk) 19:55, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! You should read Lawrence, Berta (1986). "Thomas Hardy and the Duke of Monmouth". The Thomas Hardy Journal. 2 (3): 56–58. JSTOR 45272024. (available via Wikipedia Library), and "Sword of the Duke of Monmouth". Archaeological Journal. 21 (1): 62–63. doi:10.1080/00665983.1864.10851277. (which does not seem to be, I'm going to ask for it at WP:RX). I shall probably follow up with asking at the RefDesk too. DuncanHill (talk) 20:54, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The Archaeological Journal article can be found at Archaeology Data Service. DuncanHill (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

DuncanHill - Duncan, if you do take this to the Reference Desk, see if anyone knows why he was given the title Duke of Monmouth. It had never been bestowed before and, perhaps less surprisingly, hasn’t been since. And Monmouth at the time, (1663), was an obscure county town, which it largely remains! As far as I know, neither Charles II or Lucy Walter had connections to it, although Lucy was Welsh, though from Pembrokeshire. The local grandee, Henry Somerset, 1st Duke of Beaufort, did entertain Charles at Badminton House in 1663. Did he suggest it? But that’s only the most tenuous connection. So why Monmouth? KJP1 (talk) 08:29, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating articles, thank you. I do like the idea of a “knot of rustic mummers”. Not dissimilar to the two guys Oz and James met in the video! KJP1 (talk) 08:41, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Here's a modern photo of the sword, which seems to match the description in the Archaeological Journal. By comparison, the cider-makers' sword seems a rather more unlikely and rudimentary affair. Mac Edmunds (talk) 09:04, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"Why Monmouth?" is a good question, I have asked it here. This is the original question about Hardy and the Sword, and here I ask about the tree Monmouth was found under. DuncanHill (talk) 19:51, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]