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The result was delete‎. Malinaccier (talk) 17:37, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Melissa Becraft

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Lacking significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. Doesn't meet WP:NBASIC. Frost 15:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete per nom Themoonisacheese (talk) 09:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - the first source is directly about the use of AI in TikTok videos but only tangentially related to her, and none of the other sources are reliable. Having lots of followers can be useful for assessing notability, but isn't always correlated. Bearian (talk) 04:38, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as advertising --Loewstisch (talk) 12:20, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - insufficient coverage from reliable secondary sources. C 679 10:36, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn with no remaining deletion proposals. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 22:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Morag McLaren

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Can't find anything that suggests Morag McLaren is notable. The only source in the article is very weak. Guiy de Montfort de L'Amaury 00:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I can see plenty of coverage in the British Newspaper Archive. I'll add it and come back to vote. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Due to the improvements made by RebeccaGreen (talk) can this nomination be withdrawn? -- Guiy de Montfort de L'Amaury 13:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've made only a few improvements to the actual article so far! I've been creating a table of performances in my sandbox, to move to the article when more complete, so there will be more. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added more info, references and a table of performances to the article. I'm still adding to the article, but it is clear that she meets WP:ENTERTAINER, with significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The coverage spans a large time period and when combined the newspaper reviews and coverage in frequently cited sources like The Stage count towards c1 of WP:BASIC. As with all subjects that are covered by pre Internet sources some additional work ensuring that the reader's path to WP:V is as smooth as it can be, ie. National Newspaper Archives, Internet archives etc is an ATD route well worth exploring.𝔓^420°𝔓^Holla 09:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets WP:MUSICBIO, she has sufficient coverage such as The Herald, The Time etc Maxcreator (talk) 17:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dante Henderson

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As per WP:NRSNVNA. Fails Verifiability and i couldn’t find any coverage of him. Apart from a very old Washington post mentioning him, there is no recent coverage whatsoever. Pizza on Pineapple ^{(Let's eat🍕)} 13:11, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Does not come close the meeting WP:GNG criteria. Lacks WP:RS citations or other sources to confirm notability. Go4thProsper (talk) 02:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This [1], but I'm not sure if it's even the same person. I don't see notability for wikipedia, this reads like a resume. Oaktree b (talk) 15:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Beeblebrox ^Beebletalks 22:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Big Smart

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Fails WP:NACTOR, WP:ENT, WP: ANYBIO or WP:GNG. All the sources are either promotional pieces or unreliable. Ibjaja055 (talk) 23:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Does not appear to have reliable secondary sourcing to confirm notability for WP:GNG. Mamani1990 (talk) 00:11, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: There are some WP:GNG-sources in the article but I could be wrong; so, delete.. Ahola .O (talk) 00:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Absolutely nothing to establish WP:ENT or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vanessa Xtravaganza

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Disputed draftification. WP:DRAFTOBJECT prevents unilateral redraftification., Fails WP:BIO 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete WP:MILL club performer. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:41, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Mekomo (talk) 16:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No reliable sources providing significant coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Madeleine (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG. An alternative could be to redirect to House of Xtravaganza where she is mentioned once. Asparagusstar (talk) 00:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I couldn't find SIGCOV in any RS, clear fail of WP:GNG. Agree with Asparagusstar about redirection as a possible WP:ATD. UpTheOctave! • 8^va? 22:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 17:29, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Demzy BaYe

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and all the sources cannot count toward WP: GNG. There are also elements of source farming here, in June 2024, this source was published in up to nine ([2] , [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] different newspapers with different titles but same contents word for word. Probably, the subject's notability is tied to being the originator of Baye Dance step, however, the dance step is also not notable. I would have redirect it to Dance with a Purpose Academy (DWP Academy) but it has no page on Wikipedia. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: In accepting the draft of this article, I considered it under WP:NMUSICOTHER, and yes, took the invention of dance steps to be notable, supported by national shows and performances, as documented. I don't think we're seeing source farming - rather, as happens with AP and similar, a base article was probably produced in one source location and circulated (it's not a press release) - the piece was found in respectable sources such as the Accra Times - so the only limitation is that that counts only once. Given performance, choreography, etc., I believe GNG is met, if not by much - I've seen a lot of less-well-attested articles (and yes, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is valid, but I weight what there is vs. the source base in Ghana). SeoR (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SeoR Thanks for the explanation but I took my time to go through all the sources and couldn't find GNG sources. The widely circulated source is highly promotional with flowery languages.hijacking the internet...He boasts a remarkable footprint... the multidimensional dance powerhouse whose talent has garnered widespread admiration and inspired an entire generation. .... Other sources are social media gossips like [10] [11] [12] and so on. Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for coming back, and I see your point. I do think the over-circulated article could be genuine "entertainment journalism" which often tends to the flowery, but I agree it's not ideal. And the "gossipy" materials are only good for background, not as primary references. I will try to search some of the main Ghana media sites for more. In the end, this was a "Random AfC" and I have no attachment, but I am aware that our coverage of areas such as arts in most non-EU, non-Anglosphere countries could use a boost, so I'd be loathe to lose an article with real potential. SeoR (talk) 00:30, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: It's a delete, the sourcing just isn't there... Inventing a dance step seems like a tenuous claim to notability with such poor sourcing. I can't find anything extra we could use. Oaktree b (talk) 00:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibjaja055Per @WP:GNG, a topic is presumed notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Demzy Baye meets this criterion because:

He has been featured in multiple suitable sources, including GhanaWeb, CitiNewsroom, Channel1News, MyJoyOnline, and Pulse Ghana.

These sources provide significant, non-trivial coverage, not just passing mentions.

The sources are independent and reliable, meeting Wikipedia's editorial standards.

His contributions, including originating the Baye Dance Step and influencing DWP Academy, demonstrate lasting impact in the dance industry.

Since Demzy Baye meets @WP:GNG and @WP:NMUSICBIO, deletion is unnecessary. Instead, efforts can be made to improve citations if needed. Kwekujasper (talk) 18:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:MUSICBIO or WP:COMPOSER. There are no sources to establish WP:GNG either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 21:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cynthia_Akanga

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I believe Cynthia_Akanga fails the WP:GNG criteria. Person has brief bios on both linkedin and imdb but very little independent coverage. SallyRenee (talk) 05:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: could not find any reliable source to establish notability most sources are primary and IMDb FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I believe the relevant guideline is WP:ENTERTAINER. It says that the person may be considered notable if the person has had significant roles in multiple television shows or stage performances. Akanga has had multiple roles, two to be exact: a stage performance and a role in a television show. Wikipedia does not have a lot of articles about Togolese women. Conscious of the WP:Systemic bias, I vote keep. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
can you share the source(s) for these performances?

In general, WP:ENTERTAINER does not override WP:BASIC. FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Ruud Buitelaar and per WP:ENT. She had significant roles in multiple notable productions. – Anne drew (talk · contribs) 04:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She had an appearance on a podcast and was a substitute jury for an obscure show. What notable productions? FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The French sources are the same as the ones used here, only confirming she was a judge on a TV show, not unlike American Idol is. I don't think that's enough for notability. They are simple "meet the celebrity" articles. Oaktree b (talk) 17:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - terrible sources; only two shows are not multiple shows. One of the shows she appeared is a reality television show; we don't have articles on jurors or those who don't place in the top three. Her 15 minutes of fame was in 1998. I'm aware of systemic bias, but we have deleted lots of articles about White and male contestants, too, like Tyler Neasloney. Bearian (talk) 15:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I insist. I have added a few more references. Akanga was choreographer for Cirque du Soleil and Circo Price. She choreographed shows in Israel and Spain.Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

you cannot vote twice! FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It is OK by me, @FuzzyMagma, to strike out my vote, but please note that after @Liz relisted the AfD to generate a more thorough discussion, I found new information and references. I think that part at least you should not strike out. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:52, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for that. I amended my edit above. FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:18, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 15:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I voted Keep yesterday, on the basis that she had been a choreographer for Cirque du Soleil, Circo Price, Cirque Zumba Zumba, Illusia. However, doing a web search on "Cirque du Soleil" and Akanga shows that she was one of five assistants to the choreographers in 2013, a year before she claimed to have been a choreographer with them. Searching for "Notre-Dame de Paris" and Akanga shows that she was a dancer in that show, not a lead role or a choreographer. So we are left with choreographing Illusia for Imagination Circus in Israel, and Pasión sin puñales for Teatro Circo Price (and co-choreographing at least one other show for them). WP:CREATIVE requires that "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" . It's not clear that the shows she choreographed are significant or well-known, or have multiple reviews, so I don't think she meets that. RebeccaGreen (talk) 04:05, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for being thorough. I took the sources at face value FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I came here to close this, but seeing there's been no further discussion per Liz's relisting plea, I'll have a go at it. First of all it is really hard to judge these spammy entertainment sites because they have so many ads it wants to lock up my computer when I open multiple tabs. Just grousing. letempstg.com is an interview with some facts interspersed. It is a weak source. www.telestar.fr seems to be the same as letempstg, so this is a single source. ynetnews is strictly a casual mention. Same with artezblai.com. I can't access Programme-tv.net. purepeople.com is another casual mention, although at least it gives one single biographical fact about the topic. Therefore we have one weak source for this BLP topic, as my other searches turned up nothing else, I don't think this meets any of Wikipedia's notability standards, including BASIC or GNG. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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