Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demzy BaYe

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 17:29, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Demzy BaYe

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and all the sources cannot count toward WP: GNG. There are also elements of source farming here, in June 2024, this source was published in up to nine ([1] , [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] different newspapers with different titles but same contents word for word. Probably, the subject's notability is tied to being the originator of Baye Dance step, however, the dance step is also not notable. I would have redirect it to Dance with a Purpose Academy (DWP Academy) but it has no page on Wikipedia. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Dance, and Ghana. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In accepting the draft of this article, I considered it under WP:NMUSICOTHER, and yes, took the invention of dance steps to be notable, supported by national shows and performances, as documented. I don't think we're seeing source farming - rather, as happens with AP and similar, a base article was probably produced in one source location and circulated (it's not a press release) - the piece was found in respectable sources such as the Accra Times - so the only limitation is that that counts only once. Given performance, choreography, etc., I believe GNG is met, if not by much - I've seen a lot of less-well-attested articles (and yes, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is valid, but I weight what there is vs. the source base in Ghana). SeoR (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SeoR Thanks for the explanation but I took my time to go through all the sources and couldn't find GNG sources. The widely circulated source is highly promotional with flowery languages.hijacking the internet...He boasts a remarkable footprint... the multidimensional dance powerhouse whose talent has garnered widespread admiration and inspired an entire generation. .... Other sources are social media gossips like [9] [10] [11] and so on. Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for coming back, and I see your point. I do think the over-circulated article could be genuine "entertainment journalism" which often tends to the flowery, but I agree it's not ideal. And the "gossipy" materials are only good for background, not as primary references. I will try to search some of the main Ghana media sites for more. In the end, this was a "Random AfC" and I have no attachment, but I am aware that our coverage of areas such as arts in most non-EU, non-Anglosphere countries could use a boost, so I'd be loathe to lose an article with real potential. SeoR (talk) 00:30, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 14:14, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 16:04, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: It's a delete, the sourcing just isn't there... Inventing a dance step seems like a tenuous claim to notability with such poor sourcing. I can't find anything extra we could use. Oaktree b (talk) 00:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibjaja055Per @WP:GNG, a topic is presumed notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Demzy Baye meets this criterion because:

He has been featured in multiple suitable sources, including GhanaWeb, CitiNewsroom, Channel1News, MyJoyOnline, and Pulse Ghana.

These sources provide significant, non-trivial coverage, not just passing mentions.

The sources are independent and reliable, meeting Wikipedia's editorial standards.

His contributions, including originating the Baye Dance Step and influencing DWP Academy, demonstrate lasting impact in the dance industry.

Since Demzy Baye meets @WP:GNG and @WP:NMUSICBIO, deletion is unnecessary. Instead, efforts can be made to improve citations if needed. Kwekujasper (talk) 18:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:MUSICBIO or WP:COMPOSER. There are no sources to establish WP:GNG either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.