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A Forest Apart

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Can't find any reviews or bestseller listings for this e-book. Fails WP:NBOOK. Suggesting a redirect to List of Star Wars books#Star Wars Legends stories (1976–2014). Mika1h (talk) 09:36, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature. Mika1h (talk) 09:36, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Star Wars books#Star Wars Legends stories (1976–2014) as suggested. I couldn't find any reviews or other coverage either. MCE89 (talk) 10:09, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Gossamer Project

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Fan fiction archive that does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Most of the sources are WP:PRIMARY, and several are outright impossible to find. Mostly consists of passing mentions and lack of WP:SIGCOV. Madeleine (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 May 20. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 22:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Websites. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:10, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The Gossamer Project seems to have been the subject of academic attention. Jennifer Seibel Trainor's chapter "Critical Cyberliteracy : Reading and Writing the XFiles" in What They Don’t Learn in School: Literacy in the Lives of Urban Youth (ed. Jabari Mahiri) focuses on it, and then again it's discussed by Andrea Lunsford in the following chapter in the same book, a response to the first one. Nicole Neece discusses it (not the same focus as in Jennifer Seibel Trainor's work, but no mere passing mention) in "The Truth is in the Archives: An Examination of The X-Files Fandom’s Preservation Practices" (Proceedings from the Document Academy, vol. 9, iss. 1 , article 4), to mention a couple. Google Scholar gives a few more hits I haven't had time to glance at, as well. /Julle (talk) 00:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Julle. In addition to the sources mentioned above, there are two PhD theses that discuss The Gossamer Project in depth: [1] [2]. While per WP:SCHOLARSHIP PhD theses should be used with care, both of these ones have been cited in the literature and in my view contribute at least a little towards notability. MCE89 (talk) 15:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automata in the Indian cultural imagination

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No disrespect to the student editor Meerad247 who created this article for their UChicago Computation, Culture, and Society class, but this article seems built on out-of-scope material and pseudohistory. Its discussion of yantras confuses the term's alternative Sanskrit meaning of machine/contraption as indicating that these geometric diagrams somehow operate as automata. Its discussion of Tholpavakoothu and broader puppetry confuses the field's goal of mimicking life with actual automata. In comparison, the Robot article recognizes Japan's Karakuri puppet as actually mechanized, while the History of robots article recognizes Hero of Alexandria's creation of a mechanical puppet theater.

The extended claim that the Lokapannati legend describes robots guarding the Buddha's tomb, only for Ashoka to defeat them is troubling pseudohistory. The claim is sourced to an article from The Conversation, which in turn cites a 1901 article that makes no mention of such robots (JSTOR link). Given that Mayor's article refers to greater coverage in her 2018 book Gods and Robots, I did further digging. When she presents the story there, it is cited to Raimon Panikkar's 1984 article "The Destiny of Technological Civilization: An Ancient Buddhist Legend Romavisaya" which opens by warning "I shall offer an interpretation of this story which the medievals might have called allegorico-anagogical: I shall consider this text of the past in the context of the present. I shall not make this paper heavy with footnotes or with hermeneutical 'praenotanda' to justify this interpretation." Scholarly recognition that Panikkar's article is WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE includes the 2017 book chapter "Panikkar's Quest for an Alternative Way of Thinking and Acting," which frames that 1984 article as a fringe attempt to treat technology as a Western advancement that poses future danger.

Generally, this article has an awkward title that would be better changed to "Robots in Indian culture" if kept as no other article begins with "Automata in ..." and "Indian cultural imagination" is needlessly wordy. For now, deletion seems warranted over focusing on appropriate inclusions like the 2010 movie Enthiran because until sources are presented to show reliable sources recognizing the robots in Indian culture as a distinct topic, such entries would be better covered by Robots in literature and Science fiction film#Robots. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 22:41, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy, Buddhism, and India. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 22:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Puppets are robots? This article makes no sense. I'm sure there's something in there, but this goes all other the place. Oaktree b (talk) 00:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A robot is a machine—especially one programmable by a computer—capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically --- from the Wiki article about robots, from the link in this article. None of the examples in this article seem to fit that. Oaktree b (talk) 00:24, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In theory, an article could be created around Automata in India or something like that. But there already is an article about the inimitable Tipu's Tiger. Bearian (talk) 02:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Science fiction and fantasy proposed deletions

Exiles to Glory (via WP:PROD on 11 April 2025)