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Pope Francis Militants attack a group of tourists in Indian-administered Kashmir, killing 28 people. Pope Francis (pictured) dies at the age of 88. Daniel Noboa is re-elected president of Ecuador. Peruvian writer and Nobel Prize in Literature laureate Mario Vargas Llosa dies at the age of 89. A nightclub roof collapse in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, kills 232 people. Ongoing: Gaza war M23 campaign Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Fatima Hassouna Francis Davis Werner Thissen Joe Thompson Kyren Lacy Aliza Magen-Halevi view — page history — related changes — edit

Glossary Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story. Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story. A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles. Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage. The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death. All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality. Nomination steps Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC). Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate. Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready! You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination. The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted. Headers When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria. Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A. If satisfied, change the header to (Posted). Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted). Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled). Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Please do... Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible. Please do not... Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive. Suggesting updates There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items: Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors. Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

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April 24

Portal:Current events/2025 April 24

April 24, 2025 (2025-04-24) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Three children are killed and several others are injured after an Israeli airstrike hits a tent encampment in the Nuseirat refugee camp, resulting in a fire which spread through parts of the camp. (Al Jazeera) Israeli settler violence Israeli settlers in the West Bank shoot and injure five Palestinians and set fire to several homes and farmland. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Kyiv strikes, Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Nine people are killed and 63 others, including six children, are injured by a missile strike on Kyiv, Ukraine. (NDTV) International relations India–Pakistan relations Pakistan closes its land border and shared airspace with India indefinitely following the attack on tourists in Pahalgam, India-administered Kashmir, a few days ago and India's executive actions against Pakistan yesterday. (DW) Law and crime One student is killed and three others are critically injured in a mass stabbing at a private school in Nantes, Pays de la Loire, France. A 15-year-old student is detained. (Daily Mirror) Former South Korean President Moon Jae-in is indicted with charges of alleged corruption and bribery for receiving ₩217 million (US$152,000) in connection with his son-in-law's employment at Thai airline Eastar Jet. (DW) Science and technology The Shenzhou 20 spacecraft launches succesfully from Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, China, carrying three astronauts on a six-month mission to install space debris protection and carry out scientific experiments on solar and cosmic ray radiation on planarians. (Reuters) (DW)

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April 23

Portal:Current events/2025 April 23

April 23, 2025 (2025-04-23) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian forces launch a drone strike on a bus in Marhanets, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Ukraine, killing nine people. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents 2025 Istanbul earthquake A Mw 6.2 earthquake with an epicenter in the Sea of Marmara strikes İstanbul, Turkey, injuring at least 359 people. (AP) Health and environment 2023–2025 global coral bleaching event The International Coral Reef Initiative announces that over 84% of the world's coral reefs are affected by a coral bleaching event since 2023, considered the most intense on record. (AP) International relations Death and funeral of Pope Francis The body of Pope Francis is moved from Domus Sanctae Marthae to St. Peter's Basilica, and lies in state for a 3-day public viewing. (CBS News) 2025 India–Pakistan diplomatic crisis, India–Pakistan relations India announces several measures targeting Pakistan including closing the main border crossing linking the two countries, suspending the Indus Water Treaty, and expelling Pakistani diplomats after the attack on tourists in Indian-administered Kashmir yesterday. (BBC News) Law and crime The Jordanian interior ministry bans all activities of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood organization in the country, seizes the organization's assets, and closes all of its offices, including its political wing in the country, the Islamic Action Front. The Jordanian government links the group to sabotage plots and accuses it of "destabilizing" the country. (DW)

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RD: Steve "Mongo" McMichael

Article: Steve McMichael (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN, New York Times/The Athletic
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hall of Fame NFL player and WCW pro wrestler. Article needs a tiny bit of work but is generally in good shape. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:57, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose The wrestling kayfabe is presented as factual. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:57, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Andrew Davidson I don't see what you're talking about - it's written as a description of storyline, same as any other wrestler's page. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:02, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality numerous quality concerns here. There is uncited text in the lead which isn't mentioned elsewhere in the body of the article. He had a 15 year American football career, yet our section on it is short and comprised mostly of stats. Wrestling career is slightly in-universe, but this is least of the issues. And there's an orange tagged section. All in all, nowhere near meeting WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2025 Istanbul earthquake

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Article: 2025 Istanbul earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude-6.2 earthquake (map of the epicenter pictured) struck the Sea of Marmara, leaving at least 272 people injured and damage in Istanbul and across the region. (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: No fatalities but extensive coverage. ArionStar (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - No fatalities and I'm not seeing reports of major damage as of now. The response is the biggest story right now, and I don't see much merit in this story as-is right now. Departure– (talk) 16:48, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Departure. Thankfully seems to have had a comparatively minimal impact, versus the earthquakes we've posted before. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:50, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - no fatalities, relatively minor quake, damage appears minor. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 17:08, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait for more information, were there any fatalities that haven't been reported yet? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 19:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

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April 22

Portal:Current events/2025 April 22

April 22, 2025 (2025-04-22) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip Israeli airstrikes kill at least 25 people across the Gaza Strip. (RTÉ News) Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir 2025 Pahalgam attack At least 28 people are killed and dozens of others are injured when separatists open fire on people in Pahalgam, Anantnag district, Indian-controlled Jammu and Kashmir. (The New Indian Express) (The Guardian) Russian invasion of Ukraine Zaporizhzhia strikes Russian guided bombs target Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine, killing one person and wounding 26 others, according to regional governor Ivan Fedorov. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Jones Road Fire Roughly 5,000 residents are evacuated, the Garden State Parkway is shut down and a business is destroyed after a large wildfire burns 12,500 acres (51 km2) in Lacey Township, New Jersey, United States. (NBC News) (ABC News) Law and crime Palestine–Syria relations Syria detains two senior members of the paramilitary organization Palestinian Islamic Jihad. (Reuters) Seven people are killed in a mass stabbing when a man enters a bakery and attacks sleeping employees in Antipolo, Rizal, Philippines. (GMA Network) Interpol rescues 33 West Africans, including people from Benin, Togo, Burkina Faso, and Ghana, from human trafficking rings in the Ivory Coast. (AP) Politics and elections 2025 Ivorian presidential election Main opposition leader Tidjane Thiam is disqualified from the 2025 Ivorian presidential election. (BBC News) U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says that the U.S. State Department will cut 15% of its staff and that the office of the Under Secretary of State for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights will be abolished. (NPR)

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RD: Keith Stackpole

Article: Keith Stackpole (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and Jcok380 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 03:13, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Much of the biography section is unsourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

2025 Boston Marathon

Sharon Lokedi

Article: 2025 Boston Marathon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Over 30,000 runners compete in the Boston Marathon. Sharon Lokedi (pictured) beats the women's course record with a time of 2:17:22, while John Korir (men's division), Marcel Hug (men's wheelchair division), and Susannah Scaroni (women's wheelchair division) win their respective divisions. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Thousands of runners complete the Boston Marathon. John Korir, Sharon Lokedi (pictured), Marcel Hug, and Susannah Scaroni win their respective divisions, with Lokedi breaking the women's course record.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Over 30,000 runners compete in the Boston Marathon. Sharon Lokedi (pictured) beats the women's course record with a time of 2:17:22, while John Korir wins the men's division with a time of 2:04:45.
Alternative blurb III: ​ At the Boston Marathon, Sharon Lokedi (pictured) and John Korir win their respective divisions.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Sharon Lokedi (pictured) and John Korir win their respective divisions at the Boston Marathon.
News source(s): CBS, WCVB
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: per WP:ITN/R#Marathons, and a course record was broken Ahuman00 (talk) 19:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment We usually only cover the men's and women's winners, not the other divisions, simply to keep the blurb brief. Masem (t) 19:38, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Added altblurb2 with this in mind. Ahuman00 (talk) 19:43, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

That's still too complex. Usually it's something like "At the Boston Marathon, X wins the men's division and Y wins the women's." including how many participated is too much for how brief we should be. Masem (t) 19:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Added ab3. (Sorry, still new to this whole thing) Ahuman00 (talk) 19:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

John Korir is a disambig, so I redirected to John Korir (born 1996) Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

That's my bad, I'm all over today. Added image caption and bolded the article title in blurbs. Ahuman00 (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Added alt blurb 4. Natg 19 (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Alt-Blurb 4 since it's concise. After a few days switch to John Korir's picture. 23:53, 22 April 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harizotoh9 (talk • contribs)

For the alt photo of Korir, I'd suggest John Korir.jpg on Commons. Left guide (talk) 00:06, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

How long do we expect this to be on ITN, if accepted? Ahuman00 (talk) 00:14, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Impossible to predict with certainty, but usually a few days, possibly a week, mainly depending on how quickly subsequent blurb nominations gain consensus. Left guide (talk) 00:17, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Nominator comment - It appears blurb IV has the most support in replies. Looking to see if there's consensus to add to ITN. Add your 'support's/'oppose's/other constructive comments below. Ahuman00 (talk) 00:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose for now on quality. Article is barely more than a stub. Needs a lot of expansion, and in particular prose summaries for each of the events. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 08:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready. The article has no prose describing the races. There needs to be at least a paragraph each about the men's and women's races, with references, explaining what happened. If/when that's fixed, alt4 is the only decent blurb proposal. PS. I've piped out the year in the blurbs, which we never include Modest Genius ^talk 11:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

  More than 24 hours later, there has been no progress on the article. Modest Genius ^talk 15:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality due to lack of prose. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:05, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality no race summary prose. Entrant information should be prose not bullet points, and could ideally also include entrants for the wheelchair and notable people from the mass participation event too. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Winner man is a stub, winner woman is badly sourced. Grimes2 16:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Pahalgam attack

Article: 2025 Pahalgam attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 28 people are killed and several others injured in a terrorist attack in Pahalgam, India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 28 people are killed and several others injured in an attack in Pahalgam, disputed-Jammu and Kashmir, India.
Alternative blurb II: ​ At least 28 people are killed and several others injured in an attack in Pahalgam, Indian-administered Kashmir.
News source(s): Reuters, Al Jazeera, New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by RIDH-1 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The attack is among the deadliest targeting civilians in Kashmir in recent years and is the deadliest attack in the Valley after the Revocation of the special status of Jammu and Kashmir. RIDH-1 (talk) 17:03, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

comment terrorist is a loaded term.Sportsnut24 (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Don't want to sound rude but killing innocent tourists is undoubtedly an act of terrorism. RIDH-1 (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

It is not for us as a neutral platform to use loaded terms. State's also do that and we don't label it terrorism.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia's reluctance to label such acts as terrorism, even when civilians are deliberately targeted, reflects a flawed neutrality that can blur moral clarity. Neutrality shouldn't come at the cost of calling out violence against innocents. RIDH-1 (talk) 18:35, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

You can always take it to discussion to do so. In that case, every state attack on civilians would also be labeled terrorist. However, you can take that to discussion to get consensus.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:41, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't about "moral clarity" it's about cited information. It can't say anything is good or bad, and we let readers draw their own conclusions on such issues. Who is "innocent" or not is a POV and from the standpoint of an encyclopedia, no point of view is more important than others. Was this or that war good or bad? Is this person innocent? Very subjective, cultural, and endlessly debated and debatable and basically a waste of time. Instead, focus on improving articles so that readers can be best equipped to understand the topics so that they can draw conclusions on their own that are based on cited information. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Hey, we call bin Laden "militant reader" in the first lead sentence, if that tells you how cautiously we take the term "terrorist". — E_F⁵ 19:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

A pet peeve I have is the "domestic terrorist" exception. MOS:TERRORIST is inconsistently applied. See the lede of Timothy McVeigh. Bremps... 23:21, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment This is part of an ongoing low-intensity civil war. Bremps... 18:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm writing this comment assuming good faith :-) but calling it a "low-intensity civil war" is misleading. It’s a complex geopolitical conflict involving cross-border terrorism, separatist elements, and historical disputes between India and Pakistan. RIDH-1 (talk) 18:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

obvious support the casualty count if high enough and the context of it being so high since the changes make it notable. It is far more notable that boat drownings, rooftop collapses or discotheque fires.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Alt blurb 1 (though should use "Indian-administered Kashmir" per ITN precedent). Was on the fence about this (part of an ongoing dispute) but seeing this in line of the revocation of Article 370 of the Constitution of India and the specific targetting of civilians (uncommon for the region's militant groups); I think ITN criteria is met. Gotitbro (talk) 20:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Gotitbro: I added Altblurb2 which uses 'Indian-administered Kashmir'. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 03:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

  Shifting support to alt-blurb 2. Gotitbro (talk) 04:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support - but change terrorist to militant. I would also be alright with ALT1.

WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 23:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Either blurb could do, and the number of deaths is quite significant. PrimalMustelid (talk) 00:01, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Added and Support altblurb II (an attack could be changed to a militant attack though): Massive attack after a moment of peace, reported to be 'larger attack at civilians in recent years', draws domestic and international reaction. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 01:53, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Looks good, well cited. However, the reaction section should be reduced as a long one serves no purpose. Sherenk1 (talk) 02:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – neutral on the use of the "terrorist" term. "... in an attack" works well enough. Juxlos (talk) 03:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support altblurb II as it is worded with a NPOV about a significant event. 2402:E000:541:D5B6:0:0:0:1 (talk) 03:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – and will go with Altblurb II by ExclusiveEditor. The term "Indian-administered Kashmir" deals better for the region on the ITN, since the status of broader Kashmir region is disputed, "disputed-Jammu and Kashmir, India" causes ambiguity (i.e., dispute within the country (India) or at international level). MŠLQr (talk) 04:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above and go with Altblurb II. IDB.S (talk) 06:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted It seemed like the preference was for Altburb II, but I also felt that the blurb (all of them really) sounded a bit too passive (general preference for more active voice on ITN) and further didn't make it clear that this was a... non-state attack. I understand not using the term "terrorist", but it didn't seem like there was objection to the term "militants" (which is used repeatedly in the article) and mentioning "tourists" also provides further context. Reader can draw their own conclusions. -- tariqabjotu 06:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support Good shape for a terrorist attack article. ArionStar (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

RD/Blurb: Zurab Tsereteli

Article: Zurab Tsereteli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Georgian-Russian sculptor Zurab Tsereteli dies at the age of 91. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, The Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Kiril Simeonovski (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: He was one of the greatest and most famous sculptors of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. His famous works include Chronicle of Georgia and St. George Statue in Tbilisi, The Tear of Grief in Bayonne, New Jersey, Birth of the New World in Arecibo, Puerto Rico and Birth of a New Man in Seville. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality The article needs a lot of referencing work, there's a lot of information with no source. In its present state it is neither ready for RD nor blurb. 139.164.154.34 (talk) 10:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality too much unsourced. Oppose blurb, no indication of how they are a major figure in the world of art / sculpting. Would need discussion of legacy or impact to show this to be the case. Masem (t) 12:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as I've orange-tagged the article for a massive lack of citations. Oppose on notability per Masem - there's not a lot to indicate how he was a uniquely famous/notable sculptor to the level we generally reserve for blurbs. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:10, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose blurb He's not getting in the Who's Whos lists. See this and this. Bremps... 18:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose – Article has multiple unsourced statements. SurveyMonkey...

(Closed) Signalgate: 2nd leak

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Article: Signalgate (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A second security breach is found after chief US government officials' Signal group chats discussing confidential military operations in Yemen are shared by Pete Hegseth with his wife, brother, and personal lawyer. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: We somehow did not post the 1st leak, and whilst aware of not waiting writing great wrongs, this is still an unprecedented security breach given the level of people involved. Thearticle is currently being revamped to include this new leak and will likely be renamed to reflect the developing situation. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose until there are some real consequences (e.g. high government officials resign). After the first and the second leak, there may be third, fourth and so on and so forth. We cannot just post every time this happens.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  But we risk giving negative false equivalence here. Most administrations would have fired Hegseth by now, however that there are no consequences is a defining feature here. There are no consequences to any of these latest actions and everyone else looks to be powerless to execute anything of note to change that. That doesn't mean the leak itself doesn't have implications because a security breach of this magnitude does have consequences. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:10, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  I don't say this leak doesn't have implications or it's a minor thing. The problem here is that these leaks may become so frequent that we'd have to regularly post them if we set a precedent, and it'd be very difficult to say no if a future leak reveals more notable information than any of the previous leaks. I suggest to wait for a while to see if this continues and then re-nominate it for ongoing.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Zero ramifications came from the first leak, and the only thing happening is potentially the outster of Hegseth, which even if that does happen, will have very little long term impact. Politicians, journalists, and talking heads can talk how big of a problem it is, but until there's actual penalties placed against those that did that, its not a good story for ITN. Masem (t) 12:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose For the same reason I opposed the much bigger first leak story; Trump 2.0 shenanigans are simply much bigger than a single chat leak. Gotitbro (talk) 13:02, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. We already rejected the first leak; this one is getting less media attention. The article treats this new leak as a brief follow-up to the main event. It's clearly incompetent and maybe Hegseth will lose his job, but even if that happened it wouldn't be a big enough deal to merit an ITN blurb. This is domestic politics with lots of debate but no real outcomes. Modest Genius ^talk 13:23, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  We didnt reject the 1st nomination at all, it actually had consensus to post but came too late and was deemed stale. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  That nomination seems 'no consensus' to me - which is another way of saying ITN/C didn't support it sufficiently to post. Modest Genius ^talk 19:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Oh no! Anyways, no one has resigned. 2001:2020:347:C24D:2C9C:B7FF:FECB:C5C7 (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Short of having an Ongoing which would basically be an "Idiocracy in the USA" ticker, I don't see that we can accommodate the litany of omnishambles emanating from the White House. Black Kite (talk) 14:48, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Ongoing/news ticker-grade development. Call back when there's an actual outcome (resignation, conviction etc). CoatCheck (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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RD: Puan Noor Aishah

Article: Puan Noor Aishah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNA
Credits:

• Nominated by Robertsky (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Wife of the first president of Singapore – robertsky (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Technically not a stub, but stringy. Bremps... 02:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose – Article is too short and lacks depth; it does not sufficiently cover the subject's life and impact to support a blurb. SurveyMonkey... SurveyMonkey (talk) 07:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Nice signature. Bremps... 18:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

works well with dark mode – robertsky (talk) 06:23, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Note: The article has been expanded by others. – robertsky (talk) 06:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

April 21

Portal:Current events/2025 April 21

April 21, 2025 (2025-04-21) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Spillover of the Sudanese civil war 2025 Nasir clashes The South Sudan People's Defence Forces capture the town of Nasir in Upper Nile State from the Nuer White Army. (Reuters) Boko Haram insurgency The Islamic State claims responsibility for a series of deadly attacks targeting Christians and security forces in Borno and Adamawa, Nigeria earlier this month that killed at least nine people and injured several others. (Reuters) Business and economy ARK Invest becomes the first US-based asset manager to gain exposure to the Solana blockchain through an ETF investment after Canada approves several spot Solana ETFs. (Coin Market Cap) International relations Death and funeral of Pope Francis Cardinal Kevin Farrell, Camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church, announces that Pope Francis has died early on Easter Monday, at the age of 88. (Euronews) (AP) Cardinal Farrell, as Camerlengo, becomes the acting head of Vatican City until the next papal conclave in May. (NPR) Klaus Schwab steps down as leader of the World Economic Forum, which he founded in 1971. (DW) Law and crime 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting The perpetrator of the racially motivated domestic terrorist mass shooting attack that killed 23 people and injured 22 others at a Walmart building in El Paso, Texas, United States, in 2019, 26-year-old Patrick Wood Crusius, pleads guilty to state charges and is sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole to avoid the death penalty. (USA Today) Sports 2025 Boston Marathon In long-distance running, Kenyan road runner John Korir wins the men's competition at the Boston Marathon with a time of 2:04:45 which, along with his brother Wesley Korir's win in 2012, makes them the first and only set of brothers to win the event. (The New York Times) Kenyan athlete Sharon Lokedi wins the women's competition with a time of 2:17:22 and sets the new course record, surpassing Buzunesh Deba's record in 2014. (WBZ-TV)

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RD: Hajji Alejandro

Article: Hajji Alejandro (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Philstar.com
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:25DF:E53F:705:D068 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Raider000 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Filipino singer and actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:25DF:E53F:705:D068 (talk) 08:26, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Gerard Kennedy

Article: Gerard Kennedy (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3], [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 03:12, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Peter von Matt

Article: Peter von Matt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NZZ
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Swiss philologist, specialist in German studies, and author Grimes2 (talk) 18:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Whole enough and well-cited enough. Bremps... 23:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Looks decent. Sourced. --BabbaQ (talk) 00:42, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Herbert J. Gans

Article: Herbert J. Gans (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 06:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose "Studies in news media" section is entirely unsourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Pope Francis' death

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Article: Pope Francis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Pope Francis dies aged 88. (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by Twistedaxe (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 TwistedAxe [contact] 08:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support ITN/R nobrainer for hook. Article adequately updated. Juxlos (talk) 08:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support no need to debate this. ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support – Self-evident. Only possible caveat is cause of death probably should be included (both in article and in blurb), but otherwise ready for ITN. ArkHyena (they/any) 08:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  Altblurbs are welcome, wrote my blurb in a rush. TwistedAxe [contact] 08:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Also nominating as the featured articles for In The News section, once the wiki is edited WadoodSultan (talk) 08:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support per all above. There's no argument or debate for this. ROY is WAR Talk! 08:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Support: Head of over 1 billion faithful. Prodrummer619 (talk) 08:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work There's a prominent cleanup tag saying that the article has an unclear citation style. That has been there since January and so some cleanup and copy-editing seems needed. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: The unfortunate day has come. Tofusaurus (talk) 08:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Well written and clearly evident for blurbing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: No debate needed. RIP. Pyramids09 (talk) 08:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support It was more worthly deserved a separate article dedicated to death of him. RIP. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 08:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Well said by literally everyone else, no brainer AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 08:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Per above. Importance is given. Ornithoptera (talk) 08:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. A major religious figure and Pope for twelve years. No brainer, as what the guy above said. RealAmericanNixonite (talk) 08:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Death and funeral of Pope Francis now has a standalone article. jlwoodwa (talk) 08:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article seems well-written. As mentioned above, it has a yellow tag which should be addressed, but I do not see any talk page discussion detailing what the issue is. As long as the issue is merely grammatical and nothing is unsourced, I am fine with saying it should not hold up posting this major event to ITN. Davey2116 (talk) 08:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support ITNR and meets WP:ITNQUALITY (a yellow tag for citation style doesn't stop this being posted). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support EmilySarah99 (talk) 08:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support The head of the largest religion on the glob dying is pretty noteworthy news LukySe7en (talk) 08:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Obviously support The Seal F1 (talk) 08:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment: I think the citation style tag is due to the three books listed at the bottom of the References section. – robertsky (talk) 08:37, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Support as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support no debate needed JustAnAlbo (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Easy support here Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 08:43, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Per others Centuries123 (talk) 08:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posting. The article is updated, the yellow tag is seen as non problematic. Since there is a separate article on death and funeral, it can be incorporated into the blurb later. Please also take care of the photo. --Tone 08:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Image  Done. Black Kite (talk) 09:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Short and simple. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 11:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment the article on his death should be linked and probably blurbed

Kowal2701 (talk) 13:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• The death article has no additional encyclopedic content to the main article (reactions lists are trivial), so doesn't meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support Obviously. ArionStar (talk) 15:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Post posting support rest in peace Holy Father Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Post-posting support God rest his soul. TenorTwelve (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Post-posting support - nobrainer for posting WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

JD Vance angle: I do not endorse the rumors exploding across the Internet that Vance somehow killed the Pope, whether due to stress or with alien nanobots or the like, but do we want to mention that death came hours after their meeting? Hyperbolick (talk) 17:08, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

No, blurbs are meant to be kept as simple and straightforward as possible (per ITN/A: The aim of the blurb is to convey the most pertinent facts in as little space as possible.). And adding Vance is unnecessary and UNDUE. Natg 19 (talk) 17:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Of course we don't put that in the headline. But lettuce reconsider it if Vance suffers the same fate as Truss. Nfitz (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

No the visit is irrelevant to a death blurb. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

She was actually Head Honcho, not just a Munchkin? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

The Pope met the Croatian PM last anyway, so I'm not sure why the second-last guy to visit him matters. Bremps... 18:55, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

No, no reason to implicitly make accusations. - RockinJack18 18:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Not relevant compared to such a monumental death, also WP:NTRUMP and trying to keep an "encylopedic tone" Normalman101 (talk) 19:48, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Death and funeral of Pope Francis is an article now. ArionStar (talk)`

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Possible blurb target change to Death and funeral of Pope Francis

Per the current ITN section of WP:ERRORS, this sub-section is being opened so the community can discuss and assess article quality for a possible blurb target change to Death and funeral of Pope Francis. The relevant change would look like this. Left guide (talk) 00:26, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

I suggested that we add a normal (not bold) link, viz

Pope Francis (pictured) dies at the age of 88.

I don't think that requires an ITN/C discussion or understand why it was objected to. It's a minor improvement to the blurb that I still think should be implemented. Modest Genius ^talk 13:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Generally any significant changes to a blurb should be done via ITNC. Particularly required if a new or different target is proposed. Even if we are just considering adding the death article as a non target link it should be verified that it is okay here. To that end I'm fine with adding the death article as a non target link, but as a target link it doesn't do much now that the main bio article does (it won't be at a state until after the funeral). Masem (t) 13:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• @Masem and Modest Genius: Is there at least a consensus to add it as a normal unbolded link? (I personally have no objections to such a change) Masem, as an admin maybe you can do it if you're willing and see consensus for it. Left guide (talk) 02:52, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article about death is fine. Grimes2 14:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• I think it's fine to add it as non-bolded now. Not as the primary link though. Black Kite (talk) 14:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Added to blurb as normal nonfeatured linkMasem (t) 14:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) WrestleMania 41

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Article: WrestleMania 41 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In professional wrestling, John Cena (pictured) is the 17th time champion beating Ric Flair's record in WrestleMania 41. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In professional wrestling, John Cena (pictured) defeats Cody Rhodes by pinfall making 17th champion breaking Ric Flair's record in WrestleMania 41.
News source(s): Cagesideseats USA Today Wrestletalk
Credits:

• Nominated by Royiswariii (talk · give credit)

 ROY is WAR Talk! 02:55, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• There are two tables called "Other on-screen personnel" that are unreferenced. Could that be rectified, please? Schwede66 04:43, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  @Schwede66, the "Other on-screen personnel" doesn't require reference for that based on the Good Article like WrestleMania XXX. ROY is WAR Talk! 06:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  Surprising, but I shall relax. Schwede66 06:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  Just because other articles don't do things properly doesn't mean it's not necessary here. This won't get posted but needs references if it ever was going to. Stephen 07:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Pro Wrestling is well known to be staged, so I don't know why we'd be playing along with this and saying this or that person "won" anything. It's more like the outcome of a play than a real competition. Harizotoh9 (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on significance per Harizotoh, since it's a staged event not a sporting event where the result was in doubt. Also oppose on quality per the unreferenced tables mentioned by Schwede.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment The most significant real-world aspect of this seems to be that, for the first time, the event was live-streamed on Netflix at no extra charge for international audiences. See the BBC preview for good detail on the media business implications. Our article says a bit about this but doesn't, for example, say anything about the excessive number of adverts, as the BBC report does. So, it probably won't be posted but that leaves ITN just running a college basketball item from two weeks ago, as if nothing else significant is happening in the US. It's not a good look either way. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. This is not an athletic competition, but a scripted performance. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose As much of a fan of pro wrestling as I am, it’s a scripted show - it’d be akin to posting a reality show’s final to ITN. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:00, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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April 20

Portal:Current events/2025 April 20

April 20, 2025 (2025-04-20) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis US–UK airstrikes on Yemen March–April 2025 United States attacks in Yemen The Houthis report that twelve people are killed and thirty others are injured in airstrikes on a market and a residential zone in Farwa District, Sanaa, Yemen. (Le Monde) Disasters and accidents The death toll from drownings during the week across Australia increases to seven after a fisherman dies after being swept off rocks near Sydney. Three people remain missing and one other was injured. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) The death toll of the capsized Hong Hai 16 off Occidental Mindoro, Philippines, rises to nine. Two others are still missing. (Manila Bulletin) Three people are killed and ten others are injured, including one critically and four firefighters, in a large house fire in Jamaica Estates, Queens, New York, United States. (WABC-TV) (WCBS-TV) Law and crime At least one person, the perpetrator, is killed and six others are injured, in an arson attack when a man sets fire to an apartment building with a flamethrower in Bongcheon-dong, Seoul, South Korea. (Yonhap) Sports In table tennis, Hugo Calderano of Brazil defeats Lin Shidong of China 4–1 sets, winning the ITTF World Cup and becoming the first athlete from the Americas to win the competition. (CNN Brasil)

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Hugo Calderano wins table tennis title

Article: Hugo Calderano (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In table tennis, Brazilian player Hugo Calderano (pictured) wins the Table Tennis World Cup men's singles, becoming the first athlete from the Americas to win the competition. (Post)
News source(s): ITTF
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Unprecedented title, "breaking the Chinese dominance". Article in good conditions. ArionStar (talk) 23:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Please provide references for the section "Clubs". Schwede66 01:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment isn't it more usual on ITN to blurb the event, not the winner? Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
  • And as this was a mixed event, that means the women's winner should also be posted. Which further leads me to question if this event is actually in the news, as the source above is the website of the organization that runs the even, not an independent source. Masem (t) 12:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
    • It's quite easy to search using Google News. My impression is that this mainly covered in Brazilian/Chinese news so sites like Xinhua, South China Morning Post and TV BRICS have it on their English language pages. This indicates that there's considerable systemic bias here. Table tennis is quite a well-known sport but, because it's dominated by non-Anglo nations, it's not in ITN/R. China especially dominates the sport but ITN rarely covers Chinese news. Perhaps the ongoing world events will change this... Andrew🐉(talk) 14:47, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

      Well there's also the fact the yearly event is hit or miss if there is an article about it, much less one of quality. I did look to see if we have table tennis as an ITNR as it would make sense, but clearly we haven't had anyone sufficiently vested in trying to bring the annual event up to speed. Masem (t) 14:52, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Regardless of significance (which is doubtful), the relevant article would be 2025 Table Tennis World Cup (or 2025 ITTF Men's World Cup), which doesn't exist. Bold links are for the event in question, not the athlete. If no-one has bothered to write an article, we cannot even consider this for ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 11:52, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  Why would significance be doubtful here? Abcmaxx (talk) 12:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Ping-pong isn't in the WP:ITNR. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  If articles were of significant quality and posted regularly then it would be. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

  Routine events not listed at ITNR can be made as regular ITNC, and that's often a route for bringing a routine event into ITNR if its shown to be posted multiple times in a row as an ITNC. Masem (t) 12:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support notability but Oppose on quality. Being a world champion in an Olympic sport that has a huge worldwide player participation, especially so in several countries where it is widely played, and is the de facto national sport of the world's most populous nation state, certainly merits posting. However, as in other sports articles, 2025 Table Tennis World Cup should be the target, and this is a huge shame as Calderano's win is a seismic upset of the biggest proportions. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

April 19

Portal:Current events/2025 April 19

April 19, 2025 (2025-04-19) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Herder–farmer conflicts in Nigeria The death toll from clashes between cattle herders and farmers earlier this week in Benue State, Nigeria, rises to 56. (Barron's) At least 178 people are arrested in Pakistan after over 10 group attacks on KFC restaurants occur during protests against United States support for Israel in the Gaza war, with one employee shot dead. (Al Jazeera) (Al Arabiya) Disasters and accidents Four people are killed when a Cessna 180 Skywagon aircraft clips powerlines and crashes into a field southwest of Coles County Memorial Airport in Trilla, Illinois, United States. (WCIA) Seven people are killed when a passenger jeepney on a family tour crashes into a roadside canal in Boac, Marinduque, Philippines. (Xinhua) (Radyo Pilipinas) The death toll of the capsized Hong Hai 16 sand barge four days ago off Occidental Mindoro, Philippines, rises to seven. Four others are still missing. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) Two people are killed and three others are rescued after two vehicles are swept off a road during flooding in southeast Moore, Oklahoma, United States. (KWTV-DT) Law and crime 2025 Tesla vandalism U.S. federal authorities charge a student at the University of Massachusetts Boston with unlawful possession of a destructive device and malicious damage by fire after the student is arrested for setting fire to two Tesla Cybertrucks and damaging charging stations in Kansas City. (The Independent) U.S. authorities arrest a man in Colorado Springs for his "Declaration of War" threatening Elon Musk, Tesla owners, and members of Donald Trump's cabinet. The declaration, sent to various media outlets, detailed specific attack methods and aimed at Musk's elimination. (CBS News) Four executives at a company building the State Audit Office skyscraper in Bangkok, Thailand, are arrested on suspicion of breaching the Foreign Business Act. (CTV News) A tavern owner is killed and four others are injured in a mass shooting during a live music performance at a tavern in Marble Hall, Limpopo, South Africa. No arrests were made. (SABC)

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RD: Karen Durbin

Article: Karen Durbin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bklibcat67 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death reported 19 April. Thriley (talk) 03:37, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Fully referenced, appropriate depth. Spencer^T•C 04:26, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support 3429 characters (549 words) "readable prose size", no issues. Grimes2 (talk) 10:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - long enough. Sourced.BabbaQ (talk) 12:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Reviewers needed) RD: Guy Ullens

Article: Guy Ullens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews, VRT Nws
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E0D6:217:D193:E673 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Belgian art collector and founder of the UCCA Center for Contemporary Art. 240F:7A:6253:1:E0D6:217:D193:E673 (talk) 09:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support No issues. Grimes2 (talk) 11:06, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Supreme Court order on deportations

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Article: A.A.R.P. v. Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Supreme Court blocks the Trump administration's deportation of Venezuelan men under the Alien Enemies Act in a 1:00 a.m. order. (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Created and nominated by voorts (talk · give credit)

 voorts (talk/contributions) 18:34, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - It doesn't seem worthy of being ITN candidate because its just a case. Also Trump deported many more migrants already and so this group of migrants being blocked doesn't really make anything radical or new. DotesConks (talk) 18:55, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

This just a case has attained significant worldwide media coverage and commentary because of the unusual nature of the order. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - As long as I have been alive, the United States has been one of several countries with a reputation for deporting people for any reason or no reason at all. I see no change in that long-standing policy under the Trump administration, and this judicial ruling falls a long way short of any change. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Why does it need to change policy to be enough for ITN? The media and commenters have been describing this as a significant separation of powers confrontation that represents a significant rebuke to Trump's AEA invocation from the Court. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:02, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose This is part of a far larger story related to the possible constitutional crisis on how the Trump admin has been handling deportations and its disregards for the courts, though we're still not yet at a point that it has tipped beyond a threshold. That larger story is most likely what will be what is more appropriate for ITN to post than one of multiple court orders that have been placed about this. Masem (t) 20:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

We don't have crystal balls and what may or may not happen should not play a role in determination. Focusing on the merits of the story is what alone should be determined rather than our own speculation. Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:31, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that this specific story is an element of a much larger story. This element alone is not worth posting to ITN (neither a news nor a trump ticker), but the larger story, if it develops in a way many journalists, legal scholars, and others are concerned with, would likely be one of those things we should post, just like with the tariffs. Its also possible this whole situation may resolve without any issues (in which case we'd not post). We're not blind to what's happening in the US Govt and know its making news but we should wait for something that is really significant to happen, representing a point of no return or similar line, to be what we post to ITN, not just a solitary development that gets wide coverage. Masem (t) 21:43, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: just internal US politics Cambalachero (talk) 22:11, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait: since it's just an injunction and the case is still pending. The actual case is more news worthy. Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose USA’s checks and balances system doing its job. Not enough notable for ITN. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:02, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as it is just a preliminary injunction and the case is still pending. Natg 19 (talk) 22:56, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:NTRUMP and the fact that this particular legal wrangle is just starting with no evidence so far showing this is in any way any more significant than all the other recent legal and political turmoil in the US. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:46, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Standard national court process, nothing noteworthy on an international stage. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Not important enough for ITN. Tradedia^talk 10:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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RD: George McMillan (politician)

Article: George McMillan (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AL.com
Credits:

• Nominated by Yoblyblob (talk · give credit)
• Updated by History6042 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Article has some length, could be a little longer but no citation issues. Former Lt. Gov of Alabama Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 17:57, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Support, it is long enough after my expansions. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:01, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN now. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:28, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

  Well, if it's not a stub any longer, you should remove the stub tag, MtPenguinMonster. However, that looks like a stub to me! Schwede66 01:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Still far too thin. Is it really being suggested this is the sort of article which deserves to be highlighted on the front page? 3142 (talk) 01:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  This is a nomination page; it is to be expected that a number of the candidates are not up to snuff just yet. This article isn't too far off from posting: a solid paragraph on his legislative career and another on his tenure as lieutenant governor (and maybe a bit of his post-political career, if known) should be sufficient. Curbon7 (talk) 05:55, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Russo-Ukraine ceasefire

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Article: Russo-Ukraine war (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russia announces a ceasefire with Ukraine in prison exchange deal. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-putin-declares-unilateral-easter-ceasefire-ukraine-2025-04-19/
Credits:

• Nominated by DotesConks (talk · give credit)

• Oppose According to the cited source it's meant to last only for this weekend, Ukraine has already rejected it, and Russia had made similar unilateral ceasefire declarations for this conflict in the past. While a well-intentioned nomination, it's clear that this ceasefire declaration won't have much long-term ramifications. Mount Patagonia (talk • contributions) 16:47, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Patagonia. — E_F⁵ 17:01, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

@Mount Patagonia I admit that I made this nomination just by looking at the headlines, but given Trump's pressure on Russia I really thought it would be a ceasefire. Just another case of "OMG LOOK HERE" DotesConks (talk) 16:56, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose and close per Mount Patagonia. Departure– (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

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April 18

Portal:Current events/2025 April 18

April 18, 2025 (2025-04-18) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis US–UK airstrikes on Yemen March–April 2025 United States attacks in Yemen The Houthis say that American airstrikes targeted the Ras Isa port in Yemen, killing 74 people and wounding 171 others. This marks the single-deadliest known attack under President Donald Trump's new campaign targeting the Houthis. (AP) Russian invasion of Ukraine Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announces that the Trump administration is ready to abandon diplomatic efforts and "move on" if it is not possible to end the war in "a matter of days". (CNN) Persecution of Ahmadis in Pakistan One man is killed in Karachi, Pakistan, after a mob of radical Islamists belonging to Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan attack the Ahmadiyya community after Friday prayer. (DW) Disasters and accidents The death toll of the fire and capsizing of the wooden boat HB Kongolo on the Congo River in Democratic Republic of the Congo three days ago rises to 148. Hundreds of others remain missing. (Reuters) Three people are killed when a Cessna 180 Skywagon crashes into the Platte River in Fremont, Nebraska, United States, just outside of Omaha. (KLKN) Three people, including a lay minister, are killed and seventeen others are injured when a car driven by an Indian national driving under the influence hits a tricycle and crashes into a procession in Bacolod, Philippines. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) The death toll of the capsized Hong Hai 16 sand barge three days ago off Occidental Mindoro, Philippines, rises to six. Five others are still missing. (GMA)

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(READY) RD: Stina Oscarson

Article: Stina Oscarson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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 BabbaQ (talk) 09:39, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Solid article. No issues. Grimes2 (talk) 18:48, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

  Does reference #2 confirm her date of birth? Reference #1 has the year only. Schwede66 01:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes it confirms her birthdate.BabbaQ (talk) 07:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  The month in the lead and infobox do no match. —Bagumba (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

   Fixed Grimes2 (talk) 15:14, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• May I suggest that English translations are provided for the numerous foreign language book titles in the prose? Schwede66 05:39, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

   Fixed.BabbaQ (talk) 07:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: Article could use some copyediting; the translations could benefit from being formatted with {{en}} templates; could use more depth about her theatre leadership roles (e.g. what does being one of the "theater leaders for the Orionteatern" entail?) IMO needs a little bit more work before this is ready. Spencer^T•C 04:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

   Fixed--BabbaQ (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Clodagh Rodgers

Article: Clodagh Rodgers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTÉ, Irish Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:65E2:9D15:F64E:9D6 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ErktheBerserker (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Northern Irish singer who represented the United Kingdom at the Eurovision Song Contest. 240F:7A:6253:1:65E2:9D15:F64E:9D6 (talk) 07:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support A distinctive and famous name which will work well in RD. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - needs plenty of additional sourcing.BabbaQ (talk) 15:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Nikola Pokrivač

Article: Nikola Pokrivač (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, Croatia Week
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C99E:58BC:C5A1:6E9C (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Croatian international professional footballer. 240F:7A:6253:1:C99E:58BC:C5A1:6E9C (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Unless my narrow phone is fooling me, this is good enough. Bremps... 03:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Unreferenced place and date of birth. Schwede66 05:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• Ping me when sourced and ready per above. And I support.BabbaQ (talk) 13:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Jennifer Toth

Article: Jennifer Toth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CAWylie (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: American journalist. Death reported 18 April. Thriley (talk) 03:15, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Although the article would benefit from some additional detail about her journalism career, it does have appropriate depth on her later works for which she is principally known; fully referenced. Marking ready. Spencer^T•C 04:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

April 17

Portal:Current events/2025 April 17

April 17, 2025 (2025-04-17) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Rafah offensive The Israel Defense Forces begins the expansion of the recently-established Morag Corridor buffer zone to include the southern Gaza city of Rafah, intending to connect it with the Philadelphi Corridor. Witnesses report the Israeli demolition of structures in Rafah. (Al Jazeera) (RBC Ukraine) At least 37 people, including children, are killed in a series of Israeli strikes against displaced Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, according to the Palestinian Civil Defence agency. (BBC News) Red Sea crisis March–April 2025 United States attacks in Yemen The United States Navy launches a wave of missile strikes across Houthi-controlled Yemen, killing at least one person in Sanaa. (AP) Somali Civil War 2025 Shabelle offensive, American military intervention in Somalia U.S. airstrikes kill twelve al-Shabaab insurgents in central Somalia, while a separate airstrike destroys an unflagged vessel suspected of carrying weapons for the militant group off the Somali coast. (Reuters) (Middle East Monitor) Disasters and accidents Kočani nightclub fire The death toll from the fire at a nightclub in Kočani, North Macedonia, in March increases to 62 as a burn victim dies in the hospital. (Sloboden Pečat) Monte Faito cable car crash Four people are killed and one is injured after the collapse of an aerial tramway on the Monte Faito in Campania, Italy. (Il Messaggero) The death toll of the capsized Hong Hai 16 two days ago off Occidental Mindoro, Philippines, rises to four. Seven others are still missing. (Philippine News Agency) A middle school student is killed and several others are injured when a school bus returning from a field trip blows a tire, strikes a guard rail, and overturns on Interstate 77 in Chester County, South Carolina, United States. Two other buses travelling back from the field trip maneuvered to avoid crashing into it. Between the three buses, at least 35 students and four adults were injured. (ABC News) Law and crime Tropic Air Flight 711 A hijacker is killed and three others are injured when a U.S. citizen hijacks a Tropic Air Cessna 208 Caravan and attacks passengers with a knife before being fatally shot by a passenger with a firearm at Philip S. W. Goldson International Airport in Belize City, Belize. (ABC News) (Airways) 2025 Florida State University shooting At least two people are killed and six others are hospitalized in a mass shooting at Florida State University in Tallahassee, Florida, United States. The suspect is arrested by local police. (AP) (The New York Times) (NBC News) Illegal drug trade in Turkey Turkish police detain 525 suspected drug dealers in Ankara, in what is the biggest narcotics operation in the country's history, involving thousands of officers, sniffer dogs, drones, and helicopters, according to the interior ministry. (AP) (Türkiye Today) The government of Myanmar pardons and releases 4,893 prisoners, including thirteen foreigners who will be deported from the country, and 22 political prisoners, ahead of the country's New Year. (DW) (Radio Free Asia) Two people are severely injured in a stabbing attack at an Aldi supermarket in Rochlitz, Saxony, Germany. (DW) Politics and elections Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen meets with Kilmar Abrego Garcia in El Salvador to push for his release after being denied a meeting hours earlier by the Salvadoran government. (Politico)

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(Reviewers needed) RD: Bill Aitken (writer)

Article: Bill Aitken (writer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Death announced 17 April. Thriley (talk) 16:55, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: Needs references. Spencer^T•C 04:08, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready Needs references. Grimes2 (talk) 13:39, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(READY) RD: Peter Ablinger

Article: Peter Ablinger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): nmz
Credits:

• Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit), Grimes2 (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Austrian composer who settled in Berlin and became a leader in experimental music running an ensemble, a publishing house, festivals, and teaching internationally. Good new refs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Referenced, appropriate depth. Marking "ready". Spencer^T•C 04:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Needs action @Admins willing to post ITN: Needs post today. Grimes2 (talk) 11:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joseph Thompson

Article: Joe Thompson (footballer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Abcmaxx (talk) 12:56, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support: Well cited article. Prodrummer619 (talk) 13:50, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Well-done article. Sad tale. Kicking222 (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: consensus seems to be that this can be posted now. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

  Could someone please provide a source for the date of birth that works, please? Or an archive URL? Schwede66 14:01, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

  Found dob in Rochdale Times. I hope, that's ok. Grimes2 (talk) 19:16, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

  Posted – Schwede66 01:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Fatma Hassona

Article: Fatma Hassona (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Euro News
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Οἶδα (talk · give credit) and Afonso Dimas Martins (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Palestinian photojournalist. The subject of the upcoming film Put Your Soul on Your Hand and Walk. Thriley (talk) 04:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Too stuby. Gotitbro (talk) 05:40, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Looks fine now. Support. Gotitbro (talk) 06:27, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is a stub. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:16, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - on the shorter side. But start class now. Sourced.BabbaQ (talk) 09:00, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose More information needed in the article. Currently too stubby. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 15:59, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support, well sourced, long enough for a RD. Alexcalamaro (talk) 07:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support looks long enough now Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:52, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• Unreferenced DoB. Schwede66 01:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Satisfactory length and quality. RIP. Bremps... 19:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Everything seems to check out, should be ready. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Is there a source for her age being 26 in the infobox? WP can't readily compute it without an exact birthdate.—Bagumba (talk) 15:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted And in a rather unusual "move" (excuse the pun), I've moved this article in the middle of a formal move request (see the RM if you are interested in the rationale). Schwede66 05:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) K2-18b likely teeming with microbial life

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Article: K2-18b (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Spectroscopic signatures of dimethyl sulphide and dimethyl disulphide detected on the exoplanet K2-18b by the James Webb Space Telescope can with current scientific knowledge, only be explained by the presence of microbial life (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Astrophyshical Journal Letters (peer review source)
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 We're at the analogous point in the early 1990s when the first exoplanets were discovered. We went from zero to a few and then a vast number of detected exoplanets. Similarly, we're likely going to end up with a vast number of confirmed exoplanets with lots of microbial life, the reason being that we now know that many of the detected exoplanets are so-called superhabitable worlds, where the conditions for life to thrive are much better than here on Earth. We now think of life being something special, but we'll soon find out that life is very common in the universe, and that complex life that exists here on Earth is special as that requires life having evolved on a non-superhabitable world where perturbations can cause severe stress and mass extinctions, leading to evolution of more complex organisms. Count Iblis (talk) 09:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work The discovery is interesting and in the news but life is not the only explanation on offer. The BBC source says, "Other research groups have put forward alternative, lifeless, explanations for the data obtained from K2-18b ... which highlights the strong scientific debate surrounding K2-18b." This is science in action, testing hypotheses against the data and continuing to refine the results. So, the blurb needs to convey the current state of the debate rather than presenting one side uncritically. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:25, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The phrase "only be explained by the presence of microbial life" is contradicted within the article per: "planetary scientist Sarah Hörst pointed to lab experiments that show DMS can be produced without life." While it deepens our understanding of this exoplanet and interesting in a vacuum, I feel like it's premature to say whether it is caused by microbial life or not. The uncertainties make me question whether it would be blurb-worthy, even NASA is cautious regarding the matter. Ornithoptera (talk) 09:46, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong oppose. Professional astronomer here. This team has claimed the same result before, which was widely criticised by other astronomers. The detection was discredited and the interpretation as a biosignature was disputed by most researchers working in the field. Now the team is claiming to detect the same molecule by a different method, which is useful, but it's still a marginal detection and the interpretation is still flawed. There is no evidence that this is related to life - DMS can be produced by abiotic processes. The press release and resulting coverage are ridiculously overblown. Modest Genius ^talk 10:19, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose an abundance of caution is needed here - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and all that - and there have been similar claims in the past. I'm reminded most directly of those claims of Venusian bio signatures of a few years ago, now generally regarded as debunked. Slightly more generally we posted the "discovery" of planet nine perhaps a decade ago, which looks a little premature with hindsight as it has still not been found. 3142 (talk) 11:44, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The peer reviewed paper lists both of these as "possible biosignature" but as others have pointed out there's non-biological sources for these too and the paper doesn't go anywhere as far to claim life. Finding these traces are not uncommon from what I understand so this is not as much of a breakthrough as suggested by blurb. Even the BBC article keeps far low key as to the significance here. Masem (t) 12:01, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A very poor and clearly unscientific nomination: life likely isn't the explanation; the highly speculative superhabitable world is presented as fact, the rest of the nominating comment is just as bit imaginative and fabulous. With this and the "dire wolf" nomination, makes one wonder what has happened to science communication. Gotitbro (talk) 12:02, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose per all opposes above me Shaneapickle (talk) 13:05, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, this doesn't mean that there's life there, and we should wait the 1-2 years for confirmation if there's life. Per many above, this does not indicate life and researchers have been skeptical about this. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 13:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Maybe sorta possibly a finding that may turn out to be something isn't breaking news. Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:29, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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(Closed) Expo 2025

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Article: Expo 2025 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Expo 2025 is opened in Osaka, Japan. (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo
Credits:

• Nominated by Rushtheeditor (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: World Expo is ITNR per se. Rushtheeditor (talk) 03:30, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work The lead still uses the future tense – "will be held" – and does not provide an adequate summary of the rest of the article. The Guardian reports that "The pavilions – and Fujimoto’s “sustainable” edifice – will be dismantled later this year to make way for Japan’s first casino." but the article does not include this discouraging fact. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Not ITNR I'm not seeing anything on the ITNR list to suggest this trade show, much less any trade show, is ITNR. Masem (t) 12:03, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
  • World's fair (aka Expo <year>) was on ITNR for many years, but was removed in 2021. Modest Genius ^talk 13:57, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose This is a bi-annual event that happens every 2 years and plus I am opposing this per @Masem this also falls under WP:NOTNEWS Shaneapickle (talk) 13:01, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

The main world's fair is once per 5 years but world's fairs aren't as big as they used to be (first one (1851 World's Fair) to at least 1964-5 inclusive) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:11, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

There was Expo 2023 in Argentina and there is scheduled to be an Expo 2027 in Belgrade, Serbia. It seems de facto biannual to me. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 18:40, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

World's fair#Types says the ones between the 5 year ones have scale/cost restrictions like 25 hectares+0.1 hectares per country. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:22, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. Not seeing much front-page or in-depth coverage in the most prominent sources, which implies to me that it is a relatively standard biannual event with little enduring notability or impact. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 18:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. This is a routine event with little coverage and no major announcements or distinctions. The article is all minor details, with no obvious impact. I can't see anything special about it that might merit posting on ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 19:15, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per the above; the claim that this is part of a coherent series going back to the 1851 Great Exhibition seems ahistorical to me. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:38, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

  That's what the Bureau International des Expositions says. They just lost importance over time. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

I don't see how an organisation founded in 1928, with no predecessor founded earlier than 1902, can say definitively that an event in 1851 was part of the series it oversees. GenevieveDEon (talk) 07:12, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - I don't see how this is news. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 02:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

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