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Fails WP:NEVENT. Coverage is largely WP:ROUTINE, of a legal nature, not analytical, and not sustained. Vandalism is also not a kind of crime that, in most cases, results in notability proving coverage. Merge into The Base (hate group)? PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Judaism, Michigan, and Wisconsin. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I think it appears to have some coverage which does not seem routine to me, if this is routine, that is pretty tragic. [Far right network orchestrated synagogue attacks, FBI says][1][2][3] Andre🚐 03:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it's crediting that to the FBI, there is no unique analysis in any of those articles, and it's also only two months later, except for routine legal proceedings, WP:PRIMARYNEWS. Antisemitic vandalism is very common. It making the news is also very common. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- FBI saying it was orchestrated goes to it not being run-of-the-mill hate vandalism. It also made it into this book and this one. These articles [4], [5] and this [6] show that it kept getting coverage over time for whatever reason. Andre🚐 03:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- How long is the book coverage, and what is it in the context of? It won't load for me. The forward article is trial stuff and the other two are local. They're sustained though so that's a little better. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Page 314 of Koehler (which is Cambridge University Press) and page 238 of Payne, the former cites the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel from 2020, the latter cites the Justice Department website press release. I cannot see the whole page just a snippet, but I can check to see if those books are kicking around a library or any other way to read them in full to read the surrounding context, but it is enough for me already that for 3-4 years this series of events is being covered somehow. I agree the Forward is a trial article but based on the content of it, plus the linked Ynet article that they cite which is dead for me right now but I will try to track down, I wouldn't call it WP:ROUTINE which if you read is about run-of-the-mill events like scheduled events or usually I think of product announcements. It does not automatically say all trial articles are routine coverage. Standard crime coverage would be routine like maybe something like this: [7] When the FBI is saying it is an orchestrated domestic terrorist group and people are using it as an example of an extremism trend in the US that is very not routine in my view. Andre🚐 03:30, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Trial coverage is almost always... well, maybe routine isn't the right word, but primary? It contains no analysis and is uniformly just repeating the legal arguments. In cases where the trial is analyzed or the crime that is another thing, but that does not seem to be happening here. If you see more of what is in the books ping me. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:53, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Page 314 of Koehler (which is Cambridge University Press) and page 238 of Payne, the former cites the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel from 2020, the latter cites the Justice Department website press release. I cannot see the whole page just a snippet, but I can check to see if those books are kicking around a library or any other way to read them in full to read the surrounding context, but it is enough for me already that for 3-4 years this series of events is being covered somehow. I agree the Forward is a trial article but based on the content of it, plus the linked Ynet article that they cite which is dead for me right now but I will try to track down, I wouldn't call it WP:ROUTINE which if you read is about run-of-the-mill events like scheduled events or usually I think of product announcements. It does not automatically say all trial articles are routine coverage. Standard crime coverage would be routine like maybe something like this: [7] When the FBI is saying it is an orchestrated domestic terrorist group and people are using it as an example of an extremism trend in the US that is very not routine in my view. Andre🚐 03:30, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep given these sources. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:51, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- How long is the book coverage, and what is it in the context of? It won't load for me. The forward article is trial stuff and the other two are local. They're sustained though so that's a little better. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- FBI saying it was orchestrated goes to it not being run-of-the-mill hate vandalism. It also made it into this book and this one. These articles [4], [5] and this [6] show that it kept getting coverage over time for whatever reason. Andre🚐 03:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it's crediting that to the FBI, there is no unique analysis in any of those articles, and it's also only two months later, except for routine legal proceedings, WP:PRIMARYNEWS. Antisemitic vandalism is very common. It making the news is also very common. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Discrimination and Terrorism. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)