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AA

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Btw, as you finished that last one,you can start the next one. Difficultly north (talk) The artist formerly known as Simply south 13:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done! Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 23:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced

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A kitten for you!

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For your work on the Wikipedia movies, you have received a kitten! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Your kitten must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Blocking bots

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Please do not make mass edits to undo blocking of specific bots on articles you don't edit. That template exists for a reason when a specific bot is not improving a certain article. (t · c) buidhe 20:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Preventing Citation bot from improving these articles is directly harmful. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 20:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You've now made 2 reverts on Armenian genocide denial which is a 1RR article. So here I'll slap you with the obligatory edit warring template:
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.

FYI the template is applied to prevent the bot messing with existing citation templates. (t · c) buidhe 20:52, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You mean fixing existing citation templates. Whoops, my bad on the 1RR part. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 20:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please stop. Citation bot is deliberately blocked on those articles because it does more damage than good in those instances. DrKay (talk) 20:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[citation needed] Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 20:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I demonstrated why in the edit summary of the revert: removing valid page numbers. Note also: changing citation style contrary to WP:CITEVAR. It is Wikipedia:Disruptive editing to continue with a series of edits after being asked to stop. DrKay (talk) 20:58, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If there's a specific reason to block Citation bot on a particular page, it should be spelled out so that people know why Citation bot is temporarily being blocked from the page, and so that it can be immediately unblocked once the issue has been resolved; additionally, comment-blocking Citation bot from fixing the specific problematic citation (as detailed at User:Citation bot#Stopping the bot from editing) allows the bot to be kept away from that particular citation without preventing it from cleaning up refs on the rest of the page. (Also, when you have knowledge of a particular bug in Citation bot's reffixing, you should submit a bug report at User talk:Citation bot, so the bug can be fixed.) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 21:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
People do not always agree with Citation bot's default functioning. One man's feature is another man's bug. WP:CITEVAR says that the citation style established in article should not be changed unilaterally—such as by running citation bot over the article to change it. (t · c) buidhe 22:35, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here you are restoring a version that links to copyright violations. Please stop. (t · c) buidhe 03:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And here's a revert of a bad bot edit that introduced faulty page number formatting. You are welcome to restore the good edits manually, but stop unblocking the bot from articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:42, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing any introduction of bad page-number formatting there, just the replacement of two hyphenated page-number ranges with en-dashed ones (the style called for by the MOS, by the way). Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 01:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the source in question you will see that it actually uses hyphens in its page numbering, so "3-4" and "3-7" are each single pages, not ranges. I agree with my colleagues here and below: tools aren't perfect, you need to take care when using them and not assume that any objection to their use is wrong. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not make cosmetic edits

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This and this are WP:Cosmetic edits because it does not change the reader's view of the article. You are not supposed to be making cosmetic edits without a good reason since all they do is clog people's watchlist and waste time. (t · c) buidhe 00:11, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And this edit broke an anchor. Please be more careful with tools; just because a tool recommends an edit does not mean that it is valid or a good idea. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:28, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please preview your changes before saving, to ensure that you are doing something useful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:30, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert Koch and cholera

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It is perfectly right to say Robert Koch discovered the causative agent of cholera, and there is no need to delete "cholera" in the article. It is true that Filippo Pacini had discovered the bacterium earlier, but it should be noted that he (Pacini) failed to recognise it as the cholera pathogen. Thus, it was Koch who established the bacterium as the agent of cholera by rediscovering the bacterium in cholera patients. If you want to know more, please read my other contribution Vibrio cholerae (discovery section) where the story is elaborately discussed. Chhandama (talk) 03:53, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Rapid fire"

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Actually, those represent many hours of single submissions, which were delayed by your and the other big users' batch jobs. It looks like your most recent batch is going now, probably ahead of some of my requests from hours ago. Abductive (reasoning) 03:23, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You could always collect all those individual requests into a batch job - like @BrownHairedGirl: and I do - and have it only take up a single bot channel instead of potentially several at once. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 13:14, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Abductive has been asked repeatedly to stop making requests until the previous one has finished, but as with all the rest of Abductive's disruption, the IDHT problem dominates. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:18, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I do kinda see where they're coming from - when you put in a toolbar request and it's taking a while and you've got a lot of other pages you want to run the bot on, it's really tempting to just pile on the others and trust that they'll all eventually go through. (I used to do that myself - I remember once when I had dozens and dozens of individual toolbar runs pending at once, enough to warrant a whole Chrome window of their own.) But I also know now that piling up requests like that is really, really disruptive to other users, since it clogs up the bot's four channels (thanx, BrownHairedGirl, for pointing that out to me), which is why I don't do that anymore - a point that Abductive doesn't seem to have grasped, given that they keep on doing it! Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 13:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I will do as you suggest, and only request groups of articles henceforth. It will probably not solve the load problems. Abductive (reasoning) 14:04, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It will probably help alleviate them, though. Thank you. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 14:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a load problem. It is a bottleneck problem, created by a failure to recognise the effects of rapid-fire individual requests. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:02, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"David Cleary" listed at Redirects for discussion

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I assured you, AManWithNoPlan perfectly understands the request without seeing diffs of what the bot screwed up. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, OK. (Did you mean to use the past tense there?) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 20:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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If it's any consolation, I also had trouble finishing the crossword when we trialed it before publication. You can see the clues that stumped me and one other editor at the newsroom archive. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri: That does make me feel better, thanx!  :-) The ones I haven't been able to get yet are 4, 5, 10, 13, 16, 18, 19, and 22 - and I see that most of those were the same ones that gave you and Ezlev trouble when playtesting. (Also, the clue for 15 should probably say "banish from view" rather than "banished from view"; the tense mismatch tripped me up for the longest time on that one and I had to guess around a bit to get the right answer.) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 01:35, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry

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I asked someone a question about the Wikipedia movies, and now all the Wikipedia movies are up for deletion.

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:JulieMinkai/Planning for seventh Wikipedia movie

Minkai(rawr!)(see where I screwed up) 12:19, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JulieMinkai: I'm backing them up on the Wayback Machine as we speak; this should allow us to restore them offsite if we want to after they get deleted here. (If that fails, I've also downloaded backup copies to my personal machine.) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching BettyAverted crashes 19:32, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Whoop whoop pull up/Wikipedia III: Revenge of Jimbo, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Whoop whoop pull up/Wikipedia III: Revenge of Jimbo and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Whoop whoop pull up/Wikipedia III: Revenge of Jimbo during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Dronebogus (talk) 12:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Whoop Whoop Pull Up

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Are you from TAMU whoop whoop? I like your name! 47.218.245.77 (talk) 10:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ambigous UTF-8

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Really? What sequences are these?

To my understanding, since UTF-8 ASCII bytes are only used as ASCII bytes, and UTF-8 lead bytes are only used as lead bytes, a byte boundary is a character boundary if and only if the byte after the boundary is an ASCII byte, UTF-8 lead byte, or end of the stream. It is plausible that that might make the preceding character truncated or otherwise invalid in a corrupt or truncated UTF-8 stream, but the error is confined to that character, and the boundary detection still works.

Character boundary here of course refers to code point boundary, not to grapheme cluster boundary (which is much less rigorously definable, the nominal definitions can change between Unicode versions, and the de facto ones can even differ between fonts; this has nothing to do with UTF-8 ASCII compatibility).

Unless you're talking about mixed UTF-8 and Windows-1252 (which is not valid UTF-8), or UTF-8 with ECMA-35 8-bit representation of C1 controls (which noöne uses afaik, and also isn't valid UTF-8, UTF-8 being classified as an "other coding system with standard return" in ECMA-35 terms)?

HarJIT (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A simple example would be a a continuous string of null characters, which comes out as a continuous run of 0s with no indication of boundaries. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 15:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Right, so we're clearly talking at cross-purposes (self-synchronising for indexing a byte array, versus transmitting a bit array). Got it. --HarJIT (talk) 09:43, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Anchors in section titles MUST be substituted

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This was a new one on me, but then I would have expected an embedded anchor in a section title to cause referencing problems in any case. What I've been doing is this technique:

===Adoption ===
{{anchor|Timeline}}
lorem ipsum


Does that achieve the same result as your span technique, or is it just as bad as the original ===Adoption {{anchor|Timeline}} === ? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Anchor/doc recommends substing the anchor in the section title (for instance, ===Adoption {{subst:anchor|Timeline}}===, which becomes ===Adoption <span class="anchor" id="Timeline"></span>=== when saved), as placing the anchor on the line after the section title causes links to the anchor to jump to just below the section, hiding it from view. In any case, if an anchor is placed in the section title itself, it MUST be substituted. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 17:43, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
TYVM, I've been applying monkey see monkey do for years without a second thought, never occurred to me to RTFM. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:14, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Archiving sources before they die

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Hello! I notice that you're often the one who makes suggestions for the IA bot to archive sources and I have to ask, how do we determine what sources need to be archived before they die and what sources don't? I noticed that you made a suggestion for the IA bot to run on Slime Rancher and it archived 3 sources. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:05, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Blaze Wolf
I think if you run articles though "batch job" (like what Whoop has done), it will only add archive links to ones that are already dead. To preempt archive you need to go through one by one on the article with IABot. Rlink2 (talk) 00:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rlink2: Yep. I've figured that out now. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Preemptive archiving of sources

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I think you may be confusing pre-emptive archiving of sources (making sure that archive.org has a saved copy) with pre-emptively adding the archive links to articles. The first is useful, though rarely necessary these days: per WP:PLRT, Links added by editors to the English Wikipedia mainspace are automatically saved to Wayback Machine within about 24 hours. Only in certain situations (developing news stories likely to change, saving a specific version of a page, etc) where you wish to archive immediately, or where archive.org doesn't properly save the page, is there a need to do it yourself.

Pre-emptively adding the archive links to the article, on the other hand, is not useful outside those specific situations. It increases the page loading time, the length of the wikitext (thus making editing more difficult), the amount of text in the citations (making them more difficult to read), and the length of scrolling required, while offering no additional benefit to the reader. If you're particularly concerned that some links in an article haven't been archived, you can always do the full archiving like you did on the GLX article, then self-revert to avoid the page bloat. IAbot will add the archive links as needed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:05, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535: Were you meaning to reply to me or were to talking to Whoop? Just curious cause your response seems to be in response to my question, but you mentioned that I did full archiving on an article called "GLX" (which I don't recall having edited). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Blaze Wolf: Just to WWPU, though on a very similar subject! Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: Your name is difficult to type out but correct Ah ok! I was tempted to merge the sections since it seemed like you were replying to me but didn't do so because you mentioned full archiving on the "GLX" article which, as I said, I don't recall ever editing. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:49, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: I take a v different view on pre-emptive archiving, i.e. I am strongly in favour of it.
  1. IAbot's automatic archiving began only in 2015. Earlier links still benefit from pre-emptive archiving
  2. Even with newer links, the sooner they are archived the better, because that way it is more likely that the archived version is the one used when writing the article
  3. IAbot's adding of archiving links is at best haphazard and slow. I encounter many links which have been dead for years, but not archived, so it is wrong to assert that IAbot will be round in a jiffy to add archives. That may be aim, but it's not the reality.
  4. The additional page length is a trivial issue when downloading. The archive markup is highly compressible, and since even the biggest pages grow by only about 30kB with archived links, that's less than 10kB extra to download. which is trivial when compared with images.
So I strongly encourage pre-emptive archiving, because it offers huge benefits to both readers and editors. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly seconded! Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 16:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: @Blaze Wolf
I understand that there has been discussion regarding preemptive archiving, however the people that oppose this usually say "Well if the page is already archived at Wayback as soon as its added, then we only need to add it when the link is actually dead!". Here are some things to consider:
  • Yes, the Wayback machine does auto crawl every link on Wikipedia, but there are many websites that did or do not work with the Wayback machine. For these sites there will be a broken or blank site archive. Notably, Wayback could not archive Youtube videos for quite some time.
There are other sites that are able to archive these websites (archive.today and ghostarchive.org in particular), but they only archive stuff per request, from what I know. So if it isn't for someone preemptively archiving these "no-Wayback" sites, once they are dead, the content basically can not be recovered.
We have already seen this with many of the Youtube and Instagram links on here - there are a significant porition of permanently dead links from those sites. If someone had preemptively archived them all before hand, then we wouldn't have had those permadead links.
  • Some sources may be paywalled or loginwalled. An archived link is a way of providing a bypass around the paywall while preserving the content, which is important for Wikipedia:Verifiability: the addition of an archived link along with the original link ensures that anyone can access the content while respecting the wishes and hard work of the publisher.
  • More links die than IABot can keep up with, so if a reader comes across a dead link and the cite is archived preempteively, they can simply click on the "archived on" link in the cite template, instead of hunting for a copy themselves. In addition, many article writers are already adding archived links as soon as their articles go live.
  • It increases the page loading time, please read Wikipedia:Don't_worry_about_performance. Rlink2 (talk) 18:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"In addition, many article writers are already adding archived links as soon as their articles go live." Me, for instance. In fact, I add archivelinks to mine even before they go live (while they're still userspace drafts). Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 20:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Me too, Whoop. I regard archiving as a core part of good referencing, because it guarantees that anyone else can verify my work by accessing the source exactly as it was when I accessed it. And, y'know WP:Verifiability is a core policy. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. In fact, usually when I encounter a page with just 1 dead link, I go to IAbot and have it archive all the links it can on the page which will not only save that dead link and possibly find others, but it will also save all the other links on the page. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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You added the publication year to a cite in Mountain Meadows Massacre(using Citation bot) with this edit & I just wanted to say thanks, Shearonink (talk) 04:05, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I literally popped in just to say that I like your username; that made my day! Happy Editing! Kehkou (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx! :-) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 23:33, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bugs in Citation bot should be taken up with the bot's maintainers, not with the people suggesting articles for it to edit. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 09:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is the first time I handled this issue and the editors at Discord have already given me insights about this matter. Thank you for your time in dealing with this bug. Centcom08 (talk) 09:37, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi -- I just undid this edit by Citation bot -- the relevant website is isfdb.org, not sfdb.org. The edit summary says you were the editor who triggered the edit. I'm not familiar with how the bot works, so I can't tell if this is an error in Citation bot's database in some way, or just a typo -- is this something that could happen with other Citation bot edits? Or is it a one-off? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Probably an error in the database; I'd recommend filing a bug report on Citation bot's talkpage. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 09:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; have done so. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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You triggered the citation bot on Donald Trump to replace "work" with "newspaper". Please be advised that work is a shorter alternative for newspaper and that page size is a concern on a page with more than 800 cites. I undid the change. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 09:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please refer to User_talk:Citation_bot#Automatic_cite_magazine_conversions before you continue using the citation bot for MCU related articles. -- Zoo (talk) 21:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to strongly disagree with your characterization of my edit as "unconstructive"; see the comment I left on your talk page for further explanation. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 04:14, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In this edit Citation bot, run by you, made the changes "Alter: title, pages. Add: website, doi. Formatted dashes." In this edit, 19 hours later, Citation bot, run by you, made the changes "Add: isbn.".

Did you run the bot with different option to get it to add the ISBN in the second edit when it didn't do so in the first edit? Was this the result of timeouts in the first run causing it to quit looking at URLs before it got to the one where it added the ISBN in the second run? Was it the result of a change to the bot between the runs? Or was it something else? (I'm trying to see if there are other knobs I can turn or switches I can flip when running the bot, to get as much work done as possible.) Guy Harris (talk) 21:08, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really sure why that sort of stuff happens (you'd have to ask AManWithNoPlan for that sort of technical explanation), only that it sometimes does. As for why the bot ran on the same page twice in the first place, I ran Citation bot on one category, and, then, later, on a subcategory of the former category; it appears that that particular page happened to be a member of both the category and its subcategory. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 22:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Attack submarine: SSK why?

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Just saw your 'Why?' tag. Question: does it apply to the 'in shallow water' phrase or to the entire sentence? Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 19:14, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The whole sentence. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 19:35, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so may I ask: why is the rest of the sentence unclear? Why is the relative description of the two classes of submarines (the SSN which is faster and deeper-diving than the SSK, and air independent to boot) not enough to convey that the SSK would not be able to find and sink the SSN except by chance? I think that says it all, unless you think we need to get into a description of how temperature gradients at depth affect passive sonar, and how torpedoes of the day were slower than the SSNs and could not vary their depth much. BTW, the 'at shallow depth' phrase is what raises other issues: the SSN has to slow down and has less room to maneuver, the SSK is more vulnerable to counterattack and would have to travel farther than to the planned deepwater patrol areas around Iceland (a real problem for a deliberately small sub), etc, etc.
Given all this, do you really think a massive re-write is necessary? I mean, I'm game to try, but I think it might really unbalance the article - I'm also thinking it might be a better fit in the SSK article. Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 20:55, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I have no idea why you are special. You are now exempt from the "too many big jobs" policy, since I cannot figure out what is going on. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx, and apologies if it came across as me demanding your attention re: Citation bot (I meant to inform, not [so much] to pester). Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 16:57, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The alternative (not telling us) is worse. People have come up to complain about a problem "that has existed for years". 17:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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I'm assuming that the reason your name is attached to edits by IABot (v2.0.9.2) is because you have something to do with how it works. FYI: it tagged 4 links in a bio as being dead and unable to find archives. But I found the archive copies. IABot (v2.0.9.2) cannot be trusted, and if it cannot perform a comprehensive search for archives it may be ruining references in articles. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 09:07, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's because I happened to be the one to feed those particular pages into the InternetArchiveBot interface. I have nothing to do with the design or operation of the bot other than being one of its (many many) users; if you've found a problem, submit a bug report at the bot's Meta talkpage, not here. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 09:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Pyxis Solitary: FYI this is due to archive.ph/archive.today sucking at the moment and making IABot think all archives on it are dead with its responses. See T320969 for more information --Nintendofan885T&Cs apply 03:04, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Whoop, if you've got a moment would you mind running your magic software over Deptford Cattle Market to correct the citation references. I don't know how to do it, or I would. ThanksTtocserp 10:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not my software; I just use the thing. If you want to talk to the people whose software it is, leave a message at User talk:Citation bot. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 10:12, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.Ttocserp

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Citation bot

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Just a gentle reminder: when you run Citation bot, you should manually check the changes it makes. On the recent run of MBTA articles, there were about 15 edits that needed reverting, primarily due to obviously incorrect metadata. (Examples: Special:Diff/1127622984 and Special:Diff/1127616555.) Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:38, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding this. Lots of cosmetic bot changes that are going through for no reason. Please do not run them off a single userpage's links, as it absolutely floods the watchlist. SounderBruce 06:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here to third this comment. Citation bot frequently introduces errors in short-footnote citations (generated by the {{sfn}} and {{harv}} template families), and so any time that you run citation bot on an article that uses short footnotes you need to check manually that it has not introduced errors. I've just reverted this edit for example, which made a complete hash of the references in a featured article. I understand that checking each of the bot's edits is a lot of tedious work, but unfortunately citation bot is not written carefully enough to be trusted without manual checking. Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 15:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wham2001: ...What errors did the bot introduce in that edit? All the changes I see that it made appear to have been good ones (anonymizing links, adding title/author/date information, etc.). Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 16:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Short footnote multiple-target errors. You can see them as red error messages next to many of the references in the version edited by the bot, unless you have their display suppressed. The reason for this is that the templates that generate short-footnote form citations ({{sfn}}, {{harvnb}}, etc.) link to the associated bibliographic information in long-form citations using the authors and date. Citation bot's edit meant that there were two such possible targets for each references, and the software that does the linking can't work out which one to link to. The fact that the article had duplicate bibliographic information in the first point wasn't citation bot's fault, but the correct solution (either merging the {{cite web}} templates with the {{cite book}} templates, or – as I opted for – removing the duplicate {{cite web}} templates entirely) can only be ascertained by inspecting the article. In an ideal world citation bot would refuse to make an edit which causes an article to be added to Category:Harv and Sfn multiple-target errors or Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors, but I don't know how easy it would be for the developers to make such a change. Wham2001 (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wham2001: Have you tried submitting a bug report on the bot's talkpage? That way, the developers might well be able to update the bot to fix that situation, and, if they can't, at least you'll know. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 19:53, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea – I'll do that. But perhaps tomorrow when I'm more awake Best, Wham2001 (talk) 21:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wham2001: I'd do it myself, but you seem to understand the problem considerably better than I do. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 22:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done at User talk:Citation bot#Citation bot on articles with shortened footnotes. Best, Wham2001 (talk) 08:36, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 10:27, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are you stalking my user page?

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Please explain this edit summary. Because on the face of it, it looks to me like a bad-faith assumption about the quality of my user page. At best it is a very poor choice of how to spend bot resources, as most of the links there are to Good Articles not in significant need of citation repair. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:55, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, I'll refrain from doing linked-page runs from your userpage in future. (That makes your userpage a rather unusual case - most userpages have a lot of links to ripe-for-citation-repair articles in userboxen and stuff.) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 22:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is a bit funny, I just came here to ask the same question! Not that I care, I just didn't realize that CB operated like that. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 02:35, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some recent Citation Bot edits that you enabled

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seem to be in error as they have added publication dates to undated material, see a Ramsdell Theatre edit and a Benjamin Franklin Graves (soldier) edit. I have reverted your changes (I think at one article a single-space edit got caught in my revert) but I wanted you to know why your edits were reverted. If I was wrong about the dates, let me know. Shearonink (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Shearonink: Thanx for the heads-up; I've submitted a bug report about this. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 21:19, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, thanks to the bug report you filed it looks like what I thought was a Citation bug/issue is actually based on information hidden within the html code that can date web content. Who knew! I sure as heck didn't...from now on anytime I come across web content that appears undated I can either run Citation bot on it or look "under the hood" at the page's mechanics. Shearonink (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

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Hello, Whoop whoop pull up! I am very glad to see that you added Template:User No Neo-Confederates to your userpage. Having that in mind, I must ask you to consider endorsing a closely related essay, WP:NOCONFED, in which creation I participated. Of course, this is just a suggestion, nothing more. Cheers! — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 12:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for catching the apostrophe. 🖖🏻 —DaydreamBelizer (chat) 22:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoop Whoop

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Saw you running InternetArchiveBot and just wanted to let you know that I very much enjoy your username. Reminds me of Capybara meme and I start singing it to myself, although I very much recognize it's more than likely an aviation reference. Skipple 01:07, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx! :-) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 01:30, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Bad source

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Just a heads-up, the guidechem website, which you hvae in one of the refs on User:Whoop_whoop_pull_up/Interpnictogen, is headed for blacklisting. I didn't want to edit a non-public draft or personal-use page, but you should remove that link soon (if that page is still worth keeping) so it doesn't cause problems in future edits. DMacks (talk) 20:31, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx! :-) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 21:00, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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InternetArchiveBot and category listings

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Hi,

I have a way to make iabot runs on category listings a bit more efficient by avoiding visits to the single-character articles A, B, etc. In Excel, I paste the contents of a category's list of articles into column A. I then add the formula =LEN(A1) to B1 and drag it down so that I have a column of lengths. Then I sort downwards on column B, so that all the single-character article names are at the bottom and can be removed from the list before submitting it to iabot. If more than one category has been copied into your spreadsheet, you can then sort column A alphabetically, which will make any duplicate names more obvious so that they can be removed from the list before submitting it to iabot. This isn't necessary all the time, but it saves iabot from visiting A, B, etc. multiple times a day. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 21:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx for the tip; does it work on LibreOffice Calc? (I don't have Excel.) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 23:57, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALS Good Article Nomination

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Hey there wiki-buddy! I'm hoping I can attract some interested folks to consider reviewing the Wikipedia page about amyotrophic lateral sclerosis for Good Article status. As you may know, ALS is a rare and fatal neurodegenerative disease that quickly causes people to lose the ability to move, speak, and breathe. The Wikipedia page about ALS is read over 2,000 times each day in English alone, and often experiences spikes in traffic whenever a celebrity is diagnosed. There have recently been a number of genetic advances made in the space and some recent drug approvals, thanks in part to the momentum started by the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. I've been grinding away at it since early this year but keen to see it improve further, hope you'll consider! PaulWicks (talk) 08:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoop whoop pull up

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Just wanted to stop by and say you have the coolest username I have ever seen on English Wikipedia. That is all! GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 04:30, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aww, thanx! 😊 Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 13:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I came here to say the same! - AquilaFasciata (talk | contribs) 16:17, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
😊 Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 22:31, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Same! Notrealname1234 (talk) 01:12, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thx 😊 Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 03:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Donald Trump

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I noticed that you have sent a bot to Donald Trump to change "work" to "newspaper" several times recently (Sep 3, Aug 30, Jun 12). You also sent the bot to add archive-urls to urls that are not dead.

Size is a concern in this very long article. "Work" is an alternative for "newspaper", "magazine", etc, and the consensus parameter title on the page, and there is an express consensus against web archives for live sources — see [Talk:Donald_Trump#Current_consensus current consensus], #25, "Do not add web archives to cited sources which are not dead." Other editors and me have been reverting these changes, and I, for one, would appreciate it if you could take Donald Trump off the bot's to-do or target or whatever list. Space4Time3Continuum2x (cowabunga) 11:42, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Space4Time3Continuum2x You should say this to the bot's maintainers. Notrealname1234 (talk) 16:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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quacker !kurukitty! (talk) 01:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Distance 50km at speed 3x105km/s needs 1.7 -4s. Mean lifetime = 2.2x10-6s . Cheers - DVdm (talk) 10:12, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pull up pull up

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A+ username

I can hear it in my head. I heard it as soon as I saw the username.

That is all. Test35965 (talk) 04:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thx! 🤭 Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 04:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also couldn't help but hear the username in my head… along with bank angle - bank angle. 👍 from a queer Minnesotan :) SunTunnels (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC) SunTunnels (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
🤭🤭 Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 20:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi.

I just saw that you activated the citation bot for the page Conversion to Christianity. Can you please do the same for Christianity in India which has bare URLs? I tried using it but the bot didn't work for me.

Thanks! Ciao! 106.79.197.124 (talk) 16:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that should help! Y'welks! Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 19:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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So I recently got a draft undeleted from the G13 stuff and when I went on to add some images, Wikimedia Commons said that the image is being used by your userspace so I saw your userspace and it had so much more information that the draft I got undeleted. I also noticed that your draft was last edited on April 25, 2022, so I'm here to say that are you still gonna work on it? If not, can I use all the information from it? Thanks. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 03:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead! :-) Whoop whoop pull up ♀️ Bitching Betty 🏳️‍⚧️ Averted crashes ⚧️ 22:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 23:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi WWPU, this edit is another example why it's important for you to personally check any IABot edits you initiate. The bot replaced a live archival link with an archived 404 page. If I hadn't caught that, it would have become a permanent dead link. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535: I made a similar complaint here two weeks ago which was... well... you can read it here.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 00:27, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect 🫃 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 14 § 🫃 until a consensus is reached. LIrala (talk) 04:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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