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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nano-I-beam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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COI page where the only on-topic source (DOI:10.1038/s41598-019-53588-2) is the originators own paper which has 10 citations since 2019 according to GS. None of the other sources are on topic, and most of the page is either on standard nanotubes or macroscopic beams (some careful reading is needed). This type of advertising of an editor's own work is not what Wikipedia is for. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete This article is very carefully disguised puffery of a single paper (Elmoselhy 2019), which has been cited all of twice by PubMed-indexed journals (Google Scholar's higher number isn't surprising, they index all kinds of junk). The other references cited are all about other topics, such as structural I-beams used in construction, all trying to inflate the importance of this one rather obscure research article. I have no patience for this kind of thing. If there's ever a comprehensive review article on nano I-beams, maybe we can have an article. But until then, WP isn't for boosting one's CV. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:31, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete: From the article the following sources (given the number they have in the article as proposed for deletion) - 1 (can be fully accessed with the wikilibrary), 4, 9, and 10.
Of these neither 9 nor 10 discuss nanobeams or nano-I-beams, at best they discuss nano-tubes.
Source 1 is on methods of analysis and does mention nanobeams. However using a graphic from a review of modelling and analysing nanostructures, I believe that nanobeams are a larger category that may also include Nano-I-beams. Hence I don’t think 1 conveys notability.
This leaves 4, which seems to meet the criteria such that it could help convey notability, but as previously mentioned it is barely cited. Finally I found another scientific paper, from the same author as 4, which could convey notability, but is cited even less.
I therefore conclude that while 2 sources exist that could convey notability, they don’t actually do so due to how little notice/use they have had from the scientific community (reflected in how little they are cited). Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 14:21, 13 July 2025 (UTC) - Delete for the reasons described above.--Srleffler (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as promotion of non-notable work. Incidentally, the work being promoted was published in Scientific Reports, which is not a journal we should take seriously. Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction (talk) 23:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Shafik Quoraishee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There's no significant independent coverage or profiles in reliable media to satisfy WP:GNG. Shafik Quoraishee is mentioned in primary or self-published sources (personal website, LinkedIn, Medium) and event listings. Icem4k (talk) 20:44, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Here is also his work at Nieman lab: https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/01/how-the-new-york-times-is-building-experimental-handwriting-recognition-for-its-crosswords-app/, which is a significant and notable publication. And also at the Brave Technologist where he was interviewed: https://brave.com/podcast/e71/.
- The NYT Open Platform is maintained by the New York Times, where his work is mentioned. https://open.nytimes.com/developing-an-internal-tool-for-our-puzzle-editor-d5dc7a9a6464
- He's also mentioned on The New York Times Games wikipedia. The New York Times Games Meester king (talk) 20:50, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I vote to Keep, based on the above additional sources and notes. Meester king (talk) 21:00, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. There don't seem to be enough independent sources that cover his person for us to have an article. Notability according to WP:NPROF doesn't seem to apply either; I can find a Shafik Quoraishee who has published a few papers, but nothing nearly prominent enough to meet those criteria. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 10:54, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete but willing to change my mind: I don't see multiple secondary, independent, reliable sources with in-depth coverage of the subject in the current references. If someone who was involved in the article wants to take a look, I recommend providing WP:Three sources as a starting point and we can go from there. Caleb Stanford (talk) 20:55, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand your concern, and I appreciate your willingness to reconsider. To help clarify why Shafik Quoraishee meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for biographies (WP:BIO), here are three independent, reliable, and secondary sources that offer significant coverage of his work—not passing mentions or trivial inclusions:
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- 1. Nieman Journalism Lab (Harvard), Jan 17, 2024
- Title: How The New York Times is building experimental handwriting recognition for its Crosswords app
- Link: https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/01/how-the-new-york-times-is-building-experimental-handwriting-recognition-for-its-crosswords-app/
- This article profiles an engineering effort led by Quoraishee to build an ML handwriting system for NYT’s Crossword app.
- It covers technical architecture (CNNs, on-device inference), product decisions, and his role in implementation.
- Nieman Lab is editorially independent of the NYT and widely regarded as a reliable source on media and tech.
- ✅ Independent ✅ Secondary ✅ Reliable ✅ Substantial focus on subject
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- 2. Droidcon NYC – Official Speaker Listing (2025)
- Link: https://nyc.droidcon.com/speakers/shafik-quoraishee
- Shafik is listed as a speaker at this major developer conference, where he presented on ML-based handwriting input for NYT Crossword using TensorFlow Lite.
- The profile includes professional background (11+ years Android dev, prior roles at NBA/Business Insider) and links to related publications.
- ✅ Independent ✅ Secondary ✅ Reliable ✅ Professional recognition
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- 3. AI Engineer World’s Fair – Session Abstract (June 5, 2025)
- Title: AI and Game Theory: A Case Study on NYT’s Connections
- Link: https://www.ai.engineer/schedule (navigate to June 5, Design Engineering track)
- Quoraishee gave a scheduled 20-minute talk on using semantic clustering, puzzle-solving models, and graph theory to analyze NYT’s “Connections” game.
- The abstract includes conceptual depth, showing this is not just a résumé filler but substantive technical work discussed at scale.
- ✅ Independent ✅ Secondary ✅ Reliable ✅ Focused on subject’s original contribution
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- Summary
- These sources:
- Are not self-authored or promotional
- Provide significant, sustained attention to Quoraishee’s work
- Appear across multiple venues with clear editorial oversight
- They satisfy the core of WP:BIO and WP:N—particularly the standard that “significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources” is the bar.
- If you need more links, screenshots, or context to verify these directly, I’m happy to provide that. 209.87.169.34 (talk) 03:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Reference 1 is primary and written by the subject. It is likely that the rest of the post has similar basic errors, and may have been regurgitated by a large language model output, so I will not read it in detail. Caleb Stanford (talk) 03:37, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - No independent WP:SIGCOV. None of the IP's suggestions move the needle. Thanks, Suriname0 (talk) 20:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:36, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
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Lots of mentions and the usual industry listings. But I couldn't find any in-depth references from independent, reliable sources. Onel5969 TT me 16:07, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The references in the existing articles are not reliable (please read WP:RS). Additionally, my WP:BEFORE search did not yield significant results, and I don’t believe the subject meets WP:NCORP criteria. Baqi:) (talk) 06:24, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I prodded this page in January, with the rationale "Nothing here to suggest that this firm might meet the requirements of WP:NCORP. The text is sourced almost entirely to its own publicity materials". It was deleted and then restored, but nothing in the page has changed. It gets a good number of passing mentions on JSTOR and on Scholar, but I don't see anything resembling in-depth coverage. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Justlettersandnumbers, @Onel5969, @Wcquidditch, and @Spiderone -- I am trying to suggest some edits on the talk page that remove promotional, first party sources and present secondary sources. I hope that you can review and provide some commentary on these as I continue to present additional sources and ideas. Thank you! Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team, most of the edits you've requested seem to be passing mentions or trivia. What fully-independent reliable sources with significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth have you identified? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Justlettersandnumbers -- I have added a few more suggestions since this note, and will continue to do so. You said that /most/ of the edits are passing mentions, or trivial. Would you be able to identify which of those suggested to-date are least passing/trivial/most up-to-snuff? This would help my continued research and collection. Thank you very kindly! Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team (talk) 14:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team, I just glanced at them – that's why I said "seem to be". You can read the requirements for reliable sources and significant coverage for notability of companies by following the blue links in my previous message. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:31, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you @Justlettersandnumbers. I have been familiarizing myself with those resources as of late. I have also been working to suggest edits to remove all first party sources/promotional content. Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team (talk) 15:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- No, Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team, I just glanced at them – that's why I said "seem to be". You can read the requirements for reliable sources and significant coverage for notability of companies by following the blue links in my previous message. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:31, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Justlettersandnumbers -- I have added a few more suggestions since this note, and will continue to do so. You said that /most/ of the edits are passing mentions, or trivial. Would you be able to identify which of those suggested to-date are least passing/trivial/most up-to-snuff? This would help my continued research and collection. Thank you very kindly! Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team (talk) 14:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ethan Olkovikas of HGA's Digital Team, most of the edits you've requested seem to be passing mentions or trivia. What fully-independent reliable sources with significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth have you identified? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Roboboa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm not convinced this toy robot meets WP:GNG. Article isn't much more than an unsourced summary of its functionality and has seen little improvement since 2008. A WP:BEFORE search revealed no significant coverage other than brief mentions of its announcement in 2007. MidnightMayhem 07:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I only get two hits in Gnews. [1] I'm not sure that's a RS, but it was featured at CES, then appears to have faded away. Lack of sourcing. Non-notable item. Oaktree b (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Nichols, Larry (2008-07-25). "Robot pets do not poop". Philadelphia Gay News. Vol. 32, no. 30. p. 25. EBSCOhost 33550317.
The abstract notes: "The article evaluates robotic pets from WowWee Robotics including Roboboa, the Alive series robots and the Robopanda."
- Stone, Adam (2007-05-11). "Everything's Cool". Baltimore Jewish Times. Vol. 296, no. 2. pp. S22 – S23. ProQuest 222780229.
The article notes: "Your Next Snake We promised you a snake, and now we deliver New from WowWee is the Roboboa, a robotic serpent that dances. Yep. They finally made a robot dancing snake. It's a beautiful world we live in. You can control the snake's 40 movements with a remote, or just crank the tunes and watch it dance to the music. It's also an iPod speaker, alarm clock and motion detector. We would just like to repeat these words one more time: Robotic, Dancing. Snake. For the robot-dancing-snake lover in all of us, could the world be any more cool? "
- Schwarz, Reuben (2007-09-04). "Slinky bed mate". The Press. p. T7. ProQuest 314888094.
The article notes: "Here's an alarm clock with a difference. Roboboa is alarm, reading light and electronic pet all rolled into one. It explores, it parties, it even guards your desk by shooting lasers (actually just a noise) at anything that comes into view. It also interacts with WooWees other toys, like Robopet and Robosapien, and probably scares the heck out of your pets. And it'll be that much harder sleeping in knowing a robot snake is staring down at you."
- "These are the droids you're looking for: WowWee Roboboa". Stuff. 2008-01-01. Factiva FFUTS00020071207e4110000j.
The article notes: "You’re probably wondering how this android snake gets about. In fact, Roboboa glides across flat surfaces with a curious moonwalk action courtesy of rotating cylinder segments. It all makes sense when you put him into Party Mode, whereupon he squirms around to his own disco tunes and puts on a little light show."
- Le Bourlot, Éric (November 2007). "L'invasion des robots jouets" [The invasion of toy robots]. Science et Vie micro (in French). p. 11. Retrieved 2025-07-13 – via Internet Archive.
The article notes: "Toujours inspirés par les travaux du chercheur au chapeau Mark Tilden, le Roboboa a la forme d'un ser- pent et le Roboquad est un drôle d'alien à quatre pattes. Tous deux peuvent se dépla-cer, repérer des obstacles. Mais attention, malgré ce qu'annonce Wow Wee, ils ne disposent pas d'une réelle intelligence artificielle, et si on peut leur inculquer certains comportements basi-ques, ils n'évoluent pas avec le temps."
From Google Translate: "Still inspired by the work of hat-wearing researcher Mark Tilden, Roboboa is shaped like a snake, and Roboquad is a strange four-legged alien. Both can move and spot obstacles. But beware, despite what Wow Wee claims, they don't have real artificial intelligence, and while they can be taught certain basic behaviors, they don't evolve over time."
- "Свестрана змиа" [Versatile snake]. Politikin Zabavnik (in Serbian). 2007-11-30. Retrieved 2025-07-13 – via Internet Archive.
The article notes: "Свестрана змиа Argos Roboboa Стручнаци куе „Argos" осмислили су необичну роботизовану направу ко je савитльива попут змие да би била што прилагодливиа разним наменама и назвали су je Roboboa. Склопльена од дигиталних уреаа, ова „купна змиа" лако може да промени облик и изврши чак четрдесет едну радну. Тако, рецимо, Roboboa може да се користи као лампа за читанье, будилник, поуздани чувар кои бележи сваки покрет и о томе одмах обавештава, али и као саиграч кои добро прати ритам музике. Оваква свестрана направа заиста je пожельна у сваком домапинству. Може да се купи по цени од око 160 евра."
From Google Translate: "Versatile snake Argos Roboboa Experts from the house "Argos" have designed an unusual robotic device that is flexible like a snake in order to be as adaptable as possible for various purposes and have called it Roboboa. Assembled from digital devices, this "snake" can easily change shape and perform as many as forty-one tasks. For example, Roboboa can be used as a reading lamp, an alarm clock, a reliable guard that records every movement and immediately informs about it, but also as a teammate that follows the rhythm of the music well. Such a versatile device is truly desirable in every household. It can be purchased for a price of around 160 euros."
- Melanson, Donald (2007-10-15). "Roboboa slithers its way to the USA". Engadget. Archived from the original on 2021-01-23. Retrieved 2025-07-13.
The article notes: "While WowWee's dancing Roboboa robot has already made its way into a few select parts of the world, those in the US have so far had a considerable harder time getting their hands on one. That looks to have now changed in a big way, however, as the so-called "alien with attitude" is now available directly from WowWee for an even $100."
- Nichols, Larry (2008-07-25). "Robot pets do not poop". Philadelphia Gay News. Vol. 32, no. 30. p. 25. EBSCOhost 33550317.
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- Keep satisfied with the sources found by Cunard. SongRuyi (talk) 16:54, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 03:15, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Uni Abex (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like revenue targets, profit/financial reporting, turnover news, capacity expansion news etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:32, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete The only "Keep" voter in the previous AfD commented that the company has a market cap of £4 billion, but that figure is completely off the mark. Its actual market cap is ₹674 crore (£60 million) [2]. All the references in the article are routine listings, and WP:BEFORE yields nothing substantial either. Yuvaank (talk) 01:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
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- Delete Fails WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 02:43, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Despite some poor argumentation, I see clear consensus here that there is too much material for either of the proposed mergers to be workable. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
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As this isn't a new article, it seems (I've not done this before) that WP:ATD-R applies: discuss on talk page first, but if consensus is lacking, go to AfD for discussion with the wider community. Opinion at History of the metre#Redirect to History of the metric system? was divided 2:2 and so though long discussion there just might reach unanimity either way, it seems better to come here as WP:ATD-R's preferred venue. NebY (talk) 20:19, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
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- This should be merged to Metre#History of definition, not redirected to History of the metric system. I actually don't see much duplication between the two history articles at all, I see two distinct topics with very different content. There is a lot of metre-specific history that isn't tied to the metric system as a whole and this could even be expanded. Much of History of the metre#From standard bars to wavelength of light would be out of place at History of the metric system. But for now at least, metre is relatively short and so its history could be merged there, if not kept separate if expanded. I agree with StarryGrandma on the talk page. Reywas92Talk 03:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to both history articles mentioned in nom and by reywas. Good arguments made, and Im always happy to see the metric "system" get a thumping. Metallurgist (talk) 03:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the article. Regardless of the reason History of the metre was created, historically the meter holds a special place in the metric system. Indeed, the other unit of the historical system, the kilogram was originally defined using the meter. Here is a link to a source p. 14. Metric System does not take that in account and gives explainations which correspond to the International System of Units (SI). The second was only added to the system following a proposal by Gauss in 1832 to base a system of absolute units on the three fundamental units of length, mass and time (see Centimetre–gram–second system of units). Charles Inigo (talk) 12:49, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep Why are we even having this discussion? When we had the 'vital articles' rating system, what would this be at? A 2? Even a 1?
- The history of the metric system is huge, an article like this is entirely appropriate. Especially given that the historical context of the metric units for length and mass are so different, the length standard itself having driven huge advances in Earth geodesy. This wasn't the British Imperial system where they simply sat down one day to arbitrarily define each and every unit according to some convenient aspect of the king, the metric system of 'just basing the metre on the size of the Earth' then needed the first serious efforts to measure the size and shape of the Earth itself.
- This is just the sort of article that WP should (and seemingly can) deliver good content on. Back in the days when Wikipedia was 'that place that made the internet not suck', this was the type of article that made it so. Now we just seem more concerned in finding pointless reasons to make WP worse. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:29, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep This is a massively notable topic of obvious and utmost importance in the history of physics. Sources dedicated to the topic are abundant [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] The metric system is a wider and different topic than the metre, and a merge on either History of the metric system or Metre would make the articles unwieldy long. --cyclopiaspeak! 12:05, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There's more detail here than is appropriate for history of the metric system, and merging with metre would overwhelm that article with historical information. There's certainly scope for three separate articles, here, just as, e.g., France, History of France and History of Europe are separate: the three articles have different focus and different levels of detail. Dricherby (talk) 13:15, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep Keep as a redirect. Cameremote (talk) @gonisulaimann 22:22, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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