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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Siege of Samarkhel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Quite the same rationale as of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First Siege of Samarkhel: The article is possibly a WP:HOAX, with no sign of independent significant coverage and only passing mentions: The Mujahideen managed to seize Samarkhel village east of Jalalabad in the sources. Also it look likes it's a WP:SAMETYPEFORK. – Garuda Talk! 23:02, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Hi! The Siege of Samarkhel is the original article before someone made the “First Siege of Samarkhel” article. They deleted the entire article to make it but I luckily reverted it. AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 14:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Two sources that mention the fighting in Samarkhel:
- https://www.rebellionresearch.com/what-happened-in-the-battle-of-jalalabad
- https://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/13/world/jalalabad-shows-its-recovery-as-siege-by-rebels-dwindles.html
- However, this “siege” was part of the Battle of Jalalabad but I did not make this article. I don’t know whose idea was it to call it a “siege”. AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 14:47, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: There doesn't seem to be much evidence for the seige, one of the sources only mentions that Samarkhel was seized [1]. Even if a seige did take place, it isn't notable enough for a standalone article. AlvaKedak (talk) 13:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Timtim76 (talk) 15:50, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Not notable. Per nomination. Rubik's Cube 3x3 20:05, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Roy, Kaushik (2014). War and State-Building in Afghanistan: Historical and Modern Perspectives. Bloomsbury Publishing. p. 135. ISBN 9781472572196.
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. This would seem like a slam-dunk deletion but two editors who argued for Deletion are very inexperienced which makes me wonder how they turned up at this AFD. This situation causes me to relist this discussion to get more feedback from our experienced AFD regulars.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Going through the 14 sources currently on the article as I write this.
- - [1] Appears to be LLM/AI generated based on the website, lack of sources, and lack of author. It also fails to mention a seige of Samarkhil (note the spelling difference) but does mention that the village was part of the defenses of Jalalabad (if we can trust what it says).
- - [2] A reliable source about the Battle/Siege of Jalalabad that does mention Samarkhel in passing but it doesn't appear that there was any significant siege of that location.
- - [3] Another reliable source talking about the siege of Jalalabad, no mention of Samarkhel.
- - [4] Page 45 as the citation claims is about the year 1000 CE, so it is only 980 or so years off. The book does mention Jalalabad (unsure of full context though) with only a brief mention of Samarkhel.
- - [5] Another solid looking book that mentions Samarkhel as a location but nothing about a siege.
- - [6] same source as number [2]
- - [7] no mention of Samarkhil or Samarkhel, only 2 results for Jalalabad.
- - [8] This mentions Samarkhel as a frontline, but in the battle of Jalalabad, not its own siege.
- - [9] Same source as [4], this time the page marked is the singular mention of Samakhel, but again it appears to be a brief mention, not its own topic.
- - [10] mentions Samarkhel (Mountain) purely in relation to being near Jalalabad.
- - [11] Unfortunately Google books doesn't have Search Inside for this one so No Comment.
- - [12] Same as [1], just as bad now as it was then.
- - [13] Someone with military history training might tell me if this is important? but as far as I can tell it just talks about Jalalabad.
- - [14] Same as [8]
Overall I think this article was mistakenly created from the Siege/Battle of Jalalabad article and should be deleted. It doesn't appear as if there was any actual siege that occurred for this to even be worthy of a redirect to the main page instead. Moritoriko (talk) 02:10, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: The sources provided only mention Samarkhel in passing as part of the Battle of Jalalabad, not as a separate siege, violating WP:NOR and WP:SYNTH, the article appears to be a WP:SAMETYPEFORK of the broader battle. NXcrypto Message 20:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete. WP:CSD#G3 Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 22:06, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- First Siege of Samarkhel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsalvageable article, which is totally LLM'd [15] with one line of passing mentions: The Mujahideen managed to seize Samarkhel village east of Jalalabad. Topic is scarcely notable, WP:TNT applies anyways. – Garuda Talk! 23:30, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
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- This is a hoax. I started with the Al Qaeda in Its Own Words source. No mention of Samarkhel on page 45 at all. Other stuff entirely fails to check out, too. Stenersen 2017, p. 22 isn't about a siege of Samarkhel. It's about the Battle of Jalalabad (1989) with no mention of Samarkhel being besieged. Exactly the same goes for Roy 2014, p. 135 . The AuthorHouse self-published book isn't about a siege, either. Uncle G (talk) 07:44, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy delete G3. Mccapra (talk) 12:30, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy delete G3 and also I tagged it under WP:G3. Rubik's Cube 3x3 (talk) 19:17, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination and above editors. Behappyyar (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Jarret Brachman. Sandstein 09:08, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
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This is a neologism, and does not meet our standards for it. There is actually a lot of usage of the term, but it's always referring to it in the context of its creator, and should be merged to the creator of the term, Jarret Brachman. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete for lack of significant coverage. It's hilarious, and I'm a fan of portmanteaux myself (I invented mergetarian in 2008), but as the years have passed, we've become more strict with notability. Bearian (talk) 04:57, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 01:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I will do the merge myself if the consensus is not to keep. There is coverage, it's just in the context of its creator. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to the creator, per nom Eddie891 Talk Work 12:02, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ✗plicit 01:56, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
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Cannot find evidence this has independent notability to pass WP:NEVENT. There were a lot of bombings in the Troubles. Unless further coverage exists that proves notability, should be merged to Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1970–1979)#1976 PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep - I've just added a bunch more detail, plus contemporary news references. It's also significant in that this incident caused the Provisional IRA to temporarily pause their bombing campaign in Britain due to the fallout - Alison talk 04:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Alison The contemporary news sources don't really help it pass NEVENT. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I believe the fact that the Provos paused their campaign for some time adds to the uniqueness of this particular bombing - Alison talk 04:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Well, that's currently uncited. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I believe the fact that the Provos paused their campaign for some time adds to the uniqueness of this particular bombing - Alison talk 04:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Alison The contemporary news sources don't really help it pass NEVENT. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - While, yes, there were a "lot of bombings in the Troubles" (and not all meet WP:NEVENT for standalone titles), my own WP:BEFORE search has thrown up at least a few sources which suggest some lasting relevance. I've added these (and related text) to the article. Including two from Yonah Alexander. One of which is framed more as correlation rather than causation (in terms of drop-off in IRA activity). While the other is more clearly framed as causation (in terms of drop-off in support from Qadhafi). The pre-existing Nationwide source/report, in which John Stapleton (timestamp 1m20s) speaks about the "[IRA's] latest line in explosive hardware" (and George Styles subsequently talks about its relevance) are also, IMO, contributory... Guliolopez (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Notable event with numerous weighty mentions in a number of reliable sources. - SchroCat (talk) 10:15, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
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