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Main Page idea

I was wondering if there was a way that we could add something relating to Wikipedia:Good Articles on the main page? Something that could create viewer engagement right off the bat. Seeing as how there's a little over 100 GAs, I figured it'd be nice to shed some spotlight to those articles especially since naturally they may be harder to find/appreciated. I know it's not common at English Wikipedia to spotlight Good Articles, but seeing as how we're a small community and how we have 102 GAs, I feel like that wouldn't be a bad touch. I was thinking perhaps adding some language to the VGA section of the main page. Something like: "Other very good articles – Proposals – Requirements – Some good articles". Thoughts? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:14, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. We could also think about creating (shorter, without image?) teasers for GAs. And then list one GA teaser as well? Eptalon (talk) 07:59, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

I would support more visibility of the GA process. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:50, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Completely agree. For a community as small as ours, 100 GAs is fairly good, so why not showing them on our Main Page? That'd probably even courage people to work on them and get them to VGA status. -Barras talk 17:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Should we add a small section of GA article previews like the VGA articles on the main page or a simple mention of Good Articles like how I suggested above? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:27, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

If we agreed,I would say a GA blurb should be noticeably shorter than a VGA blurb, and we need to write 100 blurbs first Eptalon (talk) 20:29, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Good idea. I’ve noticed some of the VGA blurbs are rather small compared to the leads they have on their articles. We could expand the VGA blurbs a bit and follow what Eptalon is suggesting: Two sentence blurbs for GAs? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:04, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree also. fr33kman 01:09, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps what we could do is expand the "About Wikipedia" section to make it more elongated like the DYK section and then beneath the "About Wikipedia" section we could have a "Selected Very Good Article" (left) and "Selected Good Article" (right) previews? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:05, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

I've also created a sanbox that depicts how the GA blurbs would ideally look like for the newest 10 GAs :) I was also thinking for VGA blurbs and possible GA blurbs that are about shows, characters, books, movies, etc. that don't have a picture, we could place an image of a person related to them such as how I did for the Big Break blurb. English wikipedia does this for featured articles that have copyrighted images that can't appear on the main page. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:31, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

I assume you mean to make the "About Wikipedia" section cover the full width of the page and not go down so far. That's a good idea. ~2025-61813-2 (talk) 13:36, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

Yep! The About Wikipedia be expanded horizontally much like how DYK is and then beneath that section we could have VGA (left) and GA blubs (right). TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

I like what you did with the sandbox. How many blurbs do you propose? fr33kman 20:18, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

I was prepared to draft blurbs for all 102 good articles. Would that be a bad idea? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:39, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

We can probably just write a new one every time a new article is promoted to GA. I would suggest having a dedicated page somewhere to be able to see all blurbs at once which could be admin protected, then in the talk page, people can suggest revisions, (grammar, spelling, linking, etc). MrMeAndMrMe_Talk 02:59, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Did we make all the blurbs? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 21:38, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

If we say there are 2 ga hooks on the page we perhaps need 4-6 such hooks to show. If it is just a layout proposal, even 2 hooks will do Eptalon (talk) 21:47, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

I may need some help in creating blurbs for the remaining GA articles as I have 90-ish left to do. Anyone is free to follow the 10-12 examples I’ve laid out on the mentioned sandbox above :) TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:56, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Any other feedback from users who haven't chimed in? If this is the direction we'll be moving to, is there anyone who's willing to get the ball moving on this in terms of formatting the main page? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:04, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

  Any updates? ~2025-27691-51 (talk) 03:21, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

  Any movement on this project? fr33kman 23:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

  Sounds okeh to me. Kdammers (talk) 17:45, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

  @TDKR Chicago 101. Any updates? Plutus ^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:59, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

  I was hoping that someone with experience in editing the main page would chime in/take a stab at editing the main page. I’m fairly new as an admin and don’t have experience editing the main page. I’d be happy to do it if everyone’s in agreement :) TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

  Should there be 2 or 3 GA entries at a time? ~2025-34351-96 (talk) 18:51, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

  @TDKR Chicago 101, please see User:Ternera/Main Page and let me know your thoughts on my edits. Ternera (talk) 17:25, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  Wikipedia:Very good articles/Bowls is the shortest VGA blurb at 706 bytes. Wikipedia:Very good articles/Ipswich Town F.C. is the second shortest at 894 bytes. I believe all the others are over 1000 bytes. I think it would make sense to have two GA blurbs. Also, would you consider putting the VGA/GA's above "About Wikipedia" or is that a bad idea? It's less likely people will see them this way. ~2025-34787-00 (talk) 17:37, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  I changed it to show two GAs but personally, I feel like it looks better with one. Ternera (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  Fair enough. (Though minor note, "Other good articles – Proposals – Requirements" would only be needed below the second one.) ~2025-34787-00 (talk) 17:48, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks for the note. That is a template on the GA snippet page, so it may be difficult to stop it from showing up (I am not an expert when it comes to these things though). I am going to switch the page back to the original version for now. Ternera (talk) 17:51, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  @Ternera: That is amazing work! I like the 1 GA blurb idea as it keeps things balanced. Over the weekend I'll start creating blurbs for the remaining GA articles. I think I have 90 to go. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:05, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  Sounds great! If we are able to get some more feedback in favor of the change, I will update the main page once the blurbs are done. Ternera (talk) 18:21, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  looking at the proposal above, except for the section heading there is no real visible difference between a GA blurb and a VGA one. Other then number: picture yes/no. Blurb length: should the GA blurb be noticeably shorter? Other then that: very good work do far. Eptalon (talk) 18:28, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

  I see where you're coming from. Is there a way to add the VGA and GA symbols to their respective sections? Such as "Selected Very Good Article (VGA Star Icon)" & "Selected Good Article (GA Icon)"? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:50, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

  @TDKR Chicago 101, I updated User:Ternera/Main Page with that if you want to check it out! Ternera (talk) 19:11, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

  Amazing! That's what I had in mind :) I'll get started on the GA blurbs tonight and hopefully I should be ready before Thanksgiving :) TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

  Excellent. Feel free to copy format I did or you can put them all on one page and I will create a page for each one. Ternera (talk) 19:26, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

Request to Review and Move: Tableo Article

Hello! I have created a draft article about "Tableo" in my user sandbox: User:TamaraNaudi/sandbox

As I am affiliated with the company, I will not move the page to mainspace myself. I have disclosed my conflict of interest on my user talk page and the article talk page.

If any editor would be willing to review the draft and, if appropriate, move it to the article namespace, I would be very grateful.

Thank you! TamaraNaudi (talk) 14:46, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Personally, I feel like it needs a bit more work. Some additional secondary sources would better enhance the reliability of the claims in the article. Also, the article could use some more neutrality. Plutus ^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 10:12, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi Plutus, thank you so much for your feedback. It's much appreciated. I've reworked the content including many more references and worked on the neutrality of the article, to make it more factual. Would you be so kind as to give it a second glance? TamaraNaudi (talk) 11:54, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi Plutus! I just wanted to follow up on the Tableo draft in User:TamaraNaudi/sandbox which I revised as per your earlier suggestions. I’ve tried to address the concerns around sourcing and neutrality. When you have a moment, I’d be grateful if you could take another look. Thanks again for your time and help! TamaraNaudi (talk) 13:43, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

"Total Backlog Annihilation" phase six

Hi everyone! I've just opened the newest - and probably most ambitious - phase of WikiProject TBA (Total Backlog Annihilation) yet and that is to clear our backlog of complex pages. Instructions are provided on how to help clear the backlog. You can find out more and register interest at User:Ferien/WikiProject TBA/Phase VI. All help is very much appreciated to try and clear as many backlogs on our wiki as possible! Thank you very much for all volunteers who have helped so far, and thank you in advance for all those who will help in this phase! --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 12:00, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

I’m interested in this Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk | changes) 16:18, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

This is going to take a while Plutus ^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 04:00, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Do we have any stats on how much work is being done on this? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk | changes) 00:08, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Immanuelle: As with any TBA work, stats can come from:

• Using the designated string in edit summaries
• People reporting the work they've done where they didn't use the designated string
• Seeing pages disappear from the maintenance categories

I also see that the starting and updated counts are displayed on the project page. -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:23, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

My concern

I'm concerned that the Simplewiki community has nothing constructive to say about any of my GA nominations. I get that they may have issues in the eyes of some people, but can't those people maybe give me tips on how to FIX THE ISSUES THEY SEE? Is it really that hard, guys? Hell, if it's such an issue, why don't you guys go in and fix it yourself? Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 19:43, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Contributor 118,784, sorry if my comments on the GA nomination came across as too harsh. One of the problems people were pointing out is that the sources rely too much on Apple's own website (primary sources) instead of relying on sources from third parties (other websites talking about the product). This could be fixed by finding sources from a variety of reliable websites (you could also look at the English Wikipedia article for ideas). Hope that helps. Ternera (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

You're perfectly fine, thank you for the apology. I appreciate the guidance. :) Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 19:58, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

I see feedback and guidance in that discussion. People pointed out the concerns with too many sources from Apple. People pointed out the concerns with it being written with a lot of bullet points and not in paragraph form. People pointed out uncited areas. People pointed out sections that felt like they read like press releases.

While they didn't say "this is uncited, you should cite it," it should be pretty obvious what the fixes are for each of these things. We're all volunteers here. No one is obligated to fix your article for you to make it meet good article standards. CountryANDWestern (talk) 20:05, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

The article met the official GA standards when I nominated it. It just didn't meet YOUR standards. Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 20:34, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

I would say it definitely did not meet requirements 3 and 5 of WP:RGA. It underwent a large rewrite shortly before being nominated for GA. Ternera (talk) 20:39, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

You've got a misunderstanding here. What you are referring to is requirements for the article to be nominated, it is not the criteria for it to be a GA.

There are lots of other reasons why an article might not be suitable for GA, and that is what the !voting time is for. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:57, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification, I understand now. Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 19:42, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

You must realise that the GA criteria is designed to be applicable to well written simple English articles. If you are getting some negative feedback, it's a tale that the articles in question aren't quite at the point of being suitable yet. If someone hasn't given actionable feedback, you can ask for some, but remember that reviews are voluntary, and a reviewer doesn't have to provide ways to "fix" an article Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:24, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

@Contributor 118,784: I'm sorry to hear you struggled. It's hard with such a small community for us to participate in all parts of this wiki's community. If I get time, I will look. Best, --IWI (talk) 21:19, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the IPA template

Look at Frederiksberg. The IPA pronunciation, which should be after the first word in the article, is not being displayed. ~2025-32945-68 (talk) 20:41, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-32945-68: Our IPA template apparently doesn't take a language parameter. It might be fixed by updating the template, but that would require a little verification. I'll look at it later if no one else gets to it first. On the other hand, I seem to remember that in the past we discussed whether we even wanted to use the pronunciation templates here. If we do, do we want to use the ones for non-English pronunciations? -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:32, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Page about Cheiro

I created a page at https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheiro but don't know how to connect it with the English Wikipedia article with the same name. Please help link the two.-Baangla (talk) 17:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Baangla, I added it to Wikidata so it will be linked. The article still needs a lot of simplification though. Ternera (talk) 17:55, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Ternera: Please import the image of Cheiro to the Simple wikipedia page about Cheiro from the English Wikipedia.-Baangla (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

On Simple English Wikipedia, images can only be imported from Wikimedia Commons. I see that there is a proposal to add the image of Cheiro to Commons, but until that happens, it can not be used here. Peterdownunder (talk) 19:56, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

GA Nom & DYK noms

Hello everyone! Just a little ping that there’s some DYK noms that need review and there’s an ongoing nomination at Wikipedia:Proposed good articles. Any feedback on the two projects is highly appreciated and valued :) TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:41, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Adding to this, there's also an active nomination over at Wikipedia:Proposed very good articles. ShadowBallX (talk) 02:34, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

References

I have just created the page about Karen Stollznow but couldn't get two of the cited sources to go below into the References section. Someone please correct it.-Baangla (talk) 20:49, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@Baangla: This appears to have been fixed by Ravensfire. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes, thanks Ravensfire.-Baangla (talk) 01:20, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Self published source as a reliable source

I had read a page about how a self published source can be used as a reliable source on simple wikipedia but I can't find it now. I only found this: en: WP:SELFSOURCE online. Please provide the link about self sources as reliable sources on this Simple English Wikipedia.-Baangla (talk) 00:14, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Someone please explain this also: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Primary_source_inline -Baangla (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

That template is a notice that the source used in front is a primary source. If you've read the en wiki page on SELFSOURCE, then you know how they are treated here. Basic information only, nothing about other people or events not related to the subject and the article cannot be primarily based on those source. Generally, if the only source about something is a primary source, you should seriously question if it belongs in the article. Ravensfire (talk) 05:33, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I added this because I couldn't find any other source for it. Do you suggest I remove it and add the citation needed template back there (as in the original English Wikipedia article about the same person)?-Baangla (talk) 08:42, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

If it's only sourced to a primary source, I would just remove it. For me, that is getting into the self-promotional territory and when secondary sources don't say anything about that, it's questionable anyway to include. Ravensfire (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

What should be the primary topic for King Kong?

King Kong is a nonexistent title, but King Kong (character) and King Kong (1933 movie) are both options. On English Wikipedia, en:King Kong is about the character. ~2025-34351-96 (talk) 01:26, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

I think the primary topic should be the character, like on English Wikipedia. Most people searching "King Kong" are looking for the character, not a specific movie. Saroj (talk) 02:00, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Should someone move King Kong (character) to King Kong or create a redirect from King Kong to King Kong (character)? (You have to be a logged in user to move a page.) ~2025-34351-96 (talk) 02:02, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

I would say the best option is the create a disambiguation page I use Nookipedia 😊 (talk page) 02:05, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Blockquote

In the section "Suggestion and Auto-suggestion" of the article on "Autosuggestion", there is a quotation but it is not in a "blockquote" tag. Should I put it in a "blockquote" tag or leave it as it is?-Baangla (talk) 07:32, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Baangla: You are free to format it differently if you think that would be better. However, there is no requirement for quotes to be formatting in any particular way. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:02, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the information.-Baangla (talk) 10:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Connecting a page to the English Wikipedia

I have created a new page about Hypnotherapy. Please connect the page to the English Wikipedia article about the same. Please also let me know how to do it on my own the next time (connecting a new Simple Wikipedia page to an English Wikipedia article about the same).-Baangla (talk) 10:45, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Baangla, I have connected Hypnotherapy to the Wikidata item for you. When you create an article, on the sidebar, you should see Languages and as it is empty (as no other languages have been connected to it), press Add links. An interface should then pop up to link the article to its Wikidata item. Simply put "enwiki" as Project, and then enter the name of the page you're connecting in Page. --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 10:49, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Religion and ethnology census tables for Slovak places

I added the religion and ethnology tables to Slovak places. Example is Prešov#Ethnic_composition and Prešov#Religion. It is a part of my project "SK".

None problem to change a frontend or visual (list or only text), but default visual is 1% table + full text. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 11:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Satyananda Saraswati

I copied the Satyananda Saraswati page from the original English Wikipedia article about the same person but have some citation errors (group S is undefined). I need help fixing it. Please help.-Baangla (talk) 16:02, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Baangla, I fixed the citation errors. Please note that articles should not be copied and pasted from the English Wikipedia. This article needs to be changed and simplified, otherwise it is going to be quickly deleted under A3. Ternera (talk) 16:07, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

I will paraphrase and simplify the sentences; just give me a few minutes.-Baangla (talk) 16:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

In that page, some of the references cited have appeared below the, "Sources" section, someone please correct it (all of them are supposed to be above that section).-Baangla (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

 Done-Baangla (talk) 02:21, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Brainstorming changes to Main Page/Knowledge groups

There are a few things which I would like to see changed on Main Page/Knowledge groups. I would suggest adding Literature, Clothing, and Design, and removing Teaching (covered by Education), Custom (covered by Culture), Gardening (not as important, and covered by Farming), Radio (not as important and covered by Communication), Zoology (covered by Biology), Copyright, Defense (simply a redirect to Military), Trade (covered by Economics), and Sect (a three sentence stub). Possibly removing Human rights, Ecology, Esotericism, and Bahá'í. The problem is these changes would make the "Government and law" section rather small (and I don't think economics belongs in that section). The sections could also be reallocated somehow. Does anyone have any suggestions or comments? ~2025-34351-96 (talk) 04:43, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

madoka Magica article eletri booglaoo

would it be appropriate to use AI to help me simplify this article? --> Puella Magi Madoka Magica Xlowntheclown (talk) 16:51, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

You could use it but it is generally not recommended. You will want to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:AI generated content and understand that you take responsibility for anything the AI writes. Ternera (talk) 16:52, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

ok here's what Gemini generated

In the Japanese city of Mitakihara, a middle school girl named Madoka Kaname meets a small alien creature named Kyubey. Kyubey tells Madoka and her best friend, Sayaka Miki, that it can grant one wish for each of them. In return, they must become "magical girls" and use their new powers to fight evil creatures called witches.

A new student named Homura Akemi, who is already a magical girl, warns Madoka not to make a contract. Another magical girl, Mami Tomoe, shows the girls how to fight witches.

After a witch kills Mami, Madoka and Sayaka learn that being a magical girl is dangerous. They also learn that magical girls must give up their souls. When a magical girl feels too much sadness, her soul gem turns black, and she becomes a witch.

Sayaka becomes a magical girl to help a boy she likes. When things go wrong, she becomes very sad and turns into a witch.

Kyubey tells Madoka that it uses the magical girls' feelings to create energy for the universe. Madoka also learns that Homura is a time traveler who keeps repeating the same month to try to save Madoka from a terrible fate.

The city faces a very strong witch called Walpurgisnacht. Homura fights the witch but cannot win.

Madoka makes her wish. She wishes to stop all witches from being born in the past, present, and future. This wish is so powerful that it changes the rules of the universe. Madoka becomes a new rule herself, called the "Law of Cycles," and she stops existing as a normal girl.

A new world is formed where girls do not become witches. Homura is the only person who remembers Madoka. Homura keeps fighting witches in the new world in honor of her friend.

should I just use the original wikipedia articles and write the plot based off of that ? Xlowntheclown (talk) 17:35, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Request for review after revisions

Hello everyone,

I previously received some feedback on the draft article for Tableo located at User:TamaraNaudi/sandbox. I've since updated the content to address neutrality and sourcing concerns raised in the earlier discussion.

If any editor has time to review the updated draft or provide guidance on next steps, I would greatly appreciate it.

For transparency: I have a conflict of interest and will not move the article myself.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Tamara ~~~~ TamaraNaudi (talk) 12:08, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

@TamaraNaudi: Hello! Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest and working on this in your userspace. It looks like all the sources are primary (press releases) and resultingly I don't think it meets our notability guideline. It's pretty rare that business software like this would be notable, as there's rarely any secondary coverage. What you wrote is certainly encyclopedic but I don't think this topic is a fit for Wikipedia. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 04:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Reminder: Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project

Hello. Reminder: Please help to choose name for the new Abstract Wikipedia wiki project. The finalist vote starts today. The finalists for the name are: Abstract Wikipedia, Multilingual Wikipedia, Wikiabstracts, Wikigenerator, Proto-Wiki. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. Thank you!

-- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:22, 20 November 2025 (UTC)