Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zensai AI

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zensai AI

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Contested draftification, so off to AfD. Company fails WP:NCORP, and it's a particularly egregious case of WP:ADMASQ, almost to the line of a G11. Contrary to the article's claim, it does not appear on the 2024 FT 1000 list (not that that would confer notability if it did). The rest of the sources are limited to:

Corporate press releases ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5])
Articles by Zensai employees ([6], [7])
WP:PRIMARYSOURCES like Zensai's description of its products in app stores ([8]) and other Zensai sponsored content ([9])
A promotional product review ([10])
Sources that I'm guessing were added in error since they either don't mention the company ([11]) or are the website of an entirely different company.

WP:BEFORE search turns up only more corporate press releases. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Software, and Denmark. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree with the source review above, PR items and other sources that aren't reliable. I can only bring up PR items in my searches as well. Appears to be PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 18:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PR Items all removed and all product promotion taken out - suggest the article is renamed to Zensai (Company)- also noted the placed where Zensai has won prices with the prior name LMS365 and noted journalists of articles 87.116.23.14 (talk) 13:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article on Zensai AI meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines, with independent coverage highlighting its innovations in AI applications across healthcare, finance, and education. It documents industry recognition, impactful partnerships, and contributions to global challenges. The article is neutral, well-sourced, and provides valuable information on a significant player in the AI field. I recommend retaining it and addressing any concerns for compliance with Wikipedia standards. Hussainxyz (talk) 02:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly recommend you not use AI tools to generate responses and actually address the source analysis in the nomination. (GPTZero rates this as 100% probability of being AI-generated.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Any concerns" are mainly the lack of sourcing. Ask the AI to help find some, which it likely won't, but anything's worth a try. Oaktree b (talk) 17:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:NCORP per source analysis by nom. ~ A412 ^talk! 08:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Open to a weak keep if somebody has access to certain sources, see my comment below. ~ A412 ^talk! 18:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as vanispamcruftisement. XOR'easter (talk) 20:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article was updated on the 8th of January to remove all of the PR — 188.177.23.247 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 16:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC) (UTC).[reply]
Some PR may have been removed, but the sources remaining are still WP:ORGTRIV and don't contribute to notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After another inspection, it appears there's some actual analyst coverage here, The company was also covered by Gartner Analyst Tori Paulman as a Cool Vendor, and The company is also featured on analyst firm Fosway's Learning Management 9-grid by Senior Analyst Fiona Leteney as well as the Talent and People Success 9-grid by Chief Insight Officer David Perring both theoretically link actual analyst reports behind them. Here's the problem: it's all paywalled. If somebody has access and could confirm these analyst reports contain significant coverage and aren't just entries in lists, I'd be open to a weak keep. ~ A412 ^talk! 17:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those aren't analyst reports on public companies envisioned by WP:LISTED. Lots of companies get ranked in various Gartner lists and it's almost never WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that Gartner Cool Vendor is not a Gartner list - the Cool Vendor nomenclature will only be given to organizations who challenge the thought process of at least 3 Gartner analysts because the publication will mention a specific company by name - other Cool Vendors are the likes of AirBnB, Atlassian, Splunk, Slack ... most went on to change industries 188.177.23.247 (talk) 15:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the source analysis above. Couldn't find those analyst reports, but agree that being given a title by Gartner and co is typically very unlikely to constitute WP:SIGCOV. Everything else I could find seems to be promo. MCE89 (talk) 23:32, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The company was included by Danish Chamber of Commerce as well as winners of Red Dot Award which is only awarded for best-in-class design 87.116.23.14 (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom, but also getting Déjà vu like a lot of similar AI-related company AfDs, where promotional coverage is significant, but nothing worthwhile outside of that. Snowycats (talk) 03:17, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The company name is not Zensai AI - I have motioned that the author changes it to Zensai (Company) 87.116.23.14 (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, article references are bunch of PR distributed sources. Nothing brings it close to WP:NORG. Mekomo (talk) 15:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Does not meet WP:NCORP and reads like WP:PROMO. Madeleine (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.