Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Kalman

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 10:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Max Kalman

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Subject seems to be a fairly run-of-the-mill architect, only noted in connection with the notable building that he designed. BD2412 T 00:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Architecture, and Massachusetts. BD2412 T 00:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep--User:BD2412, I found some coverage for him, and I'm sure more is available. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I looked for coverage. I was not impressed, but my opinion doesn't weigh any more than anyone else's. BD2412 T 00:59, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - I struggled to find much on this person, too, outwith the discussions of "designed by". And I cannot find a convincing source that the Max Kalman architect in Boston and the Maxwell Kalman one in Montreal are in fact the same person. Max is not an uncommon name, no Boston source says Maxwell, and the Canadian one was in the class of 1928 (Omicron '28 says the Tau Epsilon Phi history) which would have xem not even a McGill freshman when the work in Boston in 1919 and 1922 was being done, and also graduating in xyr 40s.
    The Gazette source has the Montreal one born in 1906, not 1884, and thus graduating at a more usual age. The Gazette one is a good single source for the Montreal one, sans any Boston and Texas conflation (as those two can be connected, albeit via the memoirs of a random neighbour in Texas). A good second source on the Montreal architect, and we'd be in business, but there are just a handful of building mentions elsewhere, that I can find.
    Uncle G (talk) 09:20, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Russia, and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:20, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Via a very winding and roundabout route, which Drmies found the small obscure fingerpost pointing to, which this article did not hint at in its entire 11 year history, the answer seems to be that this is a {{R from short name}} for Maxwell M. Kalman. I can find nothing documenting the 1884 Boston person at all, and the "Ancestry" WWW sites do not cut the mustard for a biography of a historical person because of the Wikipedia is not a genealogy database policy. The person actually has to be documented in some sort of actual on-point history. Even in the sources about Vilna Shul the 1884 person is just a name-check, as xe is in the Texas neighbour's memoirs too. The links in Wesley Lyng Minor and Vilna Shul are clearly excessive. Uncle G (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Max Kalman (1884 – 1963) fails WP:ARTIST. Do not confuse with Canadian architect, Maxwell M. Kalman (1906 – 2009). --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:GNG. Interestingly this was created by a SPA who mostly worked on fringe medical topics. Bearian (talk) 04:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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