User talk:Tbhotch
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[edit]Hi, you will probably want to update your signature. The correct format is CC BY-SA, not CC-BY-SA. Right now it uses the wrong hyperlink. Regards, RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Escalated disruption warnings
[edit]Unless an editor has been blatantly and egregiously disruptive with clear "malice aforethought", you should always escalate through the structured warning template. See Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings.
This level 4 warning was unreasonably excessive and even a level 1 warning would have been questionable. The IP editor is making a serious and creditable point and should not be threatened with being blocked just because they have not gone the right way about making that point.
See also WP:Please don't bite the newbies. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:03, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- @JMF: Ironic, since the only person that "threatened with [a block]" here was you, a threat to an IP that wasn't even within a limit of the 3RR. You might be unaware of this, but Twinkle provides the levels by default. Giving a 3RR gives a Level-3 warn. (CC) Tbhotch™ 20:07, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting. Since {{uw-editwar}} says that an explicit 3RR/24hr vio is not required for a caution to be issued, I hadn't realised that it pressed the alarm button too. I tried first to issue a {{uw-editwar1}} to de-escalate matters, but it doesn't exist. Now I know why.
- But I still assert that the IP editor was not being disruptive, just not playing by the rules that they are not aware of. The points they are making are certainly arguable and defensible, just not presented properly. I see you reverted my reversion and I accept your rationale in doing so, but I suggest you consider self-reverting now that you are aware of the broader context. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:18, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- {{ewsoft}} was what you probably intended. Not knowing the rules is not a justification even for newbies; when editing the webiste, you receive the disclaimer: "By publishing changes, you agree to the WP:Terms of Use". The level of warns were added for the patrolling bots and tools. file:Huggle3 kde ubuntu.png gives you an idea how Huggle perceives this (left column); silver is clean user, dark gray means something else (I haven't used Huggle in a while, possibly it means previously reverted, not warned), and the numbered squares the level of the warn. Whitelisted people won't appear in the tool. Twinkle doesn't use this system, but when warning it defaults to the next warn level. (CC) Tbhotch™ 20:30, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rats. Yes, I knew about {{ewsoft}}, just didn't remember it when I needed to. Thanks for the jog. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- {{ewsoft}} was what you probably intended. Not knowing the rules is not a justification even for newbies; when editing the webiste, you receive the disclaimer: "By publishing changes, you agree to the WP:Terms of Use". The level of warns were added for the patrolling bots and tools. file:Huggle3 kde ubuntu.png gives you an idea how Huggle perceives this (left column); silver is clean user, dark gray means something else (I haven't used Huggle in a while, possibly it means previously reverted, not warned), and the numbered squares the level of the warn. Whitelisted people won't appear in the tool. Twinkle doesn't use this system, but when warning it defaults to the next warn level. (CC) Tbhotch™ 20:30, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
And I see now that you have been an editor for a very long time, so I struggle to understand what motivated your action in this case? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:05, 17 April 2025 (UTC)