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Hello everyone, and welcome to the 26th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 August 2024. At press time, over 94% of the world has legally fallen prey to the merry celebrations of "Christmas", and so shall you soon. It's been a quiet 4 months, and we hope to see you with way more new scripts next year. Happy holidays! Aaron Liu (talk) 05:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
Featured script
Very useful for changelist patrollers, DiffUndo, by Nardog, is this edition's featured script. Taking inspiration from WP:AutoWikiBrowser's double-click-to-undo feature, it adds an undo button to every line of every diff from "show changes", optimizing partial reverts with your favorite magic spell and nearly fulfilling m:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Partial revert undo.
Miscellaneous
Doğu/Adiutor, a recent WP:Twinkle/WP:RedWarn-like userscript that follows modern WMF UI design, is now an extension. However, its sole maintainer has left the project, which still awaits WMF mw:code stewardship (among some audits) to be installed on your favorite WMF wikis.
DannyS712, our former chief editor, has ascended to MediaWiki and the greener purpley pastures of PHP with commits creating Special:NamespaceInfo and the __EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__ magic word to exclude a template from Special:UnusedTemplates! I wonder if Wikipedia has a templaters' newsletter...
BilledMammal/Move+ needs updating to order list of pages handle lists of pages to move correctly regardless of the discussion's page, so that we may avoid repeating fiasco history.
Andrybak/Unsigned helper forks Anomie/unsignedhelper to add support for binary search, automatic edit summaries after generating the {{unsigned}} template, support for {{undated}}, and support for generating while syntax highlighting is on.
Polygnotus/Move+ updates BilledMammal's classic Move+ to add automattic watchlisting of all pages—except the target page(s)—changed while processing a move.
Question from ElizabethLCT (17:45, 28 December 2024)
Hi! I just added an edit to the page about Squeaky Fromme (My first edit!) . I noticed that a lot of the references have hyperlinks. I mentioned a quote by Fran Drescher under the "Popular Culture" section. Should I link the actress' name to her entry in Wikipedia? What's the easiest way to do that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeaky_Fromme --ElizabethLCT (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi!
I wanted to add a word. My friends and I came up with a group and named it "KUMAGS." A group of friends that loves to hang out and eat, may it be a restaurant, cafe or a house gathering or party. As long as there is food, we contact each other and go to hang out and eat, and we call our group "KUMAGS." The reason for my desire to add this word, because at the moment there is a tagalog word "KUMAG" and it has a negative connotation or meaning. Our group is quite popular and bigger now, so I would like to see if we can add the word "KUMAGS" and give it a proper meaning other than the "KUMAG" word which shows as [noun] lazy idiot (slang); worthless or insignificant person (slang); small insect; flea.
I'm Filipino by birth and now a naturalized American. In the Philippines, we have over a hundred dialects, but our national language is tagalog. I speak Tagalog and Visayan. And our dialect varies so much, a single word could mean totally different from the other dialects. I can contribute some slang languages from the Philippines as well. I hope you can help me add the word KUMAGS in wikipedia. Thank you very much!
Deborah Steele --DebRigs (talk) 06:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
@DebRigs you are probably looking for our sister project, Tagalog Wiktionary. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not do word definitions in a dictionary-style, as it is an encyclopedia. There may be word based articles here, ie, happy, but they go beyond dictionary definitions. Do note that Wiktionary may have their own criteria of inclusion. Unfortunately, I am beyond help in that area and you will have to explore the project on your own. – robertsky (talk) 06:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
@Lorrainediani, unfortunately we don't offer that kind of advice here. Please seek help from other places like reddit.com or search on Google with your laptop brand and model for advice and tips on improving your laptop performance. – robertsky (talk) 12:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
It is at least plausibly read as describing the Nazi invasions of Poland and Western Europe as "miracles", so "usernames that praise highly contentious people, groups [...], or events". – Joe (talk) 11:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Joe Roe I meant to respond earlier proper but have been putting off due to commitments irl. I didn't read too much into the connection with the locations and events and took the words as face value when processing the rename request. I was considering having a discussion with the editor, and Fram had done so in the meantime. The account has been renamed since. – robertsky (talk) 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
This information which I have given is written to find out the place and the Muslim Darji and other Darji, I have given the facts which you can see in the life of India. --12345asdflkj (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@12345asdflkj As stated on your talk page, additions to Wikipedia should be verifiable with a third-party sources rather than personal interpretations. If you have anything to add, please do so with third-party sources and not remove existing sourced information unnecessarily. – robertsky (talk) 03:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
Technical news
The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.
Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025! ♦ Maliner (talk) 02:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 66
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 66, November – December 2024
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
The Single User Login system is being updated over the next few months. This is the system which allows users to fill out the login form on one Wikimedia site and get logged in on all others at the same time. It needs to be updated because of the ways that browsers are increasingly restricting cross-domain cookies. To accommodate these restrictions, login and account creation pages will move to a central domain, but it will still appear to the user as if they are on the originating wiki. The updated code will be enabled this week for users on test wikis. This change is planned to roll out to all users during February and March. See the SUL3 project page for more details and a timeline.
Updates for editors
On wikis with PageAssessments installed, you can now filter search results to pages in a given WikiProject by using the inproject: keyword. (These wikis: Arabic Wikipedia, English Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, French Wikipedia, Hungarian Wikipedia, Nepali Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia) [1]
One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Tigre (w:tig:) [2]
View all 35 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a bug with updating a user's edit-count after making a rollback edit, which is now fixed. [3]
Updates for technical contributors
Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. Starting the week of January 13, we will begin rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints for all wiki projects. This change was previously available on testwiki and should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints may raise issues directly to the MediaWiki Interfaces Team in Phabricator if they arise.
Toolforge tool maintainers can now share their feedback on Toolforge UI, an initiative to provide a web platform that allows creating and managing Toolforge tools through a graphic interface, in addition to existing command-line workflows. This project aims to streamline active maintainers’ tasks, as well as make registration and deployment processes more accessible for new tool creators. The initiative is still at a very early stage, and the Cloud Services team is in the process of collecting feedback from the Toolforge community to help shape the solution to their needs. Read more and share your thoughts about Toolforge UI.
For tool and library developers who use the OAuth system: The identity endpoint used for OAuth 1 and OAuth 2 returned a JSON object with an integer in its sub field, which was incorrect (the field must always be a string). This has been fixed; the fix will be deployed to Wikimedia wikis on the week of January 13. [4]
Many wikis currently use Cite CSS to render custom footnote markers in Parsoid output. Starting January 20 these rules will be disabled, but the developers ask you to not clean up your MediaWiki:Common.css until February 20 to avoid issues during the migration. Your wikis might experience some small changes to footnote markers in Visual Editor and when using experimental Parsoid read mode, but if there are changes these are expected to bring the rendering in line with the legacy parser output. [5]
I hope you don't mind the slight change I just made to the description of AdminStatsBot 2. Incidentally, my recent name change appears to have confused something... I'm visible in the page history section but not the full totals list. — Hex•talk17:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, maybe my brain was having a special day yesterday because I swear it wasn't showing up on a Ctrl-F. Well, thanks! — Hex•talk12:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Tech News: 2025-04
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
Administrators can mass-delete multiple pages created by a user or IP address using Extension:Nuke. It previously only allowed deletion of pages created in the last 30 days. It can now delete pages from the last 90 days, provided it is targeting a specific user or IP address. [6]
On wikis that use the Patrolled edits feature, when the rollback feature is used to revert an unpatrolled page revision, that revision will now be marked as "manually patrolled" instead of "autopatrolled", which is more accurate. Some editors that use filters on Recent Changes may need to update their filter settings. [7]
View all 31 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the Visual Editor's "Insert link" feature did not always suggest existing pages properly when an editor started typing, which has now been fixed.
Updates for technical contributors
The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is being progressively removed from the wikis. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by DiscussionTools, which is used on any regular talk page. The last group of wikis (Catalan Wikiquote, Wikimedia Finland, Goan Konkani Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikibooks, Wikimedia Sweden) will soon be contacted. If you have questions about this process, please ping Trizek (WMF) at your wiki. [8]
The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available. This edition includes: updates about services from the Data Platform Engineering teams, information about Codex from the Design System team, and more.
Hi Robert. You closed this RM with the comment Per consensus, no primary, but there was no consensus of that kind. Two of us, including myself, supported the move, while another two opposed it. Only TiggerJay and I provided arguments for our positions. This means the support and opposition were even. I would appreciate it if you could amend your comment. Thank you, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 21:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, @Robertsky. About the photo inside the Killing of Wong Chik Yeok, I agree with your reasons that it might not fit the guidelines.[9] Personally I thought of taking down the photo, because it is directly linked to a bad case of personal attack and negative comments directed at me and some other wikieditors over the photos of murder victims and some other issues. The dust is settled for now with the guy being banned (it was inside the latest archives of ANI).[10] But I still have some concerns about the situation in the aftermath, and I thought it should be taken down not just because of your reasons behind nomination but likely I did not wish to be reminded of the terrible incident, which had been hanging over my head throughout the previous week. I understood some of the user's motivations regarding the photos but it is not what I agree with.
Hey @NelsonLee20042020 first off, there are times when every other active editors here will face a similar situation. I hope you can compartmentalize the situation and not let it affect you personally as much as possible and continue editing. With regard to the file deletion discussion, while I think there is scope for deletion within the policies here, I am unclear if it is as what the community thinks consensually, hence the discussion. I didn't want the earlier back and forth to detract a cordial discussion on the FfD space hence opening it only now rather than earlier. – robertsky (talk) 14:10, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Robertsky! I'm asking if I can close my nomination? I'm not withdrawing my nom but I want to closed the nomination of ITN of Gloria Romero, I do respect their votes, however, their explanation on opposing are so confusing and nonsense. Some votes on the oppose are valid, but mostly they're just attacking (or probably attacking) my nomination just because it's not well known and "Not featured on CNN, BBC or AP News". Tho, I don't care their votes per WP:FUCKVOTES and WP:IGNORE, They're uncivil on my nomination feel like so racist on my nomination just because it's not "super" well known. I want to hear your reply, thanks! ROY is WARTalk!12:22, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
@Royiswariii short answer is nope. The discussions on ITN close early when there is no consensus to post. Just disengage and let the discussion takes its course. You have done what you can do, any further and you may be called out for bludgeoning the discussion. You are frustrated, yes, but you might want to strike off the racist slant though (here and at ITNC), as from another point of view, it is casting aspersions at the others who have taken part in the discussion. – robertsky (talk) 12:30, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Patrollers and admins - what information or context about edits or users could help you to make patroller or admin decisions more quickly or easily? The Wikimedia Foundation wants to hear from you to help guide its upcoming annual plan. Please consider sharing your thoughts on this and 13 other questions to shape the technical direction for next year.
Updates for editors
iOS Wikipedia App users worldwide can now access a personalized Year in Review feature, which provides insights based on their reading and editing history on Wikipedia. This project is part of a broader effort to help welcome new readers as they discover and interact with encyclopedic content.
Edit patrollers now have a new feature available that can highlight potentially problematic new pages. When a page is created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted, a tag ('Recreated') will now be added, which users can filter for in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. [11]
Later this week, there will be a new warning for editors if they attempt to create a redirect that links to another redirect (a double redirect). The feature will recommend that they link directly to the second redirect's target page. Thanks to the user SomeRandomDeveloper for this improvement. [12]
Wikimedia wikis allow WebAuthn-based second factor checks (such as hardware tokens) during login, but the feature is fragile and has very few users. The MediaWiki Platform team is temporarily disabling adding new WebAuthn keys, to avoid interfering with the rollout of SUL3 (single user login version 3). Existing keys are unaffected. [13]
For developers that use the MediaWiki History dumps: The Data Platform Engineering team has added a couple of new fields to these dumps, to support the Temporary Accounts initiative. If you maintain software that reads those dumps, please review your code and the updated documentation, since the order of the fields in the row will change. There will also be one field rename: in the mediawiki_user_history dump, the anonymous field will be renamed to is_anonymous. The changes will take effect with the next release of the dumps in February. [14]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
Editors who use the "Special characters" editing-toolbar menu can now see the 32 special characters you have used most recently, across editing sessions on that wiki. This change should help make it easier to find the characters you use most often. The feature is in both the 2010 wikitext editor and VisualEditor. [15]
Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor can now create sublists with correct indentation by selecting the line(s) you want to indent and then clicking the toolbar buttons.[16] You can now also insert <code> tags using a new toolbar button.[17] Thanks to user stjn for these improvements.
Help is needed to ensure the citation generator works properly on each wiki.
(1) Administrators should update the local versions of the page MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json to include entries for preprint, standard, and dataset; Here are example diffs to replicate for 'preprint' and for 'standard' and 'dataset'.
(2.1) If the citoid map in the citation template used for these types of references is missing, one will need to be added. (2.2) If the citoid map does exist, the TemplateData will need to be updated to include new field names. Here are example updates for 'preprint' and for 'standard' and 'dataset'. The new fields that may need to be supported are archiveID, identifier, repository, organization, repositoryLocation, committee, and versionNumber. [18]
Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145
Please revert your move of Draft:Wikimedia New York City. I was attempting to contest it but got edit conflicted, I don't believe it's non-controversial. That draft clearly needs more work to be moved to the mainspace IMO and I kinda doubt the topic qualifies. SnowFire (talk) 14:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Question from Chubbychucker (03:06, 5 February 2025)
How did you become a mentor? Do you have a mentor? I'm very interesting in contributing to the largest bank of free information in the world. Is there a rank above mentor? Thanks, and I look forward to your response! --Chubbychucker (talk) 03:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
@Chubbychucker The mentorship module is a new functionality introduced just a couple of years back. As a preview to its capabilities, everyone was assigned a mentor be it new or old editor. There is no 'rank' among editors, however some editors may be entrusted by the community with additional user rights to help out with the administrative matters. Being a mentor is just simply to help newcomers in their editing journey. If you have issues with editing, you can ask your question here or at WP:Teahouse where there are likeminded editors assisting newcomers where possible. – robertsky (talk) 14:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
Question Dr.Vulpes If a Wikipedia page was created about me but is not viewable by others, please advise why it’s not viewable. Please advise me of the status. Thank you. --Kathryn Roginski (talk) 13:38, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
@Kathryn Roginski If a Wikipedia page was created, it should be at Kathryn Roginski. However, evidently, the article was not created. Looking at your edit contributions, it seems to be at User:Kathryn Roginski. This page is where is known as the "User space" (the article space is known as the "Main space"). The User space is not indexed by Google by default hence it is not searchable by other people.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
The Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has published a draft of their recommendations for the Wikimedia Foundation's Product and Technology department. They have recommended focusing on mobile experiences, particularly contributions. They request community feedback at the talk page by 21 February.
Updates for editors
The "Special pages" portlet link will be moved from the "Toolbox" into the "Navigation" section of the main menu's sidebar by default. This change is because the Toolbox is intended for tools relating to the current page, not tools relating to the site, so the link will be more logically and consistently located. To modify this behavior and update CSS styling, administrators can follow the instructions at T385346. [21]
As part of this year's work around improving the ways readers discover content on the wikis, the Web team will be running an experiment with a small number of readers that displays some suggestions for related or interesting articles within the search bar. Please check out the project page for more information.
View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the global blocks log will now be shown directly on the Special:CentralAuth page, similarly to global locks, to simplify the workflows for stewards. [23]
Updates for technical contributors
Wikidata now supports a special language as a "default for all languages" for labels and aliases. This is to avoid excessive duplication of the same information across many languages. If your Wikidata queries use labels, you may need to update them as some existing labels are getting removed. [24]
The function getDescription was invoked on every Wiki page read and accounts for ~2.5% of a page's total load time. The calculated value will now be cached, reducing load on Wikimedia servers. [25]
As part of the RESTBase deprecation effort, the /page/related endpoint has been blocked as of February 6, 2025, and will be removed soon. This timeline was chosen to align with the deprecation schedules for older Android and iOS versions. The stable alternative is the "morelike" action API in MediaWiki, and a migration example is available. The MediaWiki Interfaces team can be contacted for any questions. [26]
In depth
The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: Updates about the "Contribute" menu; details on some of the newest language editions of Wikipedia; details on new languages supported by the MediaWiki interface; updates on the Community-defined lists feature; and more.
The latest Chart Project newsletter is available. It includes updates on the progress towards bringing better visibility into global charts usage and support for categorizing pages in the Data namespace on Commons.
Just a reminder, you can't just move a category, you have to move all of the contents of the category, too, or set up a bot to do this for you. Otherwise, the category that is empty but has been moved is likely to be tagged for CSD C1 speedy deletion as an empty category. Thank you. LizRead!Talk!19:36, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
I saw you responded to a previous editor with a conflict of interest on the Discovery Land Company article. I am a new contact working on requests for that article so I wanted to see if you still had interest in the page and if so, let you know I have an open request.
Additionally, if this topic does interest you, I have a request on the Talk page about DLC's CEO Michael Meldman.
I decided to take part in editing in this platform to help the community. I have made one edit that was publish. So, I want more guidance, How I can more contribute to it. What are the other techniques and ways of editing..
Regards. --Ucasjoya (talk) 15:50, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
@Ucasjoya I have dropped a welcoming message with tutorial links. Upon reviewing your edits, please do not remove existing links to other Wikipedia articles, references or templates in your editing. It seems that your editing process is to copy the rendered text before hitting the edit button and pasting either it or a modified version into the editor as evidently seen at Special:Diff/1275707329. You do not need to do that. There is a "what you see is what you get" editing interface. I have cleaned up your edits after you. Please be more careful for future edits. :) – robertsky (talk) 00:12, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
@ArionStar, I understand your enthusiasm for getting this posted, but continued pushing on the discussion is not helpful. Editors, including admins, work at their own pace, and repeated nudging can be counterproductive. In the future, please let the process play out without excessive follow-ups. – robertsky (talk) 14:51, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Communities using growth tools can now showcase one event on the Special:Homepage for newcomers. This feature will help newcomers to be informed about editing activities they can participate in. Administrators can create a new event to showcase at Special:CommunityConfiguration. To learn more about this feature, please read the Diff post, have a look at the documentation, or contact the Growth team.
Updates for editors
Highlighted talk pages improvements
Starting next week, talk pages at these wikis – Spanish Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia – will get a new design. This change was extensively tested as a Beta feature and is the last step of talk pages improvements. [27]
You can now navigate to view a redirect page directly from its action pages, such as the history page. Previously, you were forced to first go to the redirect target. This change should help editors who work with redirects a lot. Thanks to user stjn for this improvement. [28]
When a Cite reference is reused many times, wikis currently show either numbers like "1.23" or localized alphabetic markers like "a b c" in the reference list. Previously, if there were so many reuses that the alphabetic markers were all used, an error message was displayed. As part of the work to modernize Cite customization, these errors will no longer be shown and instead the backlinks will fall back to showing numeric markers like "1.23" once the alphabetic markers are all used.
The log entries for each change to an editor's user-groups are now clearer by specifying exactly what has changed, instead of the plain before and after listings. Translators can help to update the localized versions. Thanks to user Msz2001 for these improvements.
A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to mass delete pages, to enable users to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. [29]
Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. Thanks to user MolecularPilot for this and the previous improvements. [30]
View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug was fixed in the configuration for the AV1 video file format, which enables these files to play again. [31]
Updates for technical contributors
Parsoid Read Views is going to be rolling out to most Wiktionaries over the next few weeks, following the successful transition of Wikivoyage to Parsoid Read Views last year. For more information, see the Parsoid/Parser Unification project page. [32][33]
Developers of tools that run on-wiki should note that mw.Uri is deprecated. Tools requiring mw.Uri must explicitly declare mediawiki.Uri as a ResourceLoader dependency, and should migrate to the browser native URL API soon. [34]
As a new editor, you won't be able to move articles until you reach auto-confirmed status. It is a time-limited and experience-limited (by number of edits) status. You can however make a technical request for another editor/admin to move it for you at Requested Moves/Technical Request.
Additionally, your username implies that you are a well-known person. Per WP:Username policy, your account shall be blocked until the account is verified. Please see the message that's being posted on your talk page. IF you are not the person or is represent the person, please request for a username change. – robertsky (talk) 02:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Hello! Where can I find my sandbox? Im not new to Wikipedia, this is a new account I made as a fresh start. I've never edited nor created articles but want to start. --Tkos1989 (talk) 04:21, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
I am an autopatrolled user so I don't really need my articles reviewed most of the time. However sometimes an article exists already as a redirect so I need to use WP:RM. I created the draft and someone moves it to override the redirect. Most of the time there is no issue.
What I do have an issue is a lot of times I have noticed, these pages are marked as unreviewed. I created the draft so shouldn't it already be marked as reviewed? Or is it because the person moving it doesn't have autopatrolled status?
Given this has happened a few times lately, is there a way to resolve this so I don't need to keep requesting for others to review articles that are moved over redirects? ImcdcContact01:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
@Imcdc that's strange. there are only two possibilities:
My impression is that the automatic review status is tagged on the article even when the page moves. If it functions otherwise without external intervention, there is a bug with the system or my impression is wrong.
If the page mover who processed your requests is also an NPP patroller, and assuming that the review status is unchanged, it could mean that the page mover had intentionally remove the auto reviewed status. You would have to ask the editor who processed your request what they saw in the page curation toolbar.
The latest example is Walton Enterprises. I created the original draft but its marked as unreviewed in NPP.
I would like to get page mover rights to skip asking people. However I will be only using the rights for my own articles as part of uncontroversial technical moves. Is this ok? ImcdcContact02:18, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
@Imcdc I was reviewing the moves you had made anyway, and despite the lack of requested moves discussions participation, I think it should be fine to grant you the rights. – robertsky (talk) 02:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for granting me the rights as well as reviewing the article above.
Just want to ask since you have access to page curation which I don't, does it provide the review history on Walton Enterprises? Are there any details from it to explain why it is not marked as reviewed despite the draft being created as an autopatrolled user? ImcdcContact02:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
There's no history shown for Walton Enterprises. Actually, my assumption on the article review status getting carried over might be wrong. @Novem Linguae, any insights that you may have? – robertsky (talk) 02:54, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Or is it because the person moving it doesn't have autopatrolled status? It's probably this. Moving across namespaces marks the page unreviewed, and the mover's autopatrolled status is the one that is checked for autopatrolled, not the creator's, I think. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:18, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
This probably makes sense. However I would provide two more recent examples. OC&C Strategy Consultants and Espressif Systems are two articles of mine that started in draft form. I have requested them to be moved to mainspace. Despite them being moved by David Gerald and Extraordinary Writ who are both admins, the pages were marked as unreviewed and I had to get a senior editor to help review them. I can understand if its regular users who don't have autopatrol status but it seems this issue even exists when admins are moving drafts across namespaces? ImcdcContact07:01, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Ah ok. Then I think we have our explanation for this issue. Basically if a non-autopatrol user moves pages across namespaces then the article will be marked unreviewed. Most users aren't autopatrolled so this makes sense. Its just a bit frustrating however if you are an autopatrolled user and someone without the autopatrol rights moves an article and you have to get it reviewed again. Now that I have page mover rights, this shouldn't be an issue for me so it should be solved now. However it is something to consider for other autopatrolled users who do not have as many rights. ImcdcContact07:13, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Question from SAMIR k hazra (07:08, 24 February 2025)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
Administrators can now customize how the Babel feature creates categories using Special:CommunityConfiguration/Babel. They can rename language categories, choose whether they should be auto-created, and adjust other settings. [35]
The wikimedia.org portal has been updated – and is receiving some ongoing improvements – to modernize and improve the accessibility of our portal pages. It now has better support for mobile layouts, updated wording and links, and better language support. Additionally, all of the Wikimedia project portals, such as wikibooks.org, now support dark mode when a reader is using that system setting. [36][37][38]
View all 30 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug was fixed that prevented clicking on search results in the web-interface for some Firefox for Android phone configurations. [40]
Meetings and events
The next Language Community Meeting is happening soon, February 28th at 14:00 UTC. This week's meeting will cover: highlights and technical updates on keyboard and tools for the Sámi languages, Translatewiki.net contributions from the Bahasa Lampung community in Indonesia, and technical Q&A. If you'd like to join, simply sign up on the wiki page.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
All logged-in editors using the mobile view can now edit a full page. The "Edit full page" link is accessible from the "More" menu in the toolbar. This was previously only available to editors using the Advanced mobile contributions setting. [41]
Interface administrators can now help to remove the deprecated Cite CSS code matching "mw-ref" from their local MediaWiki:Common.css. The list of wikis in need of cleanup, and the code to remove, can be found with this global search and in this example, and you can learn more about how to help on the CSS migration project page. The Cite footnote markers ("[1]") are now rendered by Parsoid, and the deprecated CSS is no longer needed. The CSS for backlinks ("mw:referencedBy") should remain in place for now. This cleanup is expected to cause no visible changes for readers. Please help to remove this code before March 20, after which the development team will do it for you.
When editors embed a file (e.g. [[File:MediaWiki.png]]) on a page that is protected with cascading protection, the software will no longer restrict edits to the file description page, only to new file uploads.[42] In contrast, transcluding a file description page (e.g. {{:File:MediaWiki.png}}) will now restrict edits to the page.[43]
When editors revert a file to an earlier version it will now require the same permissions as ordinarily uploading a new version of the file. The software now checks for 'reupload' or 'reupload-own' rights,[44] and respects cascading protection.[45]
When administrators are listing pages for deletion with the Nuke tool, they can now also list associated talk pages and redirects for deletion, alongside pages created by the target, rather than needing to manually delete these pages afterwards. [46]
The previously noted update to Single User Login, which will accommodate browser restrictions on cross-domain cookies by moving login and account creation to a central domain, will now roll out to all users during March and April. The team plans to enable it for all new account creation on Group0 wikis this week. See the SUL3 project page for more details and an updated timeline.
Since last week there has been a bug that shows some interface icons as black squares until the page has fully loaded. It will be fixed this week. [47]
View all 23 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug was fixed with loading images in very old versions of the Firefox browser on mobile. [49]
A request for comment is open to discuss whether AI-generated images (meaning those wholly created by generative AI, not human-created images modified with AI tools) should be banned from use in articles.
A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. T378488
Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. T376378
Kiat Lim, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.
If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.
Draft:JioStar, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:JioStar and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:JioStar during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 05:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
Editors who use password managers at multiple wikis may notice changes in the future. The way that our wikis provide information to password managers about reusing passwords across domains has recently been updated, so some password managers might now offer you login credentials that you saved for a different Wikimedia site. Some password managers already did this, and are now doing it for more Wikimedia domains. This is part of the SUL3 project which aims to improve how our unified login works, and to keep it compatible with ongoing changes to the web-browsers we use. [50][51]
The Wikipedia Apps Team is inviting interested users to help improve Wikipedia’s offline and limited internet use. After discussions in Afrika Baraza and the last ESEAP call, key challenges like search, editing, and offline access are being explored, with upcoming focus groups to dive deeper into these topics. All languages are welcome, and interpretation will be available. Want to share your thoughts? Join the discussion or email aramadan@wikimedia.org!
All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 19. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.
The latest quarterly Growth newsletter is available. It includes: the launch of the Community Updates module, the most recent changes in Community Configuration, and the upcoming test of in-article suggestions for first-time editors.
An old API that was previously used in the Android Wikipedia app is being removed at the end of March. There are no current software uses, but users of the app with a version that is older than 6 months by the time of removal (2025-03-31), will no longer have access to the Suggested Edits feature, until they update their app. You can read more details about this change.
Hello. I hope you are doing great. I am keen to help the Doctor community of Pakistan based on my rare disease expertise and want to create their bio profiles. Can I do this? If not, why not? If yes, then what are the prerequisites for it? --Shahbaz Sarfraz Khokhar (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
@Shahbaz Sarfraz Khokhar not all doctors are automatically notable. Their biographies have to fulfil our WP:GNG and WP:NBIO notability standards. If they are professors, there are specific carve outs at WP:NPROF. At the basic level, do they have at least three independent, third-party, reliable sources for a short writeup? I suggest starting in your sandbox first rather writing in the mainspace. – robertsky (talk) 03:49, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Twice a year, around the equinoxes, the Wikimedia Foundation's Site Reliability Engineering (SRE) team performs a datacenter server switchover, redirecting all traffic from one primary server to its backup. This provides reliability in case of a crisis, as we can always fall back on the other datacenter. Thanks to the Listen to Wikipedia tool, you can hear the switchover take place: Before it begins, you'll hear the steady stream of edits; Then, as the system enters a brief read-only phase, the sound stops for a couple of minutes, before resuming after the switchover. You can read more about the background and details of this process on the Diff blog. If you want to keep an ear out for the next server switchover, listen to the wikis on March 19 at 14:00 UTC.
On Wikimedia Commons, a new system to select the appropriate file categories has been introduced: if a category has one or more subcategories, users will be able to click on an arrow that will open the subcategories directly within the form, and choose the correct one. The parent category name will always be shown on top, and it will always be possible to come back to it. This should decrease the amount of work for volunteers in fixing/creating new categories. The change is also available on mobile. These changes are part of planned improvements to the UploadWizard.
The Community Tech team is seeking wikis to join a pilot for the Multiblocks feature and a refreshed Special:Block page in late March. Multiblocks enables administrators to impose multiple different types of blocks on the same user at the same time. If you are an admin or steward and would like us to discuss joining the pilot with your community, please leave a message on the project talk page.
Starting March 25, the Editing team will test a new feature for Edit Check at 12 Wikipedias: Multi-Check. Half of the newcomers on these wikis will see all Reference Checks during their edit session, while the other half will continue seeing only one. The goal of this test is to see if users are confused or discouraged when shown multiple Reference Checks (when relevant) within a single editing session. At these wikis, the tags used on edits that show References Check will be simplified, as multiple tags could be shown within a single edit. Changes to the tags are documented on Phabricator. [52]
The Global reminder bot, which is a service for notifying users that their temporary user-rights are about to expire, now supports using the localized name of the user-rights group in the message heading. Translators can see the listing of existing translations and documentation to check if their language needs updating or creation.
The GlobalPreferences gender setting, which is used for how the software should refer to you in interface messages, now works as expected by overriding the local defaults. [53]
View all 26 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the Wikipedia App for Android had a bug fixed for when a user is browsing and searching in multiple languages. [54]
Updates for technical contributors
Later this week, the way that Codex styles are loaded will be changing. There is a small risk that this may result in unstyled interface message boxes on certain pages. User generated content (e.g. templates) is not impacted. Gadgets may be impacted. If you see any issues please report them. See the linked task for details, screenshots, and documentation on how to fix any affected gadgets.
Do you think my page is looking cool. You might not understand much but it's about the pop culture phenomenon "Skibidi Toilet" and how it has changed the memes --Baba tundddeeee (talk) 10:13, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 67
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
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The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking your feedback on the drafts of the objectives and key results that will shape the Foundation's Product and Technology priorities for the next fiscal year (starting in July). The objectives are broad high-level areas, and the key-results are measurable ways to track the success of their objectives. Please share your feedback on the talkpage, in any language, ideally before the end of April.
Updates for editors
The CampaignEvents extension will be released to multiple wikis (see deployment plan for details) in April 2025, and the team has begun the process of engaging communities on the identified wikis. The extension provides tools to organize, manage, and promote collaborative activities (like events, edit-a-thons, and WikiProjects) on the wikis. The extension has three tools: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation Lists. It is currently on 13 Wikipedias, including English Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, and Spanish Wikipedia, as well as Wikidata. Questions or requests can be directed to the extension talk page or in Phabricator (with #campaigns-product-team tag).
Starting the week of March 31st, wikis will be able to set which user groups can view private registrants in Event Registration, as part of the CampaignEvents extension. By default, event organizers and the local wiki admins will be able to see private registrants. This is a change from the current behavior, in which only event organizers can see private registrants. Wikis can change the default setup by requesting a configuration change in Phabricator (and adding the #campaigns-product-team tag). Participants of past events can cancel their registration at any time.
Administrators at wikis that have a customized MediaWiki:Sidebar should check that it contains an entry for the Special pages listing. If it does not, they should add it using * specialpages-url|specialpages. Wikis with a default sidebar will see the link moved from the page toolbox into the sidebar menu in April. [55]
The Minerva skin (mobile web) combines both Notice and Alert notifications within the bell icon (). There was a long-standing bug where an indication for new notifications was only shown if you had unseen Alerts. This bug is now fixed. In the future, Minerva users will notice a counter atop the bell icon when you have 1 or more unseen Notices and/or Alerts. [56]
VisualEditor has introduced a new client-side hook for developers to use when integrating with the VisualEditor target lifecycle. This hook should replace the existing lifecycle-related hooks, and be more consistent between different platforms. In addition, the new hook will apply to uses of VisualEditor outside of just full article editing, allowing gadgets to interact with the editor in DiscussionTools as well. The Editing Team intends to deprecate and eventually remove the old lifecycle hooks, so any use cases that this new hook does not cover would be of interest to them and can be shared in the task.
Developers who use the mw.Api JavaScript library, can now identify the tool using it with the userAgent parameter: var api = new mw.Api( { userAgent: 'GadgetNameHere/1.0.1' } );. If you maintain a gadget or user script, please set a user agent, because it helps with library and server maintenance and with differentiating between legitimate and illegitimate traffic. [57][58]
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Hello! How do I actually create a new page? I know that this topic that I wanted to make an article on hasn’t been discussed on Wikipedia already, so how do I start? --Yareulookingatmyname (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi there,
I have a question. I made the first edit. I would like to add a source to it. How can do that?
Thanks! --SportyBER (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Tech News: 2025-14
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
The Editing team is working on a new Edit check: Peacock check. This check's goal is to identify non-neutral terms while a user is editing a wikipage, so that they can be informed that their edit should perhaps be changed before they publish it. This project is at the early stages, and the team is looking for communities' input: in this Phabricator task, they are gathering on-wiki policies, templates used to tag non-neutral articles, and the terms (jargon and keywords) used in edit summaries for the languages they are currently researching. You can participate by editing the table on Phabricator, commenting on the task, or directly messaging Trizek (WMF).
Single User Login has now been updated on all wikis to move login and account creation to a central domain. This makes user login compatible with browser restrictions on cross-domain cookies, which have prevented users of some browsers from staying logged in.
Starting on March 31st, the MediaWiki Interfaces team will begin a limited release of generated OpenAPI specs and a SwaggerUI-based sandbox experience for MediaWiki REST APIs. They invite developers from a limited group of non-English Wikipedia communities (Arabic, German, French, Hebrew, Interlingua, Dutch, Chinese) to review the documentation and experiment with the sandbox in their preferred language. In addition to these specific Wikipedia projects, the sandbox and OpenAPI spec will be available on the on the test wiki REST Sandbox special page for developers with English as their preferred language. During the preview period, the MediaWiki Interfaces Team also invites developers to share feedback about your experience. The preview will last for approximately 2 weeks, after which the sandbox and OpenAPI specs will be made available across all wiki projects.
Sometimes a small, one line code change can have great significance: in this case, it means that for the first time in years we're able to run all of the stack serving maps.wikimedia.org - a host dedicated to serving our wikis and their multi-lingual maps needs - from a single core datacenter, something we test every time we perform a datacenter switchover. This is important because it means that in case one of our datacenters is affected by a catastrophe, we'll still be able to serve the site. This change is the result of extensive work by two developers on porting the last component of the maps stack over to kubernetes, where we can allocate resources more efficiently than before, thus we're able to withstand more traffic in a single datacenter. This work involved a lot of complicated steps because this software, and the software libraries it uses, required many long overdue upgrades. This type of work makes the Wikimedia infrastructure more sustainable.
Meetings and events
MediaWiki Users and Developers Workshop Spring 2025 is happening in Sandusky, USA, and online, from 14–16 May 2025. The workshop will feature discussions around the usage of MediaWiki software by and within companies in different industries and will inspire and onboard new users. Registration and presentation signup is now available at the workshop's website.
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View all 35 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a bug with updating a user's edit-count after making a rollback edit, which is now fixed. [3]
Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. Starting the week of January 13, we will begin rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints for all wiki projects. This change was previously available on testwiki and should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints may raise issues directly to the MediaWiki Interfaces Team in Phabricator if they arise.![[9]](/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2025_January_24#File:Wong_Chik_Yeok.png){kind=link}
Edit patrollers now have a new feature available that can highlight potentially problematic new pages. When a page is created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted, a tag ('Recreated') will now be added, which users can filter for in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. [11]
Oversighter changes
Draft:JioStar, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:JioStar and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:JioStar during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 05:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
). There was a long-standing bug where an indication for new notifications was only shown if you had unseen Alerts. This bug is now fixed. In the future, Minerva users will notice a counter atop the bell icon when you have 1 or more unseen Notices and/or Alerts. [56]