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Can you move Draft:Council for Foreign and Defense Policy from draft to a normal article space?
[edit]Hello Mr. Randolph Finder I found your name here:
Congratulations on being one of the anointed. 😀
Can you move this draft article out of draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Council_for_Foreign_and_Defense_Policy
Thank you in advance. Have a wonderful day. Metro2fsb (talk) 06:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Sigma Mu Delta
[edit]I am pretty sure it is a lost battle to fight the deletion challenge of Sigma Mu Delta. Although your comment would be welcome, as always. I felt that I had met the initial challenge by finding sources, but the two extensions of the challenge appear to be a hunt for "delete" votes. I know you are much more experienced in these matters. Is it possible to win this type of challenge where the sources are campus and university oriented? In other areas of Wikipedia, I find that the deletion discussions look at the subject itself, as well as the sources--but this is the second time I have come across this type of debate with fraternities. My concern is the shear number of fraternal articles in Wikipedia that either lack independent sources or are similarly sourced. Should our focus shift to fixing those articles, rather than worrying about lists and mergers? Or are we really working on content that does not belong in Wikipedia? Maybe I am having a existential crisis as I pride myself in my ability to find sources. Rublamb (talk) 18:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- JAX just found Simga Mu Delta in the almanac. We had both looked in coed, not all male. Don't know if that will make a difference, but at least it validates my gut that this group was notable. Rublamb (talk) 08:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1888 disestablishments in Maryland
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A tag has been placed on Category:1888 disestablishments in Maryland indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
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- Liz After further research and expansion of Maryland Military and Naval Academy, it was determined that the school closed in 1887, not 1888. As such I will not be challenging the deletion. Thank you for marking it.Naraht (talk) 13:25, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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Your draft article, Draft:Omega Delta
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Recent URL cleanup and params
[edit]Hi Naraht. Some of the recent citations you have cleaned up have removed the parameter:
|website=web.archive.org
and I wonder if that suppresses Wikipedia from occasionally searching for dead links and replacing them with Wayback archives. Certainly, if a source goes bad, a Wayback archive is preferable to a dead link. Do I misunderstand here? Jax MN (talk) 22:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- The other edits you have recently triggered using the Citationbot are clear to me, and helpful. Jax MN (talk) 22:03, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Jax MN I'm not honestly sure *when* web.archive.org is the proper website. Can you give me an example that isn't a Wayback link? If so, you can also bring it up on Citation bot's page.Naraht (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'll look for one to bring as an example. Sadly, there have been so many pages updated today that I will have to sift for awhile. Jax MN (talk) 00:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Jax MN I think Christian fraternities is an example, but it is correct as a wayback archive, the website=web.archive.org is incorrect.Naraht (talk) 00:26, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'll look for one to bring as an example. Sadly, there have been so many pages updated today that I will have to sift for awhile. Jax MN (talk) 00:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Jax MN I'm not honestly sure *when* web.archive.org is the proper website. Can you give me an example that isn't a Wayback link? If so, you can also bring it up on Citation bot's page.Naraht (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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CS1 error on Sigma Nu Phi
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CS1 error on List of Alpha Delta Pi chapters
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Re: ADPi chapter list
[edit]I'd suggest you use the earlier date for Alpha chapter, as they simply renamed themselves prior to beginning their national expansion and their first daughter chapter. This matches a number of other precedents. Jax MN (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Bradford Gilbert
[edit]I was excited to see that I editor I trust has looked at the Bradford Gilbert article. I have been working on this article on and off for a long time--it is one of the first articles I decided to improve. (Working on architects is how I ended up editing fraternity articles). It it pretty much ready for a GA nomination, although I have another huge scandal to add to the persona life section. But I need a second set of eyes on my table of projects. Tables are not used by the WP Archicture although I have introduced this format to many articles without any negative feedback. As a result, I did not have template to follow. These days, I stick to listing surviving buildings but Gilbert had so many important projects that are no longer survivng that I experimented with a status column. Does this make sense? Is it helpful to indicate things like museum, etc. or should I stick to surviving or demolished? Thanks! Rublamb (talk) 20:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Rublamb Sorry, all I did was look for situations where Kansas had the wrong post office abbreviation. That was just one of the pages... I'll look when I have chance.Naraht (talk) 23:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Rublamb tweeked the table, found a few places where articles should add a link there. Consider making either Bradford L. Gilbert or Bradford Lee Gilbert redirects to the article.Naraht (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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CS1 error on List of Ig Nobel Prize winners
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Liza-shankar (talk) 00:39, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Thank you for removing all of the pesky mottos! Marquardtika (talk) 15:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
Marquardtika That's what AWB is for and I've been helping OpalYosutebito.Naraht (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Blackguardly, I call it. Why were mottoes created? To inform people of some important intention or aspiration of a body. They are useful things to reference. Urselius (talk) 12:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Blackguardly They weren't being displayed by the infobox, as such, the article displays completely the same without them.Naraht (talk) 13:47, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Mottoes
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Ref-breaking
[edit]Obviously no objection to removing unsupported parameters, and with clear edit-summary about it! But [1] also removed a named-ref that was re-used elsewhere, leaving a visible error. Might want to double-check for "<ref name" in your AWB regexp. DMacks (talk) 04:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- DMacks fixed the article and I'll work on adding that.Naraht (talk) 04:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick fix (and the general AWB work!). DMacks (talk) 04:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
