User talk:Arjayay/Archive 35
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Have a look
Have a look at this ew. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:48, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry Fylindfotberserk, I've been away for the last 9 days, but you seem to have resolved it - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:25, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks and most welcome
. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:30, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure what to do with these NSCHOOL related additions. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:43, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Personally, I'd delete those without refs, wikilink the rest, sort + tag for clean-up between the blue(s) + reds - Arjayay (talk) 11:50, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thinking the same. I've noted down a few articles. Would do the necessary possibly in the next few weeks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:52, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Personally, I'd delete those without refs, wikilink the rest, sort + tag for clean-up between the blue(s) + reds - Arjayay (talk) 11:50, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure what to do with these NSCHOOL related additions. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:43, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks and most welcome
You removed the Hindustani spellings of Shaikh Paltu saying that they have been removed due to the Wikipedia policy that Indic scripts should not be used. Okay, it's fine. But, long before you even edited the page, Devanagri spelling of his name was there for a long time but as soon as I wrote the Nastaliq spelling of his name, you removed both the versions. Besides, Shaikh Paltu was from North India and Hindustani is and was a prominent language in the area. So, it isn't too wrong to add the Hindustani spellings.
So, I am adding the spellings again and request you to not remove them as it only increases the information and not decreases the information or vandalizes the page. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 11:19, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Amogh Tripathi Please do not vandalise that article. WP:NOINDICSCRIPT clearly applies, and the fact that it had not been picked up and deleted earlier, is totally irrelevant. - Arjayay (talk) 11:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
Request for A Talented Bangladeshi Musician profile creation
Hello sir, I want to talk about Request for A Talented Bangladeshi Musician profile creation, please response my message Maturealert (talk) 05:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry Maturealert, I know nothing about Bangladeshi musicians, and I don't have enough time to create articles about things I do know about, and am interested in.
Wikipedia is not interested in whether they are "talented", but whether they are "notable", in Wikipedia's meaning of the word. Do you have at least three references that meet WP:42 ? - i.e. that- Give significant coverage and discuss the topic directly and in detail, not just passing mentions, lists or event schedules.
and - Are reliable, issued by a publisher with a reputation for fact checking, not tabloid papers or magazines, fansites, social media, or blogs.
and - Are independent from the subject of the article. Not interviews, press releases, or other material written, or paid for, by the subject, their friends, or agents.
- Give significant coverage and discuss the topic directly and in detail, not just passing mentions, lists or event schedules.
- Each of your three references must meet all 3 criteria, not one meeting one criterion and another meeting a different one. If you do not have such references, please don't waste your time, or the reviewers time, creating an article, as it will almost certainly not be approved. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:06, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot Sir Maturealert (talk) 07:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Buddhism population in China
Hey. I have seen you have been reverting IP edits in Buddhism by country. Just to let you know, I agree with your view that there seems to be some coordinated movement of IP addresses to inflate the number of followers especially in China. The most clearcut figure is page 24 of this PDF by formal affiliation. The 33% is misleading since its just worship of Buddha rather than official affiliation those same responders also follow other religions like Chinese folk religion which is basically double counting. The math simply does not add up when looking at all the other religions they also follow and trying to add them up. I also have reason to think they are not coming when the best intention when they replaced an entire data source for many countries with one just focused on China making the sourcing completely wrong (i have corrected it btw).
Anyway be on the lookout for multiple pages. The impact is pretty significant here. Who knows how many have been mislead since the actions weren't corrected for a long time. I normally don't really care about this stuff since I'm not as active as before but I just couldn't let it slide when looking into it further. Imcdc Contact 12:19, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Imcdc - Thank you for the time you have spent trying to tidy up this mess. I am currently watching one account and 5 IPs (4 from Bangladesh(!) and one from Faridabad, India), with regard to this. Unfortunately, I have had other calls on my time, so have not been able to delve back into the earlier falsifications, so thanks again for doing that. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Requesting review
Hello Friend ,
I hope you are doing well. I thank you for your advise and edits on Sikand (surname). I request you to allow some of your time to also check the following. I also tried adding one in Peer review but it was not added in the list. Thus, I am sharing it here.
There is a problem in my Sandbox as I can't seem to edit it. I have added all the pages here and can you please let me know how to get them approved as well?
2) Arvind Walia
3) Bimbet
5) Padamjit Singh Ahluwalia HilssaMansen19 (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry HilssaMansen19 I'm not sure what you are asking. The five articles you have listed above, do not need "approval", but they will need reviewing by a WP:New page reviewer before they are eligible for inclusion in search engines. As I am not a "New page reviewer", I cannot do that, and you will have to wait your turn, as there are currently 18,072 pages awaiting review. Unreviewed articles are prevented from being indexed by search engines for 90 days. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:19, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your wishes and solving the exact doubts I had. I was thinking there is a problem with not writing through Sandbox as my Sandbox is not working.
- I will try and find some help from the page you shared.
- Good day/evening ahead to you! HilssaMansen19 (talk) 19:02, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Anon changing film remake sources
42.105.196.81/24 (talk · contribs) is changing a lot of films' remakes. Often making it a remake of a Bengali film. Most is unsourced, so not sure what to do with this. Suggestions? Thanks! Adakiko (talk) 21:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Adakiko, I am not an Admin, and, given how many edits you have made, I'm sure you know the standard procedure:
Revert such unsourced changes with a clear edit summary, and warn the editor, escalating these warnings as per WP:WARNING if they continue.
So far in April, only 2 IPs in the range you have given have made edits, but if they continue after a level 4 (final) warning, list the IPs at WP:AIV and request a rangeblock. As neither IP has received any warnings, currently admins will not be very interested. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 10:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi, Urdu isn't an Indic script. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {u - t? - uselessc} 18:22, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- No Matrix. Any non-latin script is deemed an "Indic script" - this was discussed with regards to Arabic about 10 years ago. - Arjayay (talk) 18:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Kindly link the discussion. Also this doesn't really much make sense as Perso-Arabic script is simply not Indic. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {u - t? -
uselessc} 19:44, 19 March 2025 (UTC)- Fair request Matrix. The trouble with my having been here over 17 years is recalling exactly when/where something was discussed.
My initial search has drawn a blank, but I did discover a current discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/India-related articles#Specify Urdu alphabet in MOS:INDICSCRIPT?. Rather than us having a private discussion, which will carry no weight with the rest of the community, I suggest you join in that public discussion. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)- @Arjayay I just saw the conflicting edits in the revision history of the page. At The WP: NOINDICSCRIPTS it's highlighted that urdu doesn't fall in the category as it uses Arabic script. If this isn't true, does the page need to be revised for errors or untrue information? saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 05:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fair request Matrix. The trouble with my having been here over 17 years is recalling exactly when/where something was discussed.
- Kindly link the discussion. Also this doesn't really much make sense as Perso-Arabic script is simply not Indic. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {u - t? -
Edit Reference for the page Irinjalakuda
Hi Arjayay
Thanks for pointing out the missing reference. Will add the details and add a reference. Newbie editor issues. Georgethomasp (talk) 10:44, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Italian Sikh IP
Hi @Arjayay, is there anyway we can get that Italian Sikh IP starting with 93 banned from Wikipedia? They have been vandalizing/disrupting for a few years now. MaplesyrupSushi (talk) 19:07, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
You do a lot of good work, specifically though, thanks for cleaning up after me on the Mark Monmonier article. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 15:44, 14 April 2025 (UTC) |
Review on "The Pathway School" (new page)
Dear @Arjayay, I dont think the new page I've created and moved The Pathway School has been reviewed yet. Does it require a New Page Patroller to review it to have the page show up on Google searches (since it doesnt show up on searches yet)?
can you kindly review it for me? Thanks Puia 98 (talk) 15:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Puia 98, yes it does need reviewing, or 90 days to elapse, before it is allowed to be listed by search engines. However, I am not a newpage reviewer, so I cannot do that for you. Currently there is a very large backlog of 19053 pages waiting to be patrolled, and that has grown by 91 in the last day. You will just have to be patient. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 15:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- thank you Puia 98 (talk) 15:33, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Jaat (film)
Hi sir , hope you are doing well. The box office collection of the movie is incomplete and do not include gross and worldwide collection. I request you to change the box office and its source , currently the source is based of several assumptions and didn't change frequently laging behind the other and didn't even had a proper basic mathematical calculation I am adding an official source which is followed by every entertainment website. Kindly update it with Gross Worldwide Collection ..Source..
https://www.sacnilk.com/movie/Jaat_2025
....Thanking you
Not done Sacnilk is not a WP:reliable source as per WP:ICTFSOURCES - Arjayay (talk) 08:44, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
ANI Notice - Thread
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 09:53, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Sock?
IP maybe a sock of this SF. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:43, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry Fylindfotberserk, I'm not an expert on Srimonbanik2007, I used to follow him, but I thought he had given up a couple of years ago.
I note that the IP in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Srimonbanik2007/Archive - 2405:201:AC03:131:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) that you said "does look like Srimonbanik2007" locates to Churachandpur, Manipur, whereas the latest one 2409:40E6:1D:F36E:8000:0:0:0 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) locates to Guwahati, Assam. These towns are 547km apart by road, making it less likely, but the IP could be from somewhere in between, that registers to the main towns. - Good luck - Arjayay (talk) 13:08, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Kudos
@Arjayay, this edit made me marvel, once again, at your ability to spot and clean up duplicate words. Thanks! PRRfan (talk) 15:57, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
Request for a Welcome Message
Hello, I've been editing Wikipedia for nearly two months now, but I noticed that I haven't received a welcome message yet on my user talk page. If you have the time, I would really appreciate it if you could leave one. Thank you very much in advance!Yuzy Okkotsu1 (☎) 08:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, Yuzy Okkotsu1, but I am not on the Welcoming committee, and after 1230 edits, it seems rather late. AFAIK they only welcome new users, so you are unlikely to receive a message now, although you have already received a kitten. However, I thank you for your edits and the new articles you have created. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
first addition to wikipedia
hey there, I have been studying my family history every day for nearly a decade. The article I chose to write about is Judge David Jenkins Royalist. He is my 10th direct grandfather and the first person to take Jenkins as a surname. I sent you a response with various citations. you told me I could post it again, but I don't know where to find what I wrote and I didn't save it or copy it anywhere else. All of the information is duly correct. This particular family line is literally like the movie the Da Vinci Code. I am the only male survivor of this family that does in fact go through King Arthur, real name Caradog Freichfras, Caratacus whose son Linus wasthe first Pope and Bishop of Rome for 12 years. You can find Linus in the Bible. His father was Bran the blessed The first Royal Christian convert. He was King of Britain, he was also married to the heir of Augustus. This is why you had the Caligulas and Neros and Tiberius types as they were adopted they weren't blood lineage Rulers. And John The Baptist was the Father Of Bran, And although he too was King of Britain as well as the de jure high priest and Messianic Levite King of Israel. Jesus was the Messianic King of Judah these are two separate ideas but they were in fact cousins.
There are wikipedia articles that have Tasciovanus (John The Baptist) and all the others I have mentioned. they are also mention in the mabinogion. and as I already did for you on what I thought was your talk page I cited the book by Gardner hidden lineage of Jesus christ. Theres also ancientwalesstudies.org multiple pedigrees from the time in Wales just before Jesus and John all the way to the last king who ruled in our family line Bleddyn ap Maenarch, he was killed by newmarch one of william the bastards barons and a few generations later the women in newmarchs family have married their way into the Wnglish Royalty. To be fair this is very sensitive information. It also means that this writer by de jure lineal definition is in fact the true Prince of Wales. My family literally started the Christian Kingdom, were kings of south Wales and various other parts, wessex at one point, gwennded only briefly, malienodd, brychneiog, eywas, gwent, glyswing, morganng, glamorgan. the last four or fice of those are all basically the same place with name changes for various reasons including a never ending onslought of invaders.
I have been to Wales twice, last year and they treat me like their prince. I have been to Cowbridge many times where Judge David Jenkins is buried Cowbridge. Its also where Leoline Jenkins secretary of state under charles 2nd grew up and went to famous Cowbridge grammar school as did Anthony Hopkins the actor.
Anyway just let me know what you want from me I promise you I know what I am talking about. MichaelBradleyJenkins (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi MichaelBradleyJenkins, I issued you a standard template warning about making unsourced/unreliably sourced additions.
None of the three "sources" you have since listed on your talk page are acceptable: the first is a blog, and the other two are Wikipedia pages, none of these are reliable sources.
From your comments above, it sounds as if you have conducted original research, and are now trying to add that to Wikipedia, but Wikipedia does not accept WP:Original research. My recommendation is that you forget trying to add this to Wikipedia, and find another website that accepts such claims. Failing that, please discuss this at Talk:David Jenkins (Royalist), although most of the previous editors to the article have not been very active of late. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 21:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
You are not updating and trying to drag down the box office collection of Retro. Even reliable sites have given the correct figures and you are still editing it back to the first day collection. You are doing this because Suriya may not be your favourite actor. This is unfair.
Incorrect updation of box office gross of Retro. EdiAnandu (talk) 10:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- No EdiAnandu, all I am doing is removing unsourced, and unreliably sourced, claims. It was because of the large number of such claims that the page was protected. If you have a WP:Reliable source - please post a request at Talk:Retro (film), but please check WP:ICTFSOURCES first, to ensure it is a WP:Reliable source - there are more unreliable sources than reliable ones. - Arjayay (talk) 10:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- But even in the reliable site like New18 the collection figures are higher than what you have given. EdiAnandu (talk) 10:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- EdiAnandu I assume you mean News18 India? As that is listed as a "reliable source" at WP:ICTFSOURCES, you can add News18 India, but please make sure you add a full reference at the same time, so others can check it. - Arjayay (talk) 11:07, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok. EdiAnandu (talk) 11:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- I corrected the box office gross according to another reliable site named mint news. EdiAnandu (talk) 11:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- EdiAnandu I assume you mean News18 India? As that is listed as a "reliable source" at WP:ICTFSOURCES, you can add News18 India, but please make sure you add a full reference at the same time, so others can check it. - Arjayay (talk) 11:07, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- But even in the reliable site like New18 the collection figures are higher than what you have given. EdiAnandu (talk) 10:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Article Syed Adil Hussain Shah shouldn't be deleted
Hi @Arjayay someone requested article that I created Syed Adil Hussain Shah to be deleted for not having notability. I request can u have a look at it since you have been a Wikipedia for 17-15 years? Doesn't it have notability since he was assassinated while disarming terrorists that were targeting hindu tourist. BangashTalib (talk) 16:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Arjayay please leave a message on the talk page topic I created on Syed Adil Hussain Shah talk page BangashTalib (talk) 16:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Arjayay I don't think u need to look a t now since I read the reasosn why the editor proposed it for deletion. I understand now why it's proposed for deletion BangashTalib (talk) 22:18, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Page helping
Hello, @Arjayay. Can you please help me edit my Digital Outdoor Menu Board page? I would like more information to be added and better citations. Thank you. Floating Orb (talk) 04:30, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, Floating Orb, I know nothing about Digital Outdoor Menu Boards and am not really interested in them, whilst I don't have enough time to edit articles I am interested in. My sole edit to that page was to remove a double "the", and you don't need to know about a subject to remove a double word. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 10:35, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for catching duplicates
I'm unsure how you caught both of my duplicate words today. Good job. MattressSmith (talk) 15:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks MattressSmith - it helps to have a very high boredom threshold !! - Arjayay (talk) 15:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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Page helping
Can you please look and add watchlist to some kannada film articles, because some Ip users added unsourced and financial box office changes without sources, any changes please reverted among this film
Rohiths90 (talk) 09:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Rohiths90, I'm afraid that all Indian films suffer from IP editors adding/changing unsourced/untrue figures, not just Kannada films. As can be seen from these articles' history pages, I have already corrected such edits on most of the pages you have listed above, and several are already on my watchlist. However, I have about 6,500 pages on my watchlist and have trouble keeping up with them all, so false figures will, occasionally, slip through. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 10:56, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Note
Hi, this is an IP-sock of this sockfarm, known for writing incomprehensible edit summaries. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Fylindfotberserk - not one of my "usual" socks - Arjayay (talk) 12:04, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Welcome. This person most likely belongs Jat caste and can be found in Jat related articles, as well as those of Haryana, Punjab and nearby areas where this community is found. The edit summaries make them DUCKY. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
how is it unsourced it literally says in it footnote
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_diaspora&diff=prev&oldid=1290931100 2600:480A:4A51:9300:B307:3EAF:FF7E:9B4 (talk) 21:11, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Midd-West School District removal of the Esports team
Hello! I am apart of Midd-West School District's Esports team. I can confirm that it is official, and I have proof of it. SonXo (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi SonXo Wikipedia isn't interested in who you are, where you are from, what you know, or what is on social media.
Wikipedia is only interested in what has been published in reliable, independent sources, issued by a publisher with a reputation for fact-checking, which need to be cited in order to support information added to our pages. If you have such a reliable, independent source, then you can cite it with the information. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners for the "how-to" - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:40, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Tom Robinson
No idea how to reply, but the reason I did not offer citation is because there isn't one. I have acquired a tape archive from the BBC and I am currently digitising the tapes. One tape is the original BBC reel of the Tom Robinson session. There is not mention of this on the internet that I can find to link to! 81.111.48.17 (talk) 13:20, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello IP from Durham, sources do not have to be on the internet (dead-tree sources are acceptable), but they do have to be in reliable, independent sources published by a body with a reputation for fact-checking. Furthermore, they must be properly cited, so the information can be verified as true in the future.
If there are no such sources, I'm afraid that you cannot add the statement to the article. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:50, 25 May 2025 (UTC)- Then Wikipedia will be the poorer if it is missing important facts. I can't invent a source, I am the source! I'll never trust Wikipedia again if I know it's missing important facts. 81.111.48.17 (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps you shouldn't trust Wikipedia even more, if it was willing to publish unsourced claims? - Arjayay (talk) 18:55, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Then Wikipedia will be the poorer if it is missing important facts. I can't invent a source, I am the source! I'll never trust Wikipedia again if I know it's missing important facts. 81.111.48.17 (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
May 2025
Hi @Arjayay. How are you doing? I hope you are fine. I saw that you removed the source of information at Johnny Sins and gave a valid reason that the source is highly unreliable. So, the information is likely to be removed by someone else since it is unsourced. So, should I add the YouTube short from his official channel? Though I know that would be considered to be promotional. Amogh Tripathi (talk) 14:52, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Amogh Tripathi - You've answered your own question, Self published YouTube videos are not reliable, independent sources published by a body with a reputation for fact-checking. - Best wishes - 19:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Vandalism warning
Arjayay, please don't use vandalism warning templates for non-vandalism issues like this. Vandalism, as you surely know, has a very specific meaning on Wikipedia. As the policy states: Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism.
Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:23, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
Poland in Junior Eurovision Song Contest
Hello. You will update information in article „Poland in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest" ? Information is needed regarding changes to the Polish preselections in 2025 and 2026. Poland1020 (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Note
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HaikalMalaysia
(Same pattern list of Malay sock, i notified more users with tools to check or ban) 93.143.125.91 (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HaikalMalaysia&diff=prev&oldid=1294114192 93.143.125.91 (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Port St Mary Lifeboat Station
Hi @Arjayay
Thanks for the correction. Its all too easy to miss those errors when you're doing multiple edits.
However, what I wanted to say, just if you find any more, please then read what you have corrected.
It should have read "of the" instead of "the the", so just deleting the extra "the" still didn't make sense.
Many thanks
Martin Ojsyork (talk) 11:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
Retro film box office edits
Hi Arjayay. Regarding your reverts on my edits to some retro film articles, I wanted to clarify. While I'll concede one of the sources I used was unreliable, the reason for the edits is that many sources claiming the higher box office numbers are themselves misleading. They don't specify that the figure includes non-theatrical revenue, and present the total as the theatrical box office gross. My goal was to correct these inflated numbers to reflect the actual theatrical take. 123gogeta (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- 123gogeta News 18 is deemed to be a reliable source - whereas there is no judgement on Dina Thanthi. You will need very strong, specific, evidence to show that News 18 is actually incorrect, without which we will continue to show their figure, this is why we show a range. Please respect that. - Arjayay (talk) 21:03, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Arjayay ,
- Thank you for the detailed response and for clarifying the view on the sources. I appreciate the discussion.
- My reasoning for the edits stems not from questioning News18's general reliability, but from a close reading of what both the primary source (the producer) and the secondary source (News18) are actually saying in this specific instance.
- 1. The Primary Source: The production company, 2D Entertainment, is the origin of the ₹235 crore figure. They announced this via a poster on their official X/Twitter account. Crucially, that poster includes an asterisk and a disclaimer at the bottom stating the figure is for "*theatrical and non-theatrical revenue*". You can see the tweet and the poster directly here: [1](https://x.com/2D_ENTPVTLTD/status/1924081098889495022). This is a direct admission from the source of the number that it is not a pure box-office gross.
- 2. The Secondary Source (News18): The News18 article you're referring to is reporting on this specific announcement from the producers. As you can see from the article text, it explicitly attributes the figure to the makers:
- > "Directed by Karthik Subbaraj and starring Suriya alongside Pooja Hegde, Retro has raked in a massive ₹235 crore globally, according to its makers. Production house 2D Entertainment shared the milestone on X (formerly Twitter), thanking fans for their “immense love and support."
- The article doesn't present an independent box office analysis; it is covering the news of the producer's social media post. Therefore, while News18 is a reliable source, in this case, it is reliably reporting on a primary source's claim, not providing a verified theatrical gross figure itself. This is why other reliable trade sources like Pinkvilla, which track theatrical numbers, report the lower, theatrical-only figure of ~₹97 crore.
- My goal is to ensure the article accurately reflects this. The best way to adhere to WP:NPOV and WP:V is to present the verified theatrical gross from trade sources and then use an explanatory note (`Cite error: There are
<ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).`) to detail the producer's higher figure, clarifying that it includes non-theatrical revenue as admitted by the producers themselves. This resolves the discrepancy for the reader rather than presenting a misleadingly large range. - I believe this approach correctly contextualizes all the sources, including News18, without dismissing any of them. I hope this clarifies my intent.
- Best,
- 123gogeta (talk) 123gogeta (talk) 21:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- To add a crucial clarification on the sources: The main English-language News18 article, "Suriya Donates Rs 10 Crore As Retro Mints Rs 235 Crore", directly attributes the ₹235 crore figure to the producer's poster, which we already know includes non-theatrical revenue.
- The News18 Tamil source (mentioning ~₹200 crore) "சூர்யா நடிக்கும் புதிய படம் தொடக்கம்… பிரமாண்டமாக நடைபெற்ற பூஜை.. நடிகர்கள் யார் தெரியுமா?", menioned in the Retro Wiki page, is less relevant, as it is about a different film and only makes a passing reference to Retro's collection. Therefore, News18's most direct report actually supports the argument that the higher figure is not a verified theatrical gross, but a citation of the producer's announcement. This strengthens the case for using the lower, verified number from trade sources and explaining the discrepancy. 123gogeta (talk) 21:20, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
Hi 123gogeta, I have copied this thread to Talk:Retro (film) so other editors can contribute, and added reasons why the Pinkvilla figures are also suspect. Please continue the discussion there - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 10:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
Your edits
Hi! It happens many times that I get 'edit conflict' when I try to save my edits for typos on long articles I have created shortly before, and you edited in the same time. ı kindly ask you to take time for your edits, because all my work becomes useless, it is time wasting for me, and it annoys me much. You can wait a couple of days for your edit. Thanks. CeeGee 18:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry CeeGee, there is no way I can tell whether you are editing, or not. I normally perform 200-300 edits per day, so, when I see a problem, I cannot just file it and return to it sometime later, as that would be huge waste of time, and leave the problem visible to the public for the intervening period. Edit conflicts are not difficult to resolve, one method is to publish your changes as a separate tab, which will show if there is a conflict, whilst retaining your changed text, so, if there is a problem you can resolve it before publishing.
I assume you are referring to my correction at Havza Atatürk's House Museum? Rather than creating a new article in main-space, perhaps you should use your sandbox, or a user-page, and check your article before publishing it? I don't correct typos in sandboxes of user pages - although I occasionally do in draft articles. - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 19:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)- Im just curious what you do to make money? 300 edits per day and that for free? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.233.65.60 (talk) 09:16, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hello IP - 300 edits/day is negligible, some editors make 3000 edits/day. - Arjayay (talk) 10:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Im just curious what you do to make money? 300 edits per day and that for free? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.233.65.60 (talk) 09:16, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
Oh wow! Same issue as the individual below [above, as I have moved the post to the bottom of the section], what a shock. Just lost 10 hours of work based on 500 hours of research thanks your nit picky edits. I left a note saying I was building the rest of the article out. Please kindly stay away from the Hanlan's article until I'm done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendsofhanlans (talk • contribs) 04:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Friendsofhanlans Please put new posts at the bottom of threads, and read my reply above.
My correction was over 11 hours after the previous edit to the page, and there were also 5 other edits in between your last edit and mine. Provided you know how to, you don't loose "10 hours of work" from an edit conflict. Please see Help:Edit conflict which states "When this happens, the MediaWiki software provides a screen that allows the user to resolve the conflict manually." and explains different options for how this can then be done. It also gives other methods of preventing edit conflicts, in the "Prevention" section. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 10:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
Please look this article. Unreliable sources per WP:NEWSORGINDIA are continuously re-adding. Epicion (talk) 12:00, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Mass moves
Hi. I saw you reverted a couple of moves made by this editor. I've given them a CT warning for IPA but do the rest look ok? RegentsPark (comment) 15:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi RegentsPark, thanks for the post. They appear to be mass movements to Tamil spellings, contrary to WP:COMMONNAME, without altering the spellings within the articles to match and leaving articles at odds with related articles - e.g. Thiruvallur taluk is part of Tiruvallur district, which was not changed. I think a mass rollback is in order. - Arjayay (talk) 15:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm. I'll drop a note on their page as an added warning. Could you do the rollback? I'm not sure what script to use. RegentsPark (comment) 15:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi RegentsPark - I thought admins had a mass-rollback tool? or doesn't that work on page moves? - Arjayay (talk) 16:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- You're right. There is a script that only admins can use. Will need to look for it though since I haven't installed it or used it and I don't really have the time to figure this out. Perhaps @Drmies: can help? RegentsPark (comment) 18:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Ok - done manually by myself and User:CX Zoom - Arjayay (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks--I wouldn't know how to work that anyway. :) Drmies (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Ok - done manually by myself and User:CX Zoom - Arjayay (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- You're right. There is a script that only admins can use. Will need to look for it though since I haven't installed it or used it and I don't really have the time to figure this out. Perhaps @Drmies: can help? RegentsPark (comment) 18:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi RegentsPark - I thought admins had a mass-rollback tool? or doesn't that work on page moves? - Arjayay (talk) 16:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm. I'll drop a note on their page as an added warning. Could you do the rollback? I'm not sure what script to use. RegentsPark (comment) 15:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Following on from my Talk Page (as per your request)
- Hi,
- I'd not seen the part where you'd asked me to bring this up on your talk page rather than mine, so I'm doing that following on from here: User talk:Temporary 1010#Your recent edits May I ask the reason me editing my old message was reverted? I was improving the quality of previous content posted by myself; messages that I felt were not fact based, off-topic, wording that I consider impolite, hence I had edited them. Happy to discuss.
- Thanks for your message.
Temporary 1010 (talk) 16:11, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Temporary 1010 - In what way was overwriting other peoples posts "improving the quality of previous content posted by myself"?
In what way was taking old posts from the archives, dating back to 2014, "improving the quality of previous content posted by myself"?
We do not re-factor (alter) posts by other people, whether you feel they were "off-topic" or contained "wording that [you] consider impolite", or not. - Arjayay (talk) 16:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)- Sorry what? Had I edited other peoples' posts?
- As far as I recall, I only edited content I posted, if I had edited that of anyone else's then it was most certainly an accident on my part.
- If so, I apologize; my intention was not to edit anything other than what I had posted. Temporary 1010 (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
Sock
This is likely the sock of the Italian IP LTA we deal frequently. If I'm not wrong, they made an account sometime back which got blocked as well. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:24, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi - Fylindfotberserk, agreed. The first few edits were to "new" target articles, the later ones were to "known" target articles. The only account I know to have been blocked was RiccardoBallarotti in 2023 - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Should we start an SPI so that all these accounts get clubbed together? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:51, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- You could try, but I suspect that being over 2 years old RiccardoBallarotti will be "stale" - as we know, they usually use IPs - Arjayay (talk) 14:57, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Should we start an SPI so that all these accounts get clubbed together? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:51, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, could you keep an eye on this IP likely a proxy, making changes like these. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:05, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Fylindfotberserk - it is not showing as a proxy on my checker, but as I've said, somewhere before, these are not always accurate. Recently, there have been several IPs from Melbourne, Australia editing Indian articles, mostly false figures - I've not seen the WP:INDICSCRIPT problem from them before. Best wishes. - Arjayay (talk) 14:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I also came across another [2], likely the same person. Their edits are Bengal-centric and obvious ethnicity and indicscript based POV. I've seen a similar by newbie users in a set of articles few months back. Have to check it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:19, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Fylindfotberserk - it is not showing as a proxy on my checker, but as I've said, somewhere before, these are not always accurate. Recently, there have been several IPs from Melbourne, Australia editing Indian articles, mostly false figures - I've not seen the WP:INDICSCRIPT problem from them before. Best wishes. - Arjayay (talk) 14:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
"Duplicate word removed"
Duplicate word removed: I reckon you need apply the tool "triplicate word removed" first. :-) --Altenmann >talk 21:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
Small Faces article
Thanks for the correction, I found it in the MOS here: MOS:TENSE Petticonifer (talk) 21:30, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Petticonifer - I was referring to MOS:PLURALS - British English treats groups, teams etc as plural - see The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin etc. and the opening line of Small Faces. - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 21:37, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Why?
Hello sir.
Can i know why you move my article (Tanzir Ahmmed) to the draft?
Waiting your answer, Thank you. NuzhatNajiaNoumi (talk) 13:18, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- NuzhatNajiaNoumi the article Draft:Tanzir Ahmmed has since been deleted as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" - you do not appear to understand Wikipedia's inclusion criteria - we are not Facebook or Linkedin - we only have articles about WP:notable people, who have significant coverage in WP:Independant sources, with no connection to the article subject. - Arjayay (talk) 16:53, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Respected Sir, Can I Know the reason why an article Krishnagarer Utsav ( Festivals of Krishnagar ) has been removed! Its not a spam, I have told about a boy I know personally worked hard to document the festival of krishnagar. Princekng1425 (talk) 17:19, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Princekng1425 your article was not deleted, it was moved to Draft:Krishnagarer Utsav ( Festivals of Krishnagar ) The draft is totally unsourced, the external links are social media, not reliable sources, and you cannot base an article on "a boy I know personally" only on Independent, Reliable, Sources issued by a publisher with a reputation for fact checking, which must be cited in the article. Unless you have such published Reliable sources, there is no point in editing the draft any further. - Arjayay (talk) 21:29, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Okk now I get it! Thank you for your Help ! Princekng1425 (talk) 04:51, 14 July 2025 (UTC)