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South Richmond, Indiana

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This needs much better documentation than our friend the 1876 atlas, especially since there is no obvious feature on the topos to which it can be attached. Possibly it was a rail point; possibly it just means "the south part of Richmond", which is what I'm getting from GHits. But I'm not finding any clear sign of a separate town. Mangoe (talk) 16:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hiser, Indiana

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I'm getting a number of these Indiana places where there's little or nothing there, and where I'm just not coming up with anything. Based on the location I'm guessing that it was a 4th class post office, although there are rails nearby as well. At any rate, what I do get besides all the usual junk is last name hits. I just can't see keeping this. Mangoe (talk) 11:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete You can prod these too, this editor lazily mass-produced false articles. Reywas92^Talk 14:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Just a rural intersection. USGS topo maps show the intersection (with no buildings) with Hiser Station Road; the latter name suggests this may have been a flag stop on the nearby (now gone) railroad. Regardless, without more information this is a failure of WP:GEOLAND and WP:GNG. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Locust Grove, Wayne County, Indiana

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The hits on the two churches named "Locust Grove" (one Methodist, one "German Baptist") suggests that this is actually a mistake in the map label itself, or that this is a very diffuse locale. What is actually there now is a sprawling intersection which goes back as far as aerials show; the oldest shows a house at the interchange, but it disappears, and around 1980 what appears to have been a hotel was built a short ways north; it's gone now, leaving only the scar of its parking lots. Other than that I get nothing; two county histories mention the Baptist church, but it's off to the west at the county line, as is the Methodist church's cemetery. Neither history mentions this as a town. A rail line runs nearby but I have nothing indicating there was a stop here. Mangoe (talk) 11:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sai Yok Noi Waterfall National Park

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Fake, non-existent subject. There is no such thing as a "Sai Yok Noi Waterfall National Park", only a Sai Yok Noi Waterfall in Sai Yok National Park, both of which have existing articles. This page was created with the title Sai Yok Noi Waterfalls, but was later renamed to Sai Yok Noi Waterfall National Park without any explanation or modification of its contents, which seem to be about the waterfall. The content appears to be AI-generated and is not suitable for merging to any of the existing articles. Paul_012 (talk) 06:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Clearly AI generated (see ?utm-source=chatgpt.com in URLs of refs) content fork. Speedy delete if possible. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
delete per above, and frankly I think the article on the waterfall ought to be merged into that of the park. Mangoe (talk) 11:15, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete Does not exist. I merged the waterfall stub to the real park's article. Reywas92^Talk 13:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per nom. This article is clearly AI generated Halley ^{luv Filipino ❤} (Talk) 23:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milltown Volcano

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Hoax? No idea how this got accepted at AfC, there seem to be no sources at all about Milltown Volcano[1], and at least some of the sources included (I couldn't access all of them) don't even mention either Milltown Volcano or Hoover Hill (e.g. source 6[2] is about Mole Hill, and source 7[3] isn't even about New Jersey... Fram (talk) 08:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Almost certainly a hoax. The referenced USGS topo maps do not contain any mention of a Hoover Hill or a Milltown Volcano, and Refs. 6 and 7 are about totally unrelated subjects. Furthermore, the peak of the hill (supposedly 1893 feet) is higher than the highest point in New Jersey. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 20:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per WP:HOAX. 🦅White-tailed eagle^{Talk to the eagle}Stalking eagle 14:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- would be cool, but I can't find any information searching DuckDuckGo either. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

East Haven, Indiana

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As far as I can determine this is the same as the Richmond State Hospital, which I also find referred to as "East Haven Hospital". It is a historic and still active asylum started in the 1870s; the main building is a classic of period architecture. It also appears as a rail spot because there was a branch which presumably supplied the heating facilities with coal. The one thing I see no sign of is anyone thinking of this as a town in its own right: though it appears to sit outside the city limits, it was always associated with Richmond, and I find no reference to a predecessor town. Mangoe (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Beesons, Indiana

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Looking at the maps, this is a rail junction, not a town, and that's how it comes up in every meaningful hit I got. Mangoe (talk) 16:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - just a rail junction. Fails WP:NGEO and WP:NPLACE. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:06, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charlottesville, Union County, Indiana

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I found basically nothing of substance about this "no there there" spot. Mangoe (talk) 03:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete At least Charlottesville appears on topo maps starting in 1960: [4], but never as more than a crossroad with four buildings (only one of which is there today). Fails WP:GEOLAND for lack of information. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hopeville, Indiana

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Pne of a couple of places entered into GNIS from an 1876 atlas, the only other reference I can find is a passing inclusion in a list of towns. There's nothing in the topos or aerials, and the location is an unlikely point in the middle of a forest, but it's a safe bet that the coordinates estimated from the altas are inaccurate. Searching is heavily masked by every other Hopeville in the country. Mangoe (talk) 03:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete "Hopeville is an unincorporated community..." Bollocks. Nothing on USGS topo maps: [5], nothing on Gmaps: [6]; this place seems to exist only in Wikipedia and the GNIS. It's possible the coordinates are an error, but regardless, the "is" in the text make this stub article a lie. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Archaeological area of Corte Sgarzerie

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Utterly redundant, repeating what is in Corte Sgarzerie#Archaeological area. Neither page is particularly long. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as ATD. Mccapra (talk) 08:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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You don't need an AFD to do a WP:BOLD merge/redirect of an obviously redundant page. Reywas92^Talk 19:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Misali Island

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Completely AI-generated article. All the hallmarks (eg lists of three bullet points), flags as 99% on https://undetectable.ai/. Creator disputes this. — Moriwen (talk) 17:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Regardless of how it was written, it does lean very heavily on one source at the moment - 16 of the 26 references are to the same PBS programme. Adam Sampson (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The 16 reference to the PBS program refer to different timestamps in the video. It's using the reference multiple times in a very detailed way – which I thought was the correct protocol. TLJ3 (talk) 11:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve proposed a revision that consolidates the PBS references from 16 separate footnotes to one general footnote with no time stamps, referenced only 4 times: Talk:Misali Island#Proposal to consolidate PBS references, eliminate time stamps. TLJ3 (talk) 13:33, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep/TNT The island, which is protected as the Misali Island Marine Conservation Area, is clearly notable with the Atlantic article, Time article, and PBS special, but the clearly AI-written content needs to be deleted. The creator is welcome to rewrite it with appropriate encyclopedic tone though. Reywas92^Talk 20:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TNT - The AI generated stuff needs to go. Agree with Reywas. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete on procedural grounds - this one is in such bad AI shape that we just need to remove it entirely and start from scratch. SportingFlyer T·C 23:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The claim/accusation that this was AI generated is a subjective claim without evidence. The burden of proof lies with the editors claiming that the page was AI generated. I know for certain that it was not – because I did the majority of the writing. I've put a lot of time into this, and have gathered a lot of sources.

Check the edit history. It began in my sandbox. Since publication there have been more than 15 separate editing sessions over 7 weeks, building content iteratively, adding sources like BBC coverage, creating new sections. I properly disclosed paid editing throughout. Iterative sustained page development over weeks is not an indicator of AI generation. Other editors have contributed improvements and additions to the article.

I created the Talk page and have proposed how it can be improved. I was invited to create this page by conservation researchers who wish to become active on Wikipedia.

Can the page be improved? Absolutely. And I am gathering academic sources to add more information to the page. I welcome feedback on the talk page that can help me (and others) to improve the quality of the page.

I recently held a training for new Wikipedia editors so that they can contribute responsibly to pages related to marine biodiversity. I focused on the quality standards of Wikipedia and emphasized, NPOV, NOR, V, and COI. And I specifically said not to use AI. TLJ3 (talk) 13:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC) TLJ3 (talk) 12:51, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Initial sandbox version of the page from March 21. TLJ3 (talk) 15:20, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If I ask ChatGPT to write an article in the style of Wikipedia on Misali Island, it looks remarkably similar to your initial sandbox page: Misali Island is a small, ecologically significant island located off the west coast of Pemba Island, part of the Zanzibar Archipelago in Tanzania, East Africa. The island is renowned for its rich marine biodiversity, pristine coral reefs, and cultural heritage, making it an important site for both conservation and ecotourism. and contains all of the same headings almost verbatim, except it splits out Ecology and Conservation. SportingFlyer T·C 04:17, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. easily fulfils Wikipedia:NATFEAT. Djflem (talk) 21:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Humboldt Industrial Area, Minneapolis

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Non-notable neighborhood. Cites a database entry, a blog post, and two passing mentions. Neighborhoods don't generally have inherent notability, and this one doesn't even have residents. Could reasonably redirect to the broader community of Camden, Minneapolis. — Moriwen (talk) 18:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Camden, Minneapolis. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 21:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is an officially designated neighborhood in Minneapolis by the City of Minneapolis. It is part of a complete series of articles on all official neighborhoods. Minnemeeples (talk) 02:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep There's little about this neighbourhood, and it does need to pass GNG. However, there's not nothing about this neighbourhood, including significant coverage in at least one book and a couple mentions in scholarly articles. The question is really do we redirect or do we keep a full set of the official neighbourhoods in this city? I think both are justifiable - GNG is questionable but not at zero, a redirect would destroy the fact every other neighbourhood has an article (though it's possible some others may need to be redirected as well). I'm erring on the side of keeping. SportingFlyer T·C 23:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yucca Inn, California

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Fails WP:NPLACE and WP:NGEO. Doing a WP:BEFORE search, topos only show this as a point, while aerials show no development besides dirt roads until around 1995. Not a place officially in the US census. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Not actually an "unincorporated community" or place in the WP:GEOLAND sense. Per this article in the Hi-Desert Star in Yucca Valley, the Yucca Inn Motor Hotel was a 26-room hotel that opened in 1961. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Completely unrelated Yucca Inns, the motor hotel is by Twentynine Palms, while Yucca Inn (the community) is by Piñon Hills. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So there is a "community"? Or just old USGS coordinates with no real context? Cielquiparle (talk) 17:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I meant "community" as you said it. It's not officially a place in the US Census. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 19:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
delete There's been serious label drift, but the aerials and older topos make it quite clear it is a literal inn, specifically this place, whose web page helpfully states: "Two years after Hwy 138 was completed, Mabel & William Beekley built The Yucca Inn on what was part of an original 640 acre homestead. [....] The Yucca Inn has been in business almost continually since 1934." This is quite consistent with the older topos, albeit they take their time catching up with on-the-ground reality. Mangoe (talk) 19:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. Is it the same as this Yucca Inn where there was a shooting in 1936? Cielquiparle (talk) 01:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unlikely, that one was by Upland and owned by a different owner.

Yucca Inn must have been a common name for early motels. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 04:04, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Baynesville, Virginia

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Prodded by Oona Wikiwalker and deprodded with the statement: "Obviously it meets WP:NGEO; don't prod pages out of ignorance".

Contrary to the deprodder, this article very obviously does not meet WP:GEOLAND as it stands. The only source cited is GNIS, which does not satisfy the requirement for legal recognition and is unreliable. As even the article concedes, this place is "unincorporated", which is to say it is not legally recognised, and as such does not pass GEOLAND#1 and needs to pass WP:GNG.

There is no evidence in my WP:BEFORE that is does. Searches on Google and Newspapers.com show only passing mentions. FOARP (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment from this book we have "...was a guest this month of Westmoreland State Park, Baynesville, Virginia." Another book says "...Baynesville... are but a few of the place names that today are serviced by Kinsale, Montross, or Colonial Beach post offices; in many cases, only a small marker denotes where these smaller communities once existed." It's not in data.census.gov but is mentioned in old post office books and there's a 1910 postcard. Seems it could have been a smaller settlement that got swallowed by Montross. Not voting, but hopefully this helps our normal GEOLAND voters. --Schützenpanzer (Talk) 14:57, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of these is evidence of legal recognition as required by GEOLAND. Similarly, neither is SIGCv required by GNG.

could support a redirect to Montross if it is part of that. FOARP (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep, SK#3. Obviously a real, legally recognised place, as can be seen from Schützenpanzer's search results. Nomination rationale doesn't understand what is meant by "legal recognition", among other things. It merely means an unincorporated area, a place that doesn't have its own municipal government. GNIS is reliable for saying "something called X is in place Y"; its problem is that it sometimes lists a community that's actually something else, like a hill or a big farmstead. But it doesn't just invent things, and a quick consultation of this location's USGS quads demonstrates that GNIS is correct here, since it's marked (by a legal entity, the USGS) as a community. Nyttend (talk) 20:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
GNIS is explicitly excluded from WP:GEOLAND. “Unincorporated” literally means without legal recognition via incorporation. FOARP (talk) 21:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I was able to expand the article using sources from Virginia's Chronicle, NewspaperArchive, the Library of Congress, and the US Postal Service. The history of this village dates to the 1600s, and by the early 1800s, some of the more prominent local residents and structures have appeared in historic sources. This village is less than a mile from George Washington's birthplace, historic mentions date into the 1700s, and there are plenty of significant sources regarding the "Baynesville boys", early postmasters, and early residents. Firsfron of Ronchester 06:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Wikipedia:HEY. Reworked article satisfies N:GEO Djflem (talk) 09:44, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Five Points, Union County, Indiana

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One of a number of five-way intersections in the area/state, I couldn't find anything that specifically related to this one, though I found several references to one which were definitely not this one. There's also a Five Point Creek which attracts hits. As it is, there is one house at the intersection which judging from the style probably dates from the early 1900s, but that's it. No evidence I can see that this was a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 01:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete Only need to look at who the creator is – no need to spend any more time on this than he did on mass-produced falsehoods. Reywas92^Talk 05:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - haven't we already submitted at least 30 deletion requests of these non-notable settlements in Indiana? ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By my count I've submitted 212 so far. Mangoe (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mill Hill, Blackburn with Darwen

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Run-of-the-mill suburb with no indication of notability. Database source only. Could redirect to Blackburn. — Moriwen (talk) 19:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: needs work but it meets the criteria of WP:GEOLAND (it has been a matter of debate in the past whether UK electoral wards fit the "officially recognised place" criterion, but in this case couple it with plenty of historic and contemporary coverage and I think it clearly meets the other criteria anyway). I think that under WP:ENGPLACE it should probably be moved to Mill Hill, Lancashire? Joe D (t) 16:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbali Coastal Forest

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I am not sure this is notable, and even if so, this is primarily AI slop that needs WP:TNTing. GoldRomean (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete I agree, there is very little mention in the literature and overall the article is not encyclopedic. --hroest 16:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I thought there would be something there in a BEFORE search but this appears to be a resort and estate of some kind that doesn't seem to have the sources to support it. SportingFlyer T·C 18:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rynek, Lesser Poland Voivodeship

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Mass-created article by Kotbot. Name means simply "Market" (or "market square"). In reality, as the Polish article states, the map shows, and Teryt confirms, this is not a settlement but just a part (i.e., część, and not necessarily a populated part) of the village of Brzezówka. Happy to redirect as an ATD. FOARP (talk) 09:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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delete I don't see a redirecting here given that there are probably multiple potential targets for a "market". Mangoe (talk) 13:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Right. If you say “I am going to ‘Rynek’” in most Polish cities and towns it will be understood as meaning that you are going to the town square. For this reason redirecting isn’t warranted. FOARP (talk) 21:29, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. It still has an article on pl wiki. I suggest redirecting to the village that the pl article claims this is a part of, Brzezówka, Lesser Poland Voivodeship. If you look at pl:Brzezówka (województwo małopolskie) you'll see it has seven such parts, whatever they are (for a village). Maybe @Malarz.pl can comment or ping some other Polish Wikipedians who know more about Polish geography topics, I keep forgetting who is active in this topic area.

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IDK Piotrus, the target isn't mentioned there and just how many "Ryneks" are there in the Lesser Poland Voivodeship? Hundreds surely? Most prominently the main square (Rynek Główny) in Krakow? We don't have to redirect just because there is a PL wiki article. FOARP (talk) 08:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is an entry in TERYT (with SIMC 0830575). There is also an article in the Polish wikipedia. Kiwipete (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TERYT, similar to GNIS for the US, contains entries for many things that are not populated settlements (including farms, railway sidings, warehouses etc.). TERYT lists this as a "part" (część) of Brzezówka, not as a settlement, which is also exactly what the PL Wiki article says it is. Rynek is what you call the typical market-square of any Polish town or city. It is therefore not a populated settlement according to GEOLAND: it is apparently just the centre/market of Brzezówka. FOARP (talk) 09:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, evidently a generic term that could apply to any community in LPV and so a redirect is inapt. JoelleJay (talk) 16:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wimp, California

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Fails WP:NPLACE and WP:NGEO. Doing a WP:BEFORE search only brought up searches fearing the word "Wimp" as in "Coward". I'm quite skeptical if this is even a place or is just flat out WP:MADEUP. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 19:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Honestly looks like a made up term. Cannot locate anything in reliable sources to verify. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Appears to be just a rail point, not appearing on any map until 1966: [7], and disappearing after 2018. Fails WP:NGEO and WP:GNG. Nothing found. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kalvøya, Bærum

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Can’t find any reliable secondary sources covering this city. Not entirely sure where to redirect it since the Bærum article doesn’t mention it ApexParagon (talk) 17:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Sandvika (a part of Bærum), where it is mentioned.Ingratis (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wreck diving sites of Cape Town

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Article subject appears to be not notable. Refer to policy WP:NOTDATABASE: simply listing a group of related items is generally discouraged. Although WP contains many list-type articles, there is no consensus for the notability "List of diving sites of XXX" articles. In any case, WP:GNG policy requires multiple independent sources that discuss the list AS A GROUP. Noleander (talk) 21:44, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:NOTDATABASE. Azuredivay (talk) 06:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of these are already listed at Table Mountain National Park Marine Protected Area#Named dive sites. While a list of shipwrecks in the region is certainly doable, I agree that a simple list of dive sites is too database-y. Reywas92^Talk 00:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename to Shipwrecks of Cape Town, which implies a slight expansion of scope. Article was nominated prematurely while under construction (and is still under construction). Scope of existing content is appropriate for proposed rename, and has adequate references either already cited or potentially citeable to establish general notability. If anyone wonders why I did not just rename it to the better title, I did, but have been reverted because this AfD is still open. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 06:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename to "List of shipwrecks in the Western Cape" - I completely agree with renaming this. The article itself is pretty bad and needs a lot of cleanup, but it's a valid NLIST article if you look at the sourcing, especially the book which groups these topics together. NOTDATABASE also does not apply here, especially because this is not a simple list, but does provide context. SportingFlyer T·C 01:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are dozens more shipwrecks in the Western Cape, perhaps hundreds. I do not have anywhere near the same quality of sources for them at this stage so would recommend 'Shipwrecks of Cape Town' or 'Shipwrecks of Table Bay, Robben Island, the Cape Peninsula, and False Bay', as the preferred title. A conservative estimate for the article size when I have finished with current sources would be in the order of 140K and around 80 sections, which is big enough. Also there are differences in the reasons for shipwrecks occurring on this particular part of the coast compared to the rest of the Western Cape. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 16:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yenne, Indiana

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A crossroads with one farmstead which judging by the aerials has hardly changed in seventy years. So given that it's named after a postmaster, almost certainly just a 4th class post office. Searching produced lots of people named "Yenne" but nothing of substance. Mangoe (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Location did exist, as the article explains. Article is supported by valid sources. If someone ever searches for this location, it's reasonable to locate this article. There's no harm in keeping it, and no specific violation of Wikipedia policy or guidelines to delete it. Truthanado (talk) 01:06, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I see I will have to spell it out. As a rule, per WP:GEOLAND, only settlements get a pass on having to satisfy WP:GNG, which this place certainly does not: it's barely attested to, and by two sources which have problems. Of you will take a look at WP:GNIS, you can see the kind of problems with it that have caused us to disregard its "populated place" categorization as implying a settlement. In this case it's clear that the place was a 4th class post office, back before RFD, when people had to go and pick up their mail rather than having it delivered. We've found these in all sorts of places, and having it someone's house is quite common. That leaves us with Baker's place names origin book. After all this time in Indiana, it has become clear that when he says a place is a village, he's not very reliable about that.

As far as the "harm" is concerned, first off, the WP euphemism of "community" to describe these places is largely unsourceable. It is quite clear after years of dealing with hundreds of these that "populated place" cannot be taken to imply a town or a "community" because there are too many flat-out mistakes, never minding the whole post office thing. We've consistently held that these 4th class post offices aren't notable. "Community" doesn't mean anything concrete anyway. In a lot of cases we can find turn-of-the-century county histories which are generally pretty clear about places where there was an actual town or at least an attempt to have one. The problem in the large is that these articles were mass-created from GNIS without appreciation of its problems, and in some states (though not Indiana so much) the other sources such as place name books were misrepresented. "Community" seems to have been seized upon in an attempt to have people read these places as towns which satisfy GEOLAND without actually claiming that they were towns. So the issue is really about telling the truth about these places, because if truth were told, that many of these were just places to pick up mail, or places with passing sidings and perhaps a station stop on the railroad, or summer camps and resorts, they would be deleted because they don't satisfy GNG. Mangoe (talk) 12:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per GNG, not more than a post office. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Mangoe's detailed argument on the available sourcing failing GEOLAND and GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Just a onetime post office, fails WP:GEOLAND without high-quality sources (a listing of post offices is no such thing), plus all the reasons nom listed. As for "no harm in keeping it", our articles are constantly being scraped for geolocations and to train AI, and keeping nonsense stubs like this is polluting these data with noise. I just typed "yenne indiana auto detailing" into Google and at the top of the list were two Yelp listings for auto detailing "near" Yenne, and only after consulting a map could you determine they were all 50+ miles away. We don't need to be enabling monetized garbage like this by keeping useless articles on nonexistent subjects. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tregaron Conservancy

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There's a little weak sourcing, e.g. [8][9], but no great need for a separate article when this is covered in Tregaron Estate#History. A redirect there is sufficient. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per above. WP:PAGEDECIDE applies here. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 22:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge new information into Tregaron Estate. I do not think a separate article is warranted, given with the overlap of this topic and its parent topic of the estate. Also, much of this article is a history of the estate it seems. I think a #conservancy section in the Estate article is warranted, along with merging the new information added here into the #history section of that same article. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 14:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tregaron Estate is described as a "country house and estate," but the two the two were split with very practical consequences. It used to be one unified residence, now the land contains a school and a legally distinct park. Indeed, this bifurcation is noted in the introductory paragraph to the article on the estate ("Today the estate is occupied by a campus of the Washington International School and the Tregaron Conservancy.")

Tregaron Estate was originally part of Twin Oaks, but it would be inappropriate to merge because after the property was partitioned, the new parcel gained a new owner who put it to a new use. The same is true here where Tregaron Estate was partitioned into the buildings of the Washington International School and the parkland of the Conservancy.

This bifurcation has been similarly used where an estate with historical significance (Arlington House, The Robert E. Lee Memorial) is treated separately than undeveloped space severed from the estate for a new purpose (Arlington National Cemetery), other examples include (Stoneleigh Park partitioned from Stoneleigh Abbey), (Knowsley Safari Park partitioned from Knowsley Hall), (Moor Park Golf Club distinct from Moor Park (house)), (Tredegar House Country Park distinct from Tredegar House).

Conversely, one article is appropriate where the buildings and grounds were never split and remain under joint use for one purpose (an apt example is Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens the estate Post bought after moving out of Tregaron when she and Davies split).

As a practical matter, it's important to distinguish the conservancy, which is a park open to the public, from the estate as a whole which includes substantial areas of private property owned by the Washington International School to which visitors are expressly not welcome.

The articles should remain distinct because Tregaron's story since 1980 has been one of bifurcation for distinct uses by different owners. 98.204.119.0 (talk) 17:16, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Redirect per nom. Mccapra (talk) 03:41, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm developing material on the post Davies era of Tregaron, covering the contentious inheritance and sale, development efforts, community response, and eventual protection. Please delay deletion. 98.204.119.0 (talk) 03:56, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hope the recent edits make the case, though I need to clean them up since I wanted to get something up here quickly. 98.204.119.0 (talk) 07:55, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep While once a portion of the estate, the parcel has been a separate entity (the other a part of the school which has it's own article), since 1980. The history section conveys how the conservancy came to be. Sourcing is satisfactory.Djflem (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The conservancy is distinct from the estate or school. The history section is now more robust than the estate article, but specifically relates to the conservancy, not the school or estate. The sourcing is now substantially better than the estate article, which has merely one source, a National Register of Historic Places document that predates the conservancy. Furthermore, the article is indisputably notable and distinct from the estate article because it is about an extant 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. There is absolutely no basis to merge that into an article about the estate. Randomnumbername (talk) 22:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: there's a fairly substantive article here now. I'm not convinced that merging would be inappropriate if someone were to really develop both articles, but am fine with leaving the articles as they are for the time being, as they do cover notably different stories. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 08:38, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of communes of Luxembourg by population

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Dude, just merge the images and redirect them. You don't have to start a discussion for something obvious like this unless someone objects. No need to delete the pages altogether either. Withdraw this and then follow WP:BOLD and WP:MERGEINIT. Reywas92^Talk 19:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Heck, I'd merge the main list into Communes of Luxembourg too. But please do update the stats. Reywas92^Talk 19:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, should have been a merge request, not an AfD. SportingFlyer T·C 19:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless I'm missing something, the rush to admonishment of this nominator for bringing this to AfD seems unfair. This does not pass WP:NLIST and there is no sense in merging the article into List of communes of Luxembourg because it is literally duplicitous and already covered. Sure, this probably could have been done without an AfD nom, but if editors have any doubt at all about performing a WP:BOLD delete/redirect, we absolutely should create a culture as a community which encourages them to instead come to AfD for consensus. I don't think the nominator did anything wrong. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 20:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, my understanding is that the only way for non-admins to delete a page is to nominate it for deletion... Also, the thought of turning the pages into redirects had not crossed my mind. I supose I'll just do that. Procrastineur49 (talk) 22:17, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect these lists to List of communes of Luxembourg. These lists do meet WP:NLIST but they're redundant. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 23:08, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, the nominator took action and changed this article to a Redirect despite they're being involved and this discussion still being open. I reverted that action and ask that no further action be taken until this AFD is closed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or redirect, ok either way. Really don’t see what’s terrible in having these, but if comparison can be made elsewhere, so be it. Hyperbolick (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, the table on the main article can already be sorted by pop / pop density / etc. so this is basically a pure duplicate. A redirect would be fine as well, but slightly favor delete bc if the nominated article was a draft received at AfC I think a reasonable reviewer could decline on the grounds of 'already exists'. Zzz plant (talk) 22:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tannery Garden, Basirhat

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WP:GEOLAND only presumes notability for the legally recognized city of Basirhat, not the informally defined Tannery Garden neighborhood. Citing the Bharat Sevashram Sangha website's listing of its address cannot support the claim that the area is famous for that group's presence. Listing the post office pin code does not establish notability because all sufficiently small areas have a single postal code. The Basirhat Police website failed to load, but it seems to only establish the neighborhood's existence, rather than providing significant coverage of the neighborhood as a distinct entity. The claimed 2025 population and literacy rate are made without citation, which is particularly confusing because the 2025 census of India remains indefinitely postponed, while the 2011 census of India only measured Basirhat as a whole, not at the neighborhood level. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 05:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mount Pisgah, Indiana

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There's nothing there, and sources consistently characterize this as a post office. Mangoe (talk) 02:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep However it is not clear to me if this is legally recognized according to WP:GEOLAND which is what my argument is based on. Czarking0 (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please go read WP:GNIS. We have not taken listing in these official gazetteers as legal recognition for a long time, and in any case, GNIS in particular has proven to be fairly error-prone. Mangoe (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: weak keep - might have historical significance. e.g. see this [[10]] Asteramellus (talk) 00:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The story is at least untrue to the extent that this Mt. Pisgah is nowhere near the military base; it's over 150 miles away in a different corner of the state. Mangoe (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No evidence that this ever was a community in the sense required by GEOLAND. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There was more than a post office at Mt. Pisgah. According to Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, April 9, 1921 Page 6 there was a general mercantile store there that sold coffee for the desperate. It is mentioned as a "place" in Hoosier Folklore Bulletin, Vol. 2, No. 1 (Jun., 1943), pp. 14-16. ([11]). So there's a hint that there's more than a post office, but evidence is shy that it was a community. Maddening. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. The most common ATD in similar cases would be a redirect to the local township. In this case Milford Township, LaGrange County, Indiana. But IMO,sources remain too thin for even that. Eluchil404 (talk) 18:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with this one, as is usually the case, is that the township article either doesn't mention the place or more typically claims it is an "unincorporated community", i.e., a settlement, when the whole rationale for the deletion discussion is that it is no such thing. If we were going to apply GNG to these, then yes, I would say roll them up into the parent township; but as it stands, these redirects are just an invitation to a subsequent RfD to get rid of them. Mangoe (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - only a post office. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 16:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. We don't have clear evidence that this meets GEOLAND and a lot of evidence that it is merely a post office. JoelleJay (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Birchmount Park-Warden Woods, Toronto

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I don't think this neighbourhood exists; none of the sources cited mention it and I can't find anything else online. There is a Birchmount Park and a Warden Woods, but they are not a thing together. Nominating for AfD since there's a contested PROD, but fairly certain this is a neologism. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:44, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - non-existant neighborhood. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 01:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - these appear to be adjacent areas covered in a single article. Perhaps a split is in order. ~Kvng (talk) 13:52, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One appears to be a shopping mall and the other a park. I'm not sure if either is notable and the sources here appear to be all primary. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
split into two articles, both are notable geographical areas that have coverage but there is no precedence to have them together in one article. --hroest 20:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Splitting this article would mean creating two stubs with only primary sources. Why not just create both articles now if the sources exist? voorts (talk/contributions) 21:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Scarborough, Ontario. Seems more relevant there than a stand alone article. Not seeing why this residential area is notable. Seems like general information and sourcing is not significant. Ramos1990 (talk) 23:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Vanni forest

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Article is about forests in the Vanni region without specific mention of a named forest. Sources are either links to sat images or references that does not deal with a location called the "Vanni forest" and the page Natural forests in Sri Lanka already exists. -UtoD 11:32, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Move to Forests in Vanni. perhaps Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I really don't know what to do with this one. "Vanni forest" brings up a number of hits in books, though the one that looked the best is a reverse COPYVIO of this article! I'm nervous about deleting because it's very possible I'm getting this wrong, but there's no clear sources which show this to be a viable topic in English. SportingFlyer T·C 01:33, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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