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Websites

CGMagazine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NWEB. I'm not seeing other significant coverage apart from the news story about the site moving towns: [1]. Mika1h (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ToyVoyagers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I found no significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 02:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abandonia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacks WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources. The PC World Philippines article is a solid example of SIGCOV, but I could otherwise only find trivial mentions. And yes, I did use Wayback Machine to check all of the digital and scanned magazine articles that were hosted on Abandonia and mentioned in the previous AfD - they are almost entirely trivial in nature. The previous AfD was otherwise WP:VOTE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 16:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is virtually no independent coverage of Abandonia. Merging with Abandonware and trimming would also be totally acceptable to me, as Masem suggested. MrTaxes (talk) 20:50, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Surf Office (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced. Does not pass GNG. ✶Quxyz 18:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tuko.co.ke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Procedural nomination: First nomination was significantly distorted by a group of socks, and also got non-admin closed by a now blocked sock. MarioGom (talk) 13:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There's nothing in the article that really explains its notability.

Jasmere.com (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:WEBCRIT. Only 1 article links to this. The coverage is routine and some of the listed sources are dead. Despite existing for 16 years, the company only gets 1 google news hit. LibStar (talk) 01:12, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Property24 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Possibly fails WP:NORG. Amigao (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Websites, and South Africa. WCQuidditch 04:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Appreciate all the review work that happens around here. Putting my vote in to rather retain the article and improve it by adding more sources and info. I think by nature of this being a major arm of one of South Africa's largest companies by revenue, and the largest property site in Southern Africa, it passes the muster of WP:NORG. Happy to contribute to the article's growth myself, as I'm sure other Wikipedians will over time. Thanks all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husskeyy (talkcontribs)
    • Largest something does not give notability if you read the guidelines. At best, you could say redirect to OLX as the notable parent. IgelRM (talk) 15:23, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fair enough. I do think it passes the bar of "trivial coverage", and that more independent, verifiable sources would be added to the article over time, considering the breadth of this company's reach in Southern Africa. Husskeyy (talk)
  • Delete It doesn't seem to be WP:PROMO which makes this odd. There is certainly not sufficient WP:SIGCOV here with the bulk of content sourced to the company's own website or unambiguously non-RS sources. My quick WP:BEFORE fails to find anything more redemptive. In any case, doesn't pass WP:NCORP / WP:GNG. Chetsford (talk) 20:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For what it's worth, the IOL and MyBroadband articles should be reliable sources for SIGCOV purposes. But I'm mostly here to suggest that if there is a consensus on deletion, the content should be merged into Naspers#Property24 with a redirect. Jlalbion (talk) 07:18, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadspike [Talk] 23:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Spinny (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Repost of content previously deleted and salted at Spinny. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thank you for bringing this article to AfD. I believe the subject may now meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, as there is significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. It's possible that when earlier versions or submissions were reviewed, such coverage was not yet available, but recent searches (including on Google) show more in-depth and reliable sources. I support the AfD process in this case so that the wider community can evaluate whether the subject meets the notability criteria. I appreciate that this nomination was made in good faith. Afstromen (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Afstromen could you specify which sources you mean? Mrfoogles (talk) 15:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Forbes India, Economic Times, Live Mint, Moneycontrol, Entrepreneur Afstromen (talk) 15:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources you provided here are not reliable; they all appear to be promotional material from the same date and on the same topics.1) Spinny raises $283 million [3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]2)Spinny has fired about 300 employees[12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20]3)Spinny opens 1,000 acre park [21][22][23][24][25] SachinSwami (talk) 16:51, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
and what about Forbes India and Entrepreneur source? Afstromen (talk) 17:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also [26] Afstromen (talk) 17:13, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
[27], [28] Afstromen (talk) 17:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No change between same date and same topic.4)Spinny raises $65 million[29][30][31] SachinSwami (talk) 17:29, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SachinSwami I am agree with your point but can you share your review on Forbes India, Entrepreneur and other sources i mentioned in this discussion. Also [32][33]
[34] Afstromen (talk) 17:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All the sources are from the same date and same topic.5)Spinny Acquires Scouto[35][36][37][38][39][40] SachinSwami (talk) 17:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are focusing mainly on the sources that were published on the same date, but you are ignoring other reliable and high-quality sources. Afstromen (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: All the sources are from the same date and on the same topic, appearing entirely promotional.*:SachinSwami (talk) 17:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The user seems very interested in this page; I suspect a conflict of interest (COI). SachinSwami (talk) 17:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well I am interested in discussing the sources. and I have nothing to do with COI. Afstromen (talk) 18:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Is it worth discussing promotional sources? 38 sources were shown, all appearing like advertisements. I can provide many more sources from the same date and same topic. SachinSwami (talk) 18:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to clarify a few things, and after this I’ll leave it here.
    [41] – This is a detailed piece that gives significant coverage to the company. It wasn’t published on the same date as the others, so I’m not sure why it's being grouped that way. It clearly supports notability under GNG.
    [42] – This is from India Today, which is both reliable and independent.
    [43] – An exclusive from Forbes India should count as independent and non-trivial coverage.
    [44] – This is another solid source from Deccan Chronicle that adds to the overall picture. Afstromen (talk) 19:11, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: In addition to the vote casting and conflict of interest matter, I saw substantial publicity regarding the corporation. Fulfill the conditions outlined in WP:NCORP. I found [45], [46], [47] and [48] AndySailz (talk) 08:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The analysis of the provided sources is as follow: 1) WP:FORBES states that "Forbes and Forbes.com include articles written by their staff with editorial oversight and are generally reliable... Most content on Forbes.com is written by contributors with minimal editorial oversight and is generally unreliable." 2 The Financial Express article focuses heavily on Spin's success and positive aspects. Due to its promotional tone, it cannot be considered fully neutral. 3 ) India Today is considered reliable, but this article also emphasizes Spinny's positive aspects (such as customer-centric approach and use of technology) without shedding much light on the company’s challenges or shortcomings. It lacks a thorough evaluation of Spin's true situation, making the article appear one-sided. The source does not meet the criteria of WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY, and WP:RS. SachinSwami (talk) 12:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You've made your opinion clear, and I believe it's now fair to allow other editors the opportunity to contribute their views as well. I would also like to note that the Forbes article cited is bylined by a named journalist, which adds to its reliability under Wikipedia's sourcing standards. Additionally, the Deccan Chronicle article provides coverage about the company. Let's continue this discussion constructively and collaboratively, following Wikipedia's guidelines. Afstromen (talk) 12:57, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The user is welcome to evaluate sources presented by other votes. This is a discussion, not a vote count. Please do not attempt to stifle their comments. The fact is that the majority of the sources are press-driven and come from the company, either paid for through non-disclosed ads or churnalism (see WP:NEWSORGINDIA). --CNMall41 (talk) 16:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do agree that many sources are kind of press-driven. But why you aren't not pointing good article. Both Forbes India articles are reliable, staff-written pieces with bylined journalists. They offer in-depth, independent coverage of Spinny’s background and business model, meeting the criteria for notability under the General Notability Guideline (GNG). Also the articles from The Financial Express and Deccan Chronicle that are with bylined journalists name and offer coverage about the company. These publications meet Wikipedia’s reliability standards for news sources when written by named journalists. Also i found two Hindi sources [49], [50]. I am discussing this only because you are ignoring good sources. Afstromen (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are WP:BLUDGEONing this discussion. Please stop. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:45, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies. I won’t say anything further.Afstromen (talk) 18:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The two Hindi sources do not make the subject notable since the first one focuses significantly on its founder and the second fails SIGCOV (?). ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 17:18, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source Publisher & Reliability Coverage Type Depth of Company Details Editorial Independence Strength for Wikipedia Notability Notes
Forbes India (Rearview Mirror, 2020) Forbes India — highly reputable business magazine In-depth company profile, founder story, growth narrative Very high — detailed history, challenges, strategy Yes ✔️ Very strong Excellent for early company history and founder insights; authored, independent feature
Forbes India (Acquisition, 2023) Forbes India — highly reputable business magazine Business milestone coverage, acquisition, financial scale High — recent company growth and market impact Yes ✔️ Very strong Exclusive coverage of Spinny's acquisition of Truebil, demonstrating significant industry impact and growth
Economic Times Hindi (Niraj Singh story) Economic Times Hindi — reputable regional publication Founder interview and company journey High — detailed founder insights and growth Yes ✔️ Strong Valuable regional-language coverage with deep founder and company details
ET Prime Economic Times Prime — premium business analysis platform Market context, business model, competition Moderate — business analysis, less company history Yes ✔️ Moderate-Strong Useful for market positioning and competitive context
VCCircle VCCircle — respected startup and VC news site Funding updates, financial milestones, company history Moderate — combines financial info with company background Yes ✔️ Moderate Good for financial verification plus some company history details
Moneycontrol Moneycontrol — reputed financial news portal Funding rounds, valuation, company background Moderate Yes ✔️ Moderate Includes exclusive reports on funding talks and valuation milestones
Livemint (Funding & Growth Articles) Livemint — established business news outlet Funding, investor details, company history, growth strategy Moderate to High Yes ✔️ Moderate-Strong Provides both financial info and detailed company history and growth context; includes exclusive funding round coverage
Entrepreneur India Entrepreneur India — established entrepreneurship magazine Authored in-depth feature on business model and success Moderate to High Yes ✔️ Moderate-Strong Reliable authored profile useful for demonstrating notability

103.46.200.95 (talk) 18:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely rubbish assessment. Fobres India and Entrepreneur India are NOT Forbes and Entrepreneur. Quack quack! --CNMall41 (talk) 22:40, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a nonsense source assessment. These are WP:ORGTRIV or WP:PRIMARYSOURCE interviews; furthermore, Forbes India and Entrepreneur India are not reliable sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Grok's opinion on the issue
  • Keep Look, the company’s clearly been getting decent media coverage not just from Forbes and Entrepreneur, but from a bunch of other sources too. Everyone keeps getting hung up on Forbes and Entrepreneur India like they’re the only game in town.

For Forbes, the article doesn’t seem like paid content — it looks legit, editorial, and actually covers the company in a meaningful way. As for Entrepreneur India, yeah, there’s been some back-and-forth about its reliability, but no consensus doesn’t mean “not reliable.” It just means editors haven’t fully agreed. So let’s not throw it out without a solid reason. Also, it’s not like getting featured in these places is a walk in the park, it’s still a sign the company’s doing something notable. Plus, we’ve got other coverage too. Someone even put together a comparison table of sources, which helps show this isn't just fluff or PR spam.Collegeboy12 (talk) 08:56, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Some more experienced, organic input would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 06:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftifying would not work as no amount of cleanup will make this notable. Movign to draft will simply cause the SPAs and COI editors to move it right back, regardless of the AfC restriction. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – It has received significant coverage from many well-known independent sources, including Forbes India (https://www.forbesindia.com/article/take-one-big-story-of-the-day/rearview-mirror-lost-alignment-and-a-leap-of-faith-how-spinny-emerged-as-a-dark-horse/85135/1), Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/markets/funds/indian-used-car-platform-spinny-valued-18-bln-new-funding-round-2021-12-07/), The Economic Times (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/spinny-turns-unicorn-after-raising-285-million-from-adq-tiger-global-and-others/articleshow/87890974.cms?from=mdr), Business Today (https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/corporate/story/tiger-global-in-talks-to-invest-100-million-in-used-car-retailer-spinny-298696-2021-06-15), Moneycontrol (https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/startup/exclusive-tiger-in-talks-to-back-spinny-valuation-zooms-to-800-million-7034641.html), Financial Express (https://www.financialexpress.com/business/express-mobility-online-transaction-makes-up-for-48-of-used-car-sales-for-spinny-2923245/), Livemint (https://www.livemint.com/Companies/QTrlHrh5KPspHcssiwizRL/Spinny-in-talks-to-raise-up-to-15-million.html), Entrepreneur India (https://www.entrepreneur.com/en-in/news-and-trends/spinning-success-in-the-used-car-business/414905), and others. These sources provide detailed information about Spinny, its funding rounds, business model, growth trajectory, and its position as a unicorn startup valued at $1.8 billion. This coverage goes well beyond basic press releases or trivial mentions. Similar companies like CARS24 and CarDekho have had comparable coverage and were kept in their AfDs. Spinny should be treated consistently with this precedent.Collegeboy12 (talk) 08:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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