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Wikipedia:TAGS

Wikipedia:TAGS → Wikipedia:File copyright tags (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This shortcut seems confusing considering Wikipedia:Tags exists. Should this be retargeted there? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Both should target the same page. Either a dab page, or Wikipedia:Tags (which already has a way loo long list of hatnote entries). Gonnym (talk) 12:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To make it clear, support. Gonnym (talk) 07:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. We should always be very conservative about retargetting shortcuts, and this has pointed to the same location since 2006 and is linked from hundreds (at least) of good article review templates. Retargetting would be extremely disruptive. Thryduulf (talk) 13:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget both WP:TAGS and WP:TAG to Wikipedia:Tags, agreeing with the nominator. This is a natural and broader target over a niche copyright page. Links can be updated with bot run if necessary. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:06, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both a bot run and leaving the links pointing to the wrong location would be equally and extremely disruptive. New links would also continue to accrue to the wrong targets given 19 years of use. These massively outweigh making one of many ambiguous shortcuts arguably more logical. Thryduulf (talk) 15:27, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You realize we's talking about the shortcut "TAGS" targeting a place called "Tags"? Retargeting it would be a resolution of ambiguity, so using that as part of your argument is questionable. A bot run would fix the links so there wouldn't be any pointing to the wrong location. The new location would be less of a surprise for anyone using the shortcut and a hatnote would catch anyone looking for file copyrights. It's helpful for those generally looking for tags and any "disruption" is minimized. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:36, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If we were discussing a recently created redirect I would agree with you, but nearly 20 years of entrenched usage (and the massive disruption a bot run would cause by editing the talk page of potentially every (former) Good Article (candidate)) outweighs the benefits by many orders of magnitude. The status quo is not ideal but it is the only way to avoid the disruption. I also disagree that copyright tags are any less of a plausible target than edit tags. The argument about hatnotes applies equally to those looking for the proposed target arriving at the present target. Thryduulf (talk) 16:34, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given "assuming they haven't just ignored everything I've said", I have to conclude that you are no longer arguing in good faith so I am disengaging. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:50, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am explicitly assuming good faith when it was not clear to me the faith in which you were contributing, but thank you for assuming the opposite of me. Thryduulf (talk) 18:40, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're talking like we don't move pages all the time and replace the content inside them with other pages. There is no difference between redirects. They aren't some sacred pages. Gonnym (talk) 07:16, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Given the extensive use in Good Article assessments, I've left a note at WT:GA about this nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 00:23, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cremastra _talk 20:56, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Wikipedia:Tags for consistency. Any other fixes can occur proactively or reactively by others as the basis of redirects is to target the clearest page, and what page is clearer than a character (but not caps) match? Steel1943 (talk) 20:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mike J.

Mike J. → Running with Scissors (company) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Inappropriately presumptuous redirect - there are dozens of other Mike J.s listed at Mike (given name) among other things. Also note that Mike J is salted. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:45, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note Pinging YellowSquash who requested the redirect over at AFC/R. Mike J was salted in 2008. LR.127 (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Mike (given name). LR.127 (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Mike (given name), where readers will find whichever notable Mike J they were looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 15:41, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Consarn below that if this is not deleted, Mike J should be recreated as a redirect to the same target as Mike J.. Thryduulf (talk) 20:01, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Mike (given name) per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:58, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
retarget to mike (given name). while an argument could be made for rws's mike j being the primary topic, i'm not in the mood to make it, since there's barely any info on him in the target anyway. regardless, i'll be adding my undead kosher cock milk senpai and bidet connoisseur to the dab. this makes negative sense without context, huh... also, recreate mike j and target it there as well consarn _{(prison phone) (crime record)} 14:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
uh... i could swear i added it like 8 minutes after that vote. whoops. anyway, i probably shouldn't actually do it since the only info about him in the entire article at the moment is his picture consarn _{(prison phone) (crime record)} 11:49, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

bro MIGHT have a crush on rws Mike J User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 11:49, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
is it bad that literally all those words are just postal canon? consarn _{(prison phone) (crime record)} 21:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
delete. Sure, we could redirect to Mike (given name) but how useful is this redirect actually? There are no other "Mike [initial]" redirects. If there is someone notable who is actually commonly referred to as "Mike J." we could redirect there but in their absence this seems completely pointless. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:04, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion per Caeciliusinhorto is a better option than the WP:ATD suggestion. Jay 💬 12:32, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Caeciliusinhorto and PANDORA. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete since the plausibility of this redirect targeting any page, including Mike (given name), is essentially preposterous. Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rejected Nictoons (Nickelodeon)

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List of Nickelodeon Characters

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 24#List of Nickelodeon Characters

List of Disney Channel Series in episode list

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Ruby-gnome2

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List of Shen Gong Wu revealed in Season One

List of Shen Gong Wu revealed in Season One → Xiaolin Showdown#Shen Gong Wu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
List of Shen Gong Wu revealed in Season Two → Xiaolin Showdown#Shen Gong Wu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
List of Shen Gong Wu revealed in Season Three → Xiaolin Showdown#Shen Gong Wu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Long, implausible redirects that are highly unlikely search terms to an article that does not even have a list of Shen Gong Wus, plus there is already a redirect Shen Gong Wu to the target article, thus all three should be deleted 2603:7000:2600:298D:F9E8:D6DF:BC72:9CC9 (talk) 13:39, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Length is not relevant and on the face of it these seem like perfectly plausible search terms. What matters is whether we have relevant content at the target (if so keep) or elsewhere (if so retarget there), with deletion only being the way forward if we have no relevant content elsewhere. I've looked at the target page and there are lists of characters there and of season plots, but I don't understand the topic enough to know whether those lists are relevant to the search terms though. Thryduulf (talk) 15:16, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: They were converted to redirects with comment redirecting for merge, but it is unclear if a merge was done, or only the mergefrom tags were removed. Jay 💬 10:33, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, mwwv ^converse∫_edits 17:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless the content is actually merged, which it doesn't appear to have been and imo should not be, since it looks like minimally sourced fancruft. As is, there are no lists of Shen Gong Wu ("mystical objects with powers that balance the forces of good and evil") or even any specific ones mentioned at the target. Rusalkii (talk) 04:12, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Boli (steroid)

Boli (steroid) → Metenolone enanthate#Use by Major League Baseball players (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This is mentioned at List of doping cases in sport by substance#Metenolone esters but not at the target. Given that the article that was located under this title prior to being merged/BLARed started with is the term Alex Rodriguez used to describe..., it seems that redirecting to a description of that particular case would be appropriate. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 05:44, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Or should it target Alex Rodriguez § Use of performance-enhancing drugs? Jay 💬 16:43, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That does seem like a reasonable option. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 20:06, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget to Alex Rodriguez#Use of performance-enhancing drugs as that is where it is discussed with more context. Rusalkii (talk) 04:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disney Animation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 23#Disney Animation

List of Planet Sheen characters

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 24#List of Planet Sheen characters

Lawthorne Mill, Virginia

Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Getout

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Azucena Duran

Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy delete