Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ethnic groups

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Ethnic groups

Karategin Uzbeks

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Fails WP:GNG, The article doesn't cites any sources and is possibly a WP:HOAX as there is no information about it anywhere to confirm if it even exists. Koshuri ^(グ) 11:34, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan. Koshuri ^(グ) 11:34, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks brother, yes historically Karategin was inhabited by Tajiks and Kyrgyzes even in sources that were mentioned in article it is written byt no mention of Uzbeks Amir TJK (talk) 16:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I'm slightly confused why you say the article doesn't cite any sources. It does lack inline, but for that throwing Template:No footnotes on it for a bit might be the better course of action. Unless someone can access the sources it does list and has evidence that they are unreliable, I see no reason to assume they are. Still, I can understand some suspicion about it, and would love to hear from @Фанис Шарбеков: about where they got their sources. - Ike Lek (talk) 06:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're making a WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument, If you think there are sources which provides WP:NOTABILITY to the subject then find and cite them here.

I'm slightly confused why you say the article doesn't cite any sources. – I said it cause there is literally no citation present in the article, I don't see any reason to be confused here. I have already checked Karategin Uzbeks#Sources, The section only mentions names of some sources, However there no mention of any ethnic group called Karategin Uzbeks. Koshuri ^(グ) 13:49, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying there are for sure sources, I'm saying there are listed sources in the article, even if they aren't properly cited. I would want to hear about them before I decided they weren't legit. Ike Lek (talk) 18:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pakhral

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No indication of notability whatsoever and reads more like a dictionary entry. Plus, googling the title just leads me to a village in Pakistan of the same name, with nothing on this topic. Yelps ᘛ⁠⁐̤⁠ᕐ⁠ᐷ critique me 08:41, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There used to be much more content, but it was removed as completely unsourced. What's left is definitely insufficient to meet any inclusion standard for Wikipedia, but I offer no opinion as to whether this is insurmountable. (My delsorting here will be based on the prior content as much as the remaining stub.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 08:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Islam, Pakistan, Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, and Rajasthan. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 08:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assyrian Progressive Nationalist Party

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Restarting a deletion discussion for this article, will aim to detail in a reply Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Organizations, Politics, and Iraq. Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I originally nominated this article for deletion back in March of this year. Following a larger search for sources, I only found five worth noting:

Constitution of the party
Iraq Country Assessment by the UK, on page 66
Leftist Parties of Iraq (now dead website), mentions year of establishment, founder, and ideology
Europa World Year, mentions opposition to Kurdish region
Journal article by Vahram Petrosian, on page 25

Even within these sources, the subject is only given small mentions that are one or a few sentences in length. A commenter on the previous AfD mentioned that there would've been print media discussions of the party, though I couldn't find any such sources archived (even by searching the name of the party in Arabic, no results come up). Having not found more than these five sources with more or similar discussion, it's safe to assume that the articles fails Wikipedia:SIGCOV beyond trivial mentions and, although noting that reliable sources exist mentioning the party, that WP:ORGSIG applies as other similar parties exist that advocate for the same things. I argue for deletion based on these merits. Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:46, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This was the party of Saddam Hussein, who was executed in 2006. Nothing found that indicates this party still exists. — Maile (talk) 03:22, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Notability is not temporary. Just because it is no longer exists does not itself mean it isn't notable. Curbon7 (talk) 03:42, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"This was the party of Saddam Hussein"? What? Geschichte (talk) 15:45, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - this already passed a AfD very recently. Nothing has changed since, and my argument remains: "whilst contemporary internet coverage is very scarse, it is worth noting that it would have received media attention in print media in Iraq at the time (esp. as being propped up by the govt at the time). The stance on national question is also interesting, as contrast to other groups. Here is an English version of its program [1]." --Soman (talk) 11:20, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Allblessed (talk) 17:50, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question to @Soman - I stated above that I couldn't find any print media discussions of the party anywhere online, much less archived. What exactly is your rationale for keeping the article if these sources can't be found, and the existing sources do not indicate sufficient notability? Surayeproject3 (talk) 14:26, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment "Coverage in Iraqi media, being propped up by the government" would also be very far from WP:Reliable sources. Geschichte (talk) 08:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Saying the sources can't be found is very different from saying you couldn't find them. It is also possible they are not on the internet. A deeper dive into the additional sources on the more expansive Catalan Wikipedia article on the subject could be a good starting point. Ike Lek (talk) 21:58, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ike Lek I'm referring to Soman's mentioning of "print media in Iraq", which I couldn't find anywhere. I looked at the Catalan Wikipedia, some of the sources I linked in my first comment were cited there, and my point still stands. That of course doesn't preclude that the article can be expanded if extra sources are rediscovered, but it's been nearly 18 years with very little additions since then so I doubt they exist. The topic is simply not notable and any available discussion is incredibly light to justify the article as it is. Surayeproject3 (talk) 02:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 06:52, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ethnic groups

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Karategin Uzbeks

Pakhral

Assyrian Progressive Nationalist Party

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