Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruno Agnello (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep‎. Please wait longer than a few months between AFD nominations. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:51, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bruno Agnello

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Was nominated for deletion months ago, but I'm fairly sure it is entirely a hoax.
He claims to have played with Alianza Atletico Sullana from 2018-19 but isn't listed here: https://www.transfermarkt.us/alianza-atletico-sullana/kader/verein/17479/saison_id/2018/plus/1 on their list.
Every single reference was a dead link (I have my doubts as to whether they were ever working links) and someone else removed them, meaning the article now has no references.
The few external links that work (such as https://www.espn.com/soccer/player/matches/_/id/157366/bruno-de-camargo-agnello) show him as having competed in zero matches. He does appear to be in the current listed team (G3X) but they compete in a small and completely new tournament that doesn't have any media coverage.
The photo on the page uploaded by a 'Bagnello', who wrote in 2013 in an edit summary that "My name is Bruno Agnello, im the person that is discribed (sic) by this site".
While he is a real person and probably involved in sports, he doesn't come close to meeting notability standards and the article has been unreferenced since March, when it was last proposed for deletion, probably because there are no references to be found... Aesurias (talk) 02:41, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, Football, and Brazil. UnregisteredBiohazard ^{talk to me} 03:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If the nominator doesen't evaluate the sources provided in the last AFD, this nomination should be thrown out. I am neutral on the notability, but I find the claim of hoaxing poorly corroborated. [1] Transfermarkt is irrelevant. Geschichte (talk) 05:23, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't add the hoax tag, it was already placed there. I, personally, mean hoax in the sense that almost his entire career appears to be fabricated Aesurias (talk) 05:40, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Transfermarkt is not a reliable source. Giant Snowman 18:59, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. jolielover♥talk 05:32, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per WP:BASIC, The article is dire, really poor, however there seems to be some sources there. I would like to see the article is better shape with better sources. Doesn't look like fabricated information. I can't be totally sure and as we know transfermk is an unreliable website. Govvy (talk) 12:52, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 18:57, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - what has changed since last AFD? Giant Snowman 19:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Whats changed is that nobody has added any sources as agreed upon in the last AfD. Aesurias (talk) 03:34, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. The fact is, sources have been found that demonstrate they pass WP:GNG, and so this person doesn't suddenly become less notable. "The sources haven't been added" is not a valid reason to delete. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:22, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per sources from last AFD which demonstrated notability. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:22, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Since I was the nominator of the March AfD and the one who added the tag about hoax, I'll leave this here: Agnello comes from the same generation of Santos FC as Neymar Jr. and Paulo Henrique Ganso, but he didn't achieve any success or impact in his career, except for his first transfer to Arab football, as reported by a source at JTtheOG in last AfD. My point is that he played for teams in Asia and South America without much media coverage, and there are no sources that cover this aspect of the story, very much reminiscent of what happened to Rio de Janeiro footballer Carlos Kaiser in the 1980s. The coverage of Agnello that exists is fundamentally based on his off-field "hype" and doesn't attest to his performance at clubs (for this reason the article ended up being deleted from pt.wiki for example). Svartner (talk) 13:52, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I've removed the hoax tag, because at least some of the claims are real. Is it puffery? Sure. Is he notable? I've got no idea. Bearian (talk) 00:40, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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