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Re: Ogham and Ethiopian categories (0.5) removed

Hello Liz, Thank you! When I created the category for Ogham and Ethiopian, I thought that it would work for everyone else, and I didn’t know that it was only for me. I’ve changed my Thai box to have no number so that it isn’t 0.5. Also, how do I make my userboxes available to others? I didn’t share them because I didn’t know how to. Thank you! Leejordan9 ^✉ 23:16, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!

Hello Liz: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 01:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you, CAPTAIN RAJU! I wish you a healthy & prosperous 2021! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:24, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Hello! Happy New Year! --TomFZ67 (talk) 11:23, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, TomFZ67! Happy 2021! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Admin recommendations

Hey Liz, hope your holiday and 2021 is going well! I was wondering if you could possibly recommend any admin who is smart/proficient with music related articles such as album templates and such? Not too sure if you’re familiar with knowing any but I figured I’d reach out and ask! Pillowdelight (talk) 04:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Pillowdelight,

The admin I know who is most well-versed in music articles and music WikiProjects is Ritchie333. I hope this helps! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much Liz!

Pillowdelight (talk) 04:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

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Buldam, California

I undid your prod deletion of Buldam, California, because I was literally in the process of expanding it and unprodding it when my edits conflicted with your deletion. I hope you don't mind me doing it this way rather than going through a more complicated WP:REFUND request. Anyway, sorry for stepping on your toes in this way. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:16, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

No problem at all, David. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

CAT:SIEVERT and WP:SIEVERT

Why did you delete these redirects? I understand if you would delete them as unnecessary or something, but why did you delete them as implausible? I created them so that I don't have to type "Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1053#Proposed community ban of User:Sievert 81 when I wanted to link to the site ban proposal, and I created CAT:SIEVERT so that I could link to the category in the ban proposal, but why have you deleted them? JJP...MASTER!_{[talk to] JJP... master?} 14:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, JJPMaster,

Well, we have over 20,000 sockpuppeteers and we don't have redirect pages for them. I've never heard of creating special redirect pages for a sockpuppeteer, even the most prolific cases (which is not the case with Sievert 81), and it was unwarranted.

I can see you are very invested in this particular case but we try to have established practices across the board and this was an aberration. I want to encourage you to not engage in sock hunting...it can just turn you into a big target for the sockpuppeteer and gives the troll unnecessary attention. Please read Wikipedia:Deny recognition and try to put this sockpuppeteer case behind you. Hopefully, you will not have to link back to that ANI discussion ever again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Liz: I will try to do that. Besides, it seems like Sievert 81 has had a change of heart after being indefinitely blocked from Conservapedia, and is now a constructive contributor on RationalWiki, albeit subject to a ban from biology-related articles so as to prevent what happened on Wikipedia from happening on there. JJP...MASTER!_{[talk to] JJP... master?} 21:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you so much for the invite. It will be my pleasure to be part of your team. Thanks.

Felipe Fanzeres (talk) 20:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, welcome, Felipe. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft Article: List of Degrees at Oxford university

I cancelled that but wasn't able to find where it was so I couldn't delete it. Ranamode (talk) 09:00, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, Ranamode. Just know that should you wish to continue to work on Draft:List of degrees at Oxford University, you can ask for it to be restored at WP:REFUND. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:24, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

142.112.185.243

Could you please block user:142.112.185.243 ASAP? CLCStudent (talk) 22:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

90.161.188.214

Can user:90.161.188.214 also be blocked at your earliest convenience? CLCStudent (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Although I will be away from keyboard for a while. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Backup of a proposed article deleted by you: "Robert Mickle"

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Hi Liz,
Thank you for your work on Wikipedia. I had started an article titled "Robert Mickle" which was deleted because it was considered non-notable due to lack of sufficient citations. Now I want to work on the content and improve the article in my sandbox. How can I obtain it? Can you create a draft page under my user name and put my previous work in there? Thanks,
Mehmetcaputcu (talk) 10:19, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Mehmetcaputcu,

I apologize for the delay in responding to you. Robert_Mickle was deleted because of an expired PROD which is to be used on uncontroversial deletion. This means that, unlike other forms of deletion (like CSD and AFD), it can be restored upon request. So, it has been restored and you are free to work on it. Happy editing! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Dear @Liz,*

You have published the article and made me happy. :)) Thank you! I added a few more references to it right away, and plan to continue to develop it in near future. I also created a link to it from an existing Wikipedia article. From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Iowa_Regional_Association_of_Local_Governments...

Should we now remove the "orphan" notification box? Thanks again.

Best!

* Do I need to include the @ sign so you are notified of any message addressed to you? Thanks. Mehmetcaputcu (talk) 10:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liz,

Has my response reached you? Hope all are well. Thanks. Mehmetcaputcu (talk) 21:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

AOC RFC

Hi, I'm not sure if you noticed but the RFC at AOC was NAC-Closed without even waiting for a couple of days. There were several yes votes, and many others didn't even get a chance to vote one way or the other. The closer mentioned that "respectable" editors advised that it's not going to happen, yet nobody owns the article, especially when I found "respectable" sources that would tilt for inclusion. I think the RFC should be reopened and let it run its course, one way or the other. Thanks

Draft:Second impeachment of Donald Trump

As someone who contributed to this draft, I'm curious as to who this "one author" is who requested deletion. Ribbet32 (talk) 02:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Ribbet32,

Phillip Samuel created the article and made the majority of edits to this draft. After being told that this draft was a duplicate of a similar article, 2021 efforts to remove Donald Trump from office, he asked that it be deleted. I posted a note on his talk page saying that the draft could be restored if he wanted to incorporate any of the material of the draft into the article. Typically, the creator of a page can request its deletion if they made the major contributions to it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Phillip Samuel wrote the first draft which was like two sentences. A second editor (can't remember name) rewrote it completely, and I was the third contributor. Phillip Samuel was not the sole author, and was not responsible for a significant portion of it. Ribbet32 (talk) 02:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

You are correct, Ribbet32, it looks like Nirvanaoreilly made a major contribution as did you. I have restored the draft. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi everyone! Yes, I created the draft article with the intention of the community helping me in adding sections since I am an new and inexperienced editor. Ribbet32 you are right, I created the page but others did a majority of the work to make it substantial, but when I submitted it for article creation it got rejected multiple times since the admin and/or reviewer(s) believed it was just a duplicate article to the "2021 efforts to remove Donald Trump from office" article and ultimately didn't accept it. Since the article I created and the most of the community wrote was deemed unnecessary, it was my understanding that there was no point going forward and so I requested the article be deleted. I guess I should've read the rules more carefully when it comes to deleting pages you create :) . I'm surprised that it was deleted in a quick span of time, but if the community thinks, like I do, that it's an article worth restoring and moving into mainspace, then it should be. Are you still interested? Phillip Samuel (talk) 02:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Phillip Samuel, I wouldn't take the opinion of one or two AFC reviewers as representing "the community". And, as the draft changes and improves, the opinion of reviewers can change. Also, as I said to you, there can be sections of the draft that could be incorporated into 2021 efforts to remove Donald Trump from office if they are well-researched and well-composed. The draft has already been restored. As this draft is about an event clearly evolving in front of us on a daily basis, I assume that it will continue to need work and be expanded. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the response! I just saw that the draft got rejected since it was repeatedly considered a clone, so I figured to delete the draft and incorporate the info into the "2021 efforts" article which is under discussion of being renamed to the title of the draft already. But if you guys think this draft holds promise then yeah I'm all for it. Phillip Samuel (talk) 03:05, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Elemental Calcium

I see you deleted the following link: Elemental_calcium with the statement that nothing links to it. I don't have a problem with the deletion so that you're clear up front. But, as I was looking at the Bacillus_coagulans page it does exist as a link under "Other Common Ingredients". Please see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Dietary_supplement

How should we heal the broken link? Linking to something more fitting or changing the template there? Please let me know when you get a chance.

Geoff918 (talk) 04:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Geoff918,

Elemental calcium was an expired PROD and it was actually another editor who tagged it for deletion with that rationale. As an admin, I just deleted the page after the 7 day period. But PRODs are for uncontroversial deletions. If you would like to have the page restored to evaluate it, I can do that easily. Let me know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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Well, to be honest, I don't have an opinion. I do think that if we're going to kill off the template that we should remove it from the entire referencing system as it creates a bunch of broken links. Else, restore it. Again, I don't have an opinion other than it either needs to be removed from the template also or restored such that we don't have a broken link.

Thank you for your explanation.

Stop deletion of categories

Hi I've currently has 9 articles in drafts (about politburos). Please dont delete categories before the articles are finished :) --Ruling party (talk) 16:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello,Ruling party,

I just tagged empty categories (CSD C1). If they have contents over the next week, the tag will be removed and they will be retained. If they are still empty after 7 days, they will be deleted. If you find a need for them after they have been deleted, feel free to recreate them.

If you have questions, ask me or the friendly people at the Teahouse. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

MShachar12 - Revdel and TPA removal

Hi Liz, please see their last two comments on their talk page. Not nice to say to the least. S0091 (talk) 22:06, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Ooops, thought they were already blocked so adding request to block them as well. S0091 (talk) 22:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, S0091. This is the second time this week I've been called that. I wonder if it is the same person. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a tea, especially if it is someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy!

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Thank you, Benevolent human. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Steveengel at ANI

I've mentioned you at ANI in connection with Steveengel (talk · contribs). I agree that the subpage isn't an attack page, but the compilation of lists of editors is disturbing, and I've blanked their more extensive userpage pending discussion at ANI. Acroterion (talk) 17:45, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't know how I missed seeing this message earlier today, Acroterion. Thanks for letting me know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:42, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

2603:6000:A507:C600:ADDC:4FCE:D2B9:8EF0

Can user:2603:6000:A507:C600:ADDC:4FCE:D2B9:8EF0 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 19:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:56, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Recreating Category:Pakistani silent films

Hello am I allowed to recreate the category Category:Pakistani silent films that you deleted because of C1: Empty category but I added the article Daughters of Today that was originally falsely claimed to be a Indian film but it is actually a Pakistani film so i fixed it but found out you deleted the Pakistani Silent films as a empty category 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 21:39, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸,

Any category that is deleted only because it is empty can be recreated if there is a need for it. So, if there is an article that fits this category, please feel free to recreate the category or I can do that for you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:43, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Giuseppe Provenzano (Italian politician born, 1946)

Hi, I just fixed the redlinks in article space caused by your deletion of Giuseppe Provenzano (Italian politician born, 1946). I'm not sure what should be done about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giuseppe Provenzano (Italian politician born, 1946) which no longer links to, or is linked from, the article it is about. The simplest thing would be to re-create the redirect. DuncanHill (talk) 00:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, DuncanHill,

I've restored the redirect at your request but it is an implausible redirect. It might be tagged again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:45, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Well I'm sure any admin would check what links here to see if it is serving a useful purpose before deleting. DuncanHill (talk) 00:47, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

87.228.213.149

Can user:87.228.213.149 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 01:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like they have stopped editing. Let me know if they return. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Request

The page I marked for speedy deletion is about a living person. The only thing they are known for is a evidence-free conspiracy theory directed at them that spread a year ago on Chinese social media. That conspiracy theory has been mentioned by a few tabloids outside of China, which is not enough to make it notable. In other words, the page in question is simply wild speculation about a living person (commonly known as "libel"). It should really be oversighted, but at the very least, it should be speedily deleted without bringing further attention to the page. -Thucydides411 (talk) 07:25, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

The subject of the article is a missing person, and there is no telling if she is alive. How are the rumors about her falling ill malicious? The reliable sources provided meet WP:RS. ScrupulousScribe (talk) 08:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

She's not a "missing person". She's a private individual who was the target of conspiracy theories on Chinese social media. It's really outrageous that you created an entire article about an obscure, evidence-free social media conspiracy theory targeting a living person. This is exactly the reason why WP:BLP policy came into existence in the first place. -Thucydides411 (talk) 09:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Continuing discussion in Talk:Huang Yanling. ScrupulousScribe (talk) 10:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I just think a deletion discussion in an AfD is more appropriate for this article than a quick CSD deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

A discussion just brings more attention to defamatory material about a private living person that clearly does not belong on Wikipedia. I'm very disappointed in how this has been handled, all around. -Thucydides411 (talk) 16:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, Thucydides411, it looks like the article has been deleted after a quick AFD discussion so it looks like you were correct. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Request to restore deleted page: Shuchi Anand

Hello! I didn't realize that there was a prod on Shuchi Anand. She likely meets WP:ACADEMIC based on the citation counts of her work. This is most easily demonstrated in a Google scholar search: [1]. The following articles are cited over 100 times. [2][3][4][5][6][7] This is usually enough to pass criteria 1 of ACADEMIC which states their work has had a significant impact. Could you restore the page? I will see what I can do to better demonstrate this. Thanks! TJMSmith (talk) 12:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, TJMSmith,

You need to provide reasons for keeping an article at an Articles for Deletion discussion but not for a Proposed deletion which are simply restored upon request. So, the article has been restored. Good luck with improving it! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Liz, Thanks Liz! I've added some highly cited selected works. TJMSmith (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Restore to userspace request

Hi Liz! LTNS, hope all is well. Would you mind temporarily restoring to my userspace these pages: Category:Geography of Rojava, Category talk:Geography of Rojava, Category:Regions of Rojava, and Category talk:Regions of Rojava (I'm not sure that this last one exists)? There were some diffs from those pages at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Kurds and I'd like to review them and potentially include them as evidence in the pending Kurds and Kurdistan arbcom case. Thanks! Levivich ^harass/_hound 17:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Levivich,

I don't think restoring a Category to User space would work...it would still be a category. I could transfer any content to a user page if you'd like but typically categories do do not have much content on them except for their parent categories. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! It's actually not the content of the pages I'm interested in so much as the page histories, particular diffs (to show timestamps of when parent categories, or CSD tags, were added/removed, for example), and page logs. I think I'd like to link to some of that stuff for my evidence submission to arbcom but I can't see it. Can we temporarily restore the pages and blank them with some kind of notice (similar to what's sometimes done for deleted pages during DRV reviews)? Levivich ^harass/_hound 17:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, Levivich, since the only reason they were deleted was because they were empty categories, I've restored them and started the 7 day CSD C1 waiting period over again. There was no Category talk:Regions of Rojava page so there was nothing to restore. It's really no problem with empty categories as most readers aren't even aware of the category system and no one will stumble upon these categories.

If this is about the dispute about Kurdistan, I remember that there were other related categories that were tagged for CSD C1 deletion that might have been improperly emptied. I am probably responsible for 90% of empty category taggings and deletions so you might want to look over my CSD log at User:Liz/CSD log (for January) and User:Liz/CSD log/Archive/October-December 2020#December 2020 (for December) to see if there are any others that should be restored. Because there is no permanent record of a category's contents, it can be hard to know that a category has been improperly emptied unless you are familiar with the subject matter and what articles should be in the category but are not. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! You've hit the nail on the head: I suspect they were improperly emptied, but that's really hard to figure out. I appreciate the pointer to the CSD log, that should be helpful to see if there are others. I'll let you know what I find one way or the other. Thanks again! Levivich ^harass/_hound 04:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again. Whenever you have time, can you please (pardon me if I'm using the wrong language) restore the deleted revisions of Category:Afrin Region (I think it was recreated after deletion), and also Category talk:Afrin Region? (The other two Regions of Rojava are Category:Euphrates Region and Category:Jazira Region, but someone contested those two so they weren't deleted.) Levivich ^harass/_hound 07:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi Liz. I see that you deal a lot with deletions and I had a question about drafts. I'm interested in adding WikiProject tags to draft talk pages (DTPs) for WP:1 reasons. I'm looking at a pretty large number of additions so I'm curious how the (inevitable?) deletions will proceed. From what I gather, the creator of the draft is notified on the user talk page about the deletion. My question is this: Does the creator of the DTP (if it's a different person from the original draft creator) also get a notification that the DTP has been deleted? If I do go around tagging (and in many cases creating) DTPs will I be given an alarm for each deleted DTP that I created? Apologies in advance if this question sounds convoluted. -Thibbs (talk) 19:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Thibbs,

I think I understand your questions. First, I don't think there is any problem with putting a WikiProject banner on a draft talk page. It doesn't happen all of the time but it does happen. You would get a notice about a deletion tagging except that it is rare that we tag the talk pages for deletion. The draft page is tagged but draft talk pages typically aren't tagged (they fall under CSD G8). That extra step is just not typically done. As I understand it, putting the WikiProject banners on the draft talk pages would mean that the page would appear on a WikiProject's Article Alert if it was tagged for regular deletion (in this case, only MFD as drafts can't be PROD'd). However, since aging drafts are typically tagged for CSD G13 speedy deletion, they wouldn't appear on an article alert because they are usually deleted as soon as they hit the "six months with no edits" mark.

What I'm not sure of is whether this is good or bad news...did you want to be notified? Or are you planning on creating so many draft talk pages that notifications would overwhelm your talk page and you are glad not to be getting them? And, out of curiosity, what WikiProjects are you working with? I don't do all of the deletions but I could keep an eye out. It is also helpful to look over User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon which lists the drafts approaching their six month mark. Folks working in Articles for Creation area sometimes look over this list and save promising drafts before they are due to expire. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I don't want to be notified because I anticipate being overwhelmed by them, but it sounds like I probably won't be. I've been adding WP project tags for categories and templates for WP:VG recently but I've been leaving the drafts alone. Seeing as they do track VG drafts on WP:1 I figured I'd do some tagging because the current count (291 drafts) is far from the actual count. Either way I'll probably experiment with a smaller batch before going headlong into it. Thanks again for your explanation! -Thibbs (talk) 04:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:Sun Microsystems computers

Hello! Sorry, can You rename this category as "Sun computers" instead of deleting? After renaming I could fill the category with the same logic as existing commons category. Thanks! ThisIsNotABetter (talk)

Hello, ThisIsNotABetter,

This is not how categories are renamed, they are not moved, ordinarily you should go make a proposal for a speedy rename at Categories for Discussion....HOWEVER, since this is an empty category that is tagged for deletion, I did as you requested because it doesn't affect any other pages and the category has no pages assigned to it. I have left the CSD tag on it because it is still an empty category. If it is still empty in 7 days, it will be deleted. As soon as it isn't empty, the tag will be removed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for moving, it's a nice result for current time. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 14:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Colentina, Bucharest

Colentina, Bucharest is being attacked. CLCStudent (talk) 16:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

DISMEYCARTOON207

user:DISMEYCARTOON207 is abusing her talkpage. CLCStudent (talk) 00:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

thanks for inviting me to the tea house. hope i can help you

Felipe Fanzeres (talk) 01:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion

Hello, you nominated a tracking category that is used by a template to show errors which at the moment is empty. Trigenibinion (talk) 15:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Trigenibinion,

If it's the category I'm thinking of, it is no longer empty and the tag has been removed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I have to thank you because my documentation was outdated, and I also learned how I have to tag such categories. Regards. Trigenibinion (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Deletion review for Category:Mayors of Davao City

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Mayors of Davao City. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Thank you for letting me know. Please remember to sign your talk page posts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Eh, I thought the template did that. Thanks for the reminder. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Your message on my talk page

Hi. Regarding your message on my talk page: You're right about the deletion request process. I'm not new on WP, but have been inactive a looong time, so forgive some lapses. Regarding your other note: I've never been a fan of archiving once things are settled, but I'll think of something. Best, Robert Kerber (talk) 23:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, Robert, we all have areas where we can learn something. Personally, I try to have little interaction with files and images. If you have any questions, let me know or I often recommend the Teahouse, if it hadn't been around when I was a new editor, I probably would have quit years ago. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

2600:1017:B0AD:7FD7:FDC7:DC6C:AA03:878A

Can user:2600:1017:B0AD:7FD7:FDC7:DC6C:AA03:878A please be blocked ASAP? Thank you. CLCStudent (talk) 01:36, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Taken care of and I've protected the article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:34, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

On-going film page deletion

Hello Liz, The film page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysore_Masala:_The_UFO_Incident was deleted based on a proposal about it being shelved during production. That is untrue and we've been working on the post-production of the same through COVID times. The film is almost complete and is in the sound-mix stage. I would appreciate this page be restored. You can find activities of the film on its social media pages (@mysoremasalafilm). Appreciate your help on this. Thank you. Zaphodbroxy (talk) 02:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Zaphodbroxy,

It's not a matter of convincing me, Mysore Masala: The UFO Incident was tagged with a Proposed deletion tag which is for uncontroversial deletions. It can be restored upon request so that is what I've done.

Also, when you add a comment to any talk page, please put it at the bottom of the page. When new messages are posted in the middle of a talk page, it is very easy to miss them. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Possible deletion of Love Is Strength

Hi. Because we just had the discussion: I think this article (on a lost film) also "qualifies" for deletion. No citations have been added since they had been asked for in May 2019. Before I add a deletion request template and inform the original creator: would you agree or is this deletion request not worth the effort? (I. e. would probably be denied a deletion.) Thanks Robert Kerber (talk) 17:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, User:Robert Kerber,

That article looks like a good candidate for a PROD. If another editor disagrees and "de-PRODs" the article (removes the tag), it doesn't reflect poorly on you. We have editors who go through categories and PROD dozens of subpar articles...those efforts require more care. I'd just PROD articles that you happen to come across that you think qualify for an uncontroversial deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:07, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Will do so, thanks Robert Kerber (talk) 18:26, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:Liz, a short postscriptum: I've left deletion requests on two pages which happen to be from the same author. On his talk page, the author explicitly states that he does NOT wish notifications of requested deletions posted on his page. I guess I can leave it like this, then. Let me know if you think otherwise or have a different suggestion. Thanks Robert Kerber (talk) 18:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:Liz, as a user denied the deletion for reasons I do not regard sufficient, I started a discussion for a 2nd AfD. In case this interests you: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Love_Is_Strength_(2nd_nomination). Thanks Robert Kerber (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

one of your G13s

Draft:Hiram W. Duncan was a State senator. I found a 2nd ref and accepted it. (I will admit, it took over an hour, mainly to rule out the other people with similar names) DGG ( talk ) 07:51, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

there were a few other G13s I restored, but this was the clearest that was unquestionably notable DGG ( talk ) 07:57, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, DGG, you rescue quite a few aging drafts, thanks for letting me know about this one. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bordrin vehicles

Hello Liz! I saw that you nominated my category Bordrin vehicles for nomination. Just wanted to tell you that the reason that category is empty because my article Bordrin was moved to draftspace, which also messed up some redirect pages to Bordrin. DestinationFearFan (talk) 16:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, DestinationFearFan,

Empty categories are tagged for 7 days. If they are still empty after a week, they are deleted. If they aren't empty, the CSD tag is removed. And any categories that are deleted simply for being empty can be recreated when they are needed. I hope this helps. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

It does, thank you! DestinationFearFan (talk) 22:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

User:Starzoner

Hi Liz, sorry to bother you. I just want to know what you think of this. I ask you because you are the one who almost every day leaves a new deletion notice on his talk page. For me it is unfair that in its attempt to monopolize all the articles that it can request the recovery of editions that were deleted because they were abandoned. In any case, I think the correct thing to do would be to request the restoration before another user recreates it and not after. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 13:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Bruno,

That is a curious request. All I'll say is that there are a few editors who start a huge number of drafts with minimal content. I expect they think they will eventually get around to working on them and these CSD G13 deletion notices I post on their talk pages are, to them, just reminders of drafts they had forgotten about. This is not the way most content creators here work which is on one or a few drafts at a time, polishing them up over time.

But I'd try not to let this situation bother you. Over the years, I've seen lots of productive editors get into trouble when they can't let go of conflicts with editors that get under their skin and I think that is just tragic for them and for Wikipedia. I think in these situations, it's best to just keep your distance and focus on the part of editing that you enjoy. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:19, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok Liz, you're right. It does not make sense to initiate this type of conflict that later can translate into blockages. Thank you for taking the time to respond and we apologize for the inconvenience. Greetings. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

... Starzoner (talk) 20:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Direct Contact Request

Hi—thank you for your feedback on my talk page r/t that direct contact request. This all seems very strange. That IP has emailed me and it does seem to be the individual that they are claiming to be (email matches up with what is on their website, etc.). They are now requesting a phone conversation or a Zoom meeting, and honestly, it feels like an attempt to intimidate me. I appreciate your advice on my page. - Hobomok (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Hobomok,

I would trust your gut. The person already has your email address and personally, I would want to retain my anonymity. It's also unfair that they seem to hold you responsible for the state of an article that anyone can edit. You know more about this person than I do so perhaps you are curious enough to want to engage them to hear what they have to say but, personally, I wouldn't do so given the hostility they have expressed towards you. Editing Wikipedia is a volunteer activity and you should never feel compelled to have contact off-line with any of us. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:10, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

My Userpage

Thanks for restoring my userpage. I was really confused when I saw the deletion log in my watchlist. That was honestly *very* random CSD tagging. Starzoner (talk) 15:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Starzoner,

It was strange indeed because the editor who tagged your user page was very new and the admin should have questioned the appropriateness of the CSD tagging. 04:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Liz ^{Read! Talk!}

Nicholas Alahverdian

New news recently. starship.paint (exalt) 04:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me, Starship.paint, I contacted the local paper after the Wikipediocracy stories and looking into his sockpuppet accounts that have still been editing here and on the Commons and contesting edits. It was bizarre that Wikipediocracy, who really fear no one, removed those articles so there must have been some legal threat which just makes one wonder who would have issued a threat. I simply suggested to the local reporter that they look into this story but there was no response so I thought there probably wasn't any story here, that it was just a strange situation that would remain unexplained. It will be interesting to see if there is any move to remove the new information on BLP grounds. What a weird situation especially given his role here as an editor. Thanks again for informing me. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:00, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Excellent work, Liz. Have you seen this? Wonder if it is from this person? Wonder if someone will investigate. starship.paint (exalt) 07:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Interesting, Starship.paint, because the lawyer signing the DMCA states his address is in Cambridge, MA, where Alahverdian was from, but the attorney's own website says that he is retired and living in Florida. And even when he was practicing law, he wasn't licensed to practice in MA but in other states. And the previous effort of trying to replace ones image on Wikipedia with a photo of someone else that anyone can see is not you? More strange inconsistencies. Or a sloppy job covering your tracks.

I didn't know that the WMF posted DMCAs publicly, that's also interesting to see. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:46, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Did you see this discussion? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I have responded there. How about this? starship.paint (exalt) 01:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I had not heard of Lumen before this. I see he's been sending dozens of notices to Google since 2013. Considering how hungry he was for publicity early in his life, it's interesting how he's trying to remove every photo of himself from the Internet. According to latest news story, he owes quite a lot of money to family members. I posted a message to the WMF representative asking whether they confirmed the identity of the person who states he represents the Alahverdian Trust. We'll see if I get a response. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:44, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

The Stranger Within a Woman

Hi User:Liz, can you help here or suggest someone who can?
The page The Stranger Within a Woman had been erroneously moved to page The Thin Line (1966 film) by a user. The Stranger Within a Woman is the main title, The Thin Line a more seldom used a.k.a./alternative title. In the article's head section, the correct title has been reinstated – see article history. Still, we now have a redirect from The Stranger to The Thin Line, when it should be the other way around. To do this, the Stranger page has to be deleted by an admin first, according to WP:MOVE#Undoing_a_move, so The Thin Line (1966 film) can be moved back and its history and subsequent edits preserved. I don't want to tilt history and subsequent edits with a simple copy–paste-job. Best Robert Kerber (talk) 17:44, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Robert,

I moved the article back to its original location. FYI, it's not appropriate to PROD a redirect, they are only meant for articles. If you ever want to delete a redirect, propose it at WP:RFD. If you want to do a move which you are prevented from doing because of this kind of situation, you can go to WP:RM or just ask an admin which you did in this case. I hope this helps. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I see. Many thanks, Liz. Robert Kerber (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

176.59.41.41

Can user:176.59.41.41 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 20:24, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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File:Winterbild.jpg

Hello, can you check the deleted edits from the user who uploaded the file? I would like to know where the pictured location is. (I want to move the file to Commons, but I need the context for that). --TheImaCow (talk) 08:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, TheImaCow,

I don't think their deleted edits would be helpful. One was a duplicate image of the one you are concerned with and the second was the image of a boat that was deleted because it had no licensing information. The only additional content on that second image was a URL that now is a dead link. Sorry it didn't have any more useful information. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Well then. I moved the image to Commons and put it in the category "Basel", because the user has edited something in the Basel article, and because you can see a Swiss flag on the image, that's better than nothing. Thanks for the help anyway! --TheImaCow (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Windmills completed in 1975

I've contested the speedy deletion of this category, which was emptied by another editor. Discussion is currently taking place at talk:Weald and Downland Living Museum#Cats and navbox. Mjroots (talk) 20:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Mjroots,

Categories sometime get "emptied out of process". This is why empty categories sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion after being tagged CSD C1, so that any improper emptying can be looked into and perhaps reversed. As soon as the category is no longer empty, the tag will be removed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, right, so we've got time then. I notified all relevant WPs of the discussion. I'm sure we can reach an acceptable conclusion here. Mjroots (talk) 20:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

75.108.148.104

Can user:75.108.148.104 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Coyote ‎

Can Coyote ‎ please be protected ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 01:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. I've blocked a couple IP addresses but this user from Oxford is jumping around IP addresses. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

173.70.243.56

Can user:173.70.243.56 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 01:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

CATEGORY:X9

Hello, you just hung {{d|c1}} on the page I created. What you don't know, however, is that a user broke the page I created before. As a result, the classification happened to conform to CSD C1. Please don't make this mistake again, thank you!--Alcremie (talk) 04:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Alcremie,

Except for a few exceptions, empty categories are deleted on Wikipedia if they are still empty after 7 days. If the category is no longer empty, the tag will be removed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Male, a nerd

Hello, Liz. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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RevDel request

Hi Liz, will you please revdel this. S0091 (talk) 20:54, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for your quick action, S0091. I also appreciate you going through stale drafts so thoroughly and transferring drafts in good shape to the main space of the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Liz! I am pleasantly surprised there is as much salvageable there given all the cruft we see. Thanks for you do around here as well. S0091 (talk) 21:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For all your relentless dedication to G-13 related deletions. You are definitely a tireless alien. Haha Celestina007 (talk) 23:25, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Celestina007. Having editors tag them first sure saves me a lot of time so thank you, and a few other editors, for all your work.

I think I'll move on sometime soon to a different activity. As far as editing tasks go, it's a bit tedious...I see a lot of blank pages and it's great to know that AFC is approving so many good drafts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

It’s always an honor to work with you Liz. Celestina007 (talk) 23:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

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Deletion of Joe Roche article

You deleted the Joe Roche article last month. Next time you prod to delete a page, you should have the common courtesy to leave a comment on the user page of the person who created it. That's pretty common Wikipedia etiquette. The page was on wikipedia for 15 years and questioning the sources by simply stating you don't think a major regional newspaper is a satisfactory source is not academic or the way that a deletion discussion is usually done. David Straub (talk) 10:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, David Straub,

Notifying the page creator of a page that is tagged for deletion is the responsibility of the editor who tagged the page who, in this case, was Eddie891. The page tagger is the editor who provides the justification for deletion. I'm sorry you weren't notified.

Since it was deleted as a PROD, any administrator can restore the page if that is what you want. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:19, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

in this case, twinkle notified the wrong person, though it is not required to notify the creator I would have if I realized the error. Why that happened, I could not tell you. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Granni has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Granni. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Saifai

Liz - I'm unclear as to why you deleted Talk:Saifai "G8: Talk page of a nonexistent or deleted page" as we still have a page Saifai - not sure what, if anything, was on it when you deleted it? - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 18:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for catching this, Arjayay. An editor changed the redirect target of Statue of Krishna and it showed up on the Broken Redirect list as broken. I deleted it and and when I went to delete the talk page, Talk:Statue of Krishna, it was a correct redirect to Talk:Saifai and I didn't notice that I was now on a different page. So, I made two mistakes and I'm glad you brought it to my attention. Everything is restored now and Statue of Krishna now points to the correct redirect, Saifai. Changing redirect targets is an infrequent form of vandalism but it does happen. Thanks again for telling me so I could make the correct changes. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

RevDel request

Hello admin, sorry to bother you but can you please remove the edit summaries of this and this edit? Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for catching these...let me know if the editor persists. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I'm keeping an eye on their edits. Ashleyyoursmile! 18:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

5-month AFC notifications

I can't for the life of my find the thread from a few weeks ago where we discussed this, but it looks like User:Bot0612 is back to notifying users when their draft is 5 months old. Thought you might like to know! Primefac (talk) 13:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah! Thanks for letting me know, Primefac. The discussion over the past months actually happened in a couple different places but the one where I know you weighed in was here on AFC, back in October. Glad it finally came together...I should have gone straight to Bot Requests! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted draft

You recently deleted Draft:National Consumer Law Center. Could you please email me the text of the deleted draft and its edit history? I created the draft as part of a legal internship with the National Consumer Law Center, and its been years since the person I've been working with last contacted me. I fully understand there is no point in keeping the draft on Wikipedia, but I'd like a copy for my personal records. (My personal email is already linked to this account). Spirit of Eagle (NCLC) (talk) 18:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Spirit of Eagle (NCLC),

This draft was deleted as a CSD G13 which is a stale draft that hasn't been edited in six months. These deletions can be restored upon request. So, I have restored Draft:National Consumer Law Center and you can copy the information or continue to work on it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I've saved everything that I wanted to save. Spirit of Eagle (NCLC) (talk) 20:14, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

User talk:37.48.49.94

Hi Liz Apologies but I see you were active blocking someone recently, could you please take a look at the above (use google translate on their reply to my level 1 warning). Thanks JW 1961 Talk 21:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Joseywales1961,

Thanks for the head's up, especially regarding the translation. I've given the editor a short block from editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and good night from Ireland (calling it a day!) JW 1961 Talk 22:08, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

User talk deletion

Hi Liz, when I created the user talk archive you just speedily deleted here it was in response to a request to delete following a renaming. I could see the motivation for deletion, but I didn't want to delete the record of discussion because "User talk pages and user talk archives created by page move are generally not deleted; they are usually needed for reference by other users" (WP:DELTALK). Creating the archive with the old name replaced by the new one was a workaround that addressed both these issues, but you undid that without discussing it with me. I don't see a good reason to remove the talk archive, so could you explain? Fences&Windows 20:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Fences and windows,

I just saw that Oman160 requested that his page be deleted. Every day, I remove CSD tags from user talk pages that have been tagged for deletion with the explanation that we don't delete user talk pages but I guess I messed this one up. I'll restore it. My apologies. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Liz, I thought I might be missing something about the process but I see it was a slip. Oman160, please leave be that record of prior discussions. Fences&Windows 20:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

67.71.191.100

Can user:67.71.191.100 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Apologies

My apologies, looks like I had reverted the wrong version. Thank you for reverting the edit, blocking the user, and protecting the article. --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem, Ashleyyoursmile, I thought it was incidental vandalism but it looks like it's persistent sockpuppet accounts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, they are a sock of Szczepan76 who has been globally locked [8]. Thank you very much for protecting the article. Ashleyyoursmile! 16:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Caste categories

Hi Liz, I've just removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Category:Other Backward Classes of Karnataka. That category, like several analogous ones, is often emptied by those who have a caste-system-related POV to push; but the fact that they are empty at any given time is a poor indicator of their necessity. There are several caste-based categories used by the Indian Union government or the various state governments, and unless and until that changes, such categorization is going to be valid and useful. If an empty category is a maintenance issue, a post to WT:INB will usually help fix it. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 18:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Vanamonde,

Thanks for letting me know about this situation. Cases like this are one big reasons why empty categories sit for a week to make sure they haven't been emptied "out of process". Unfortunately, there is no edit history about what articles were in categories that were removed so unless one is familiar with the subject, it can be hard to backtrack to reverse category changes. If this happens again with a caste category, I will go to WT:INB and post a notice there. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate that it's hard to track, and very few people bother with tracking categories anyway. I'm only likely to see such a problem at all if I see a deletion notice somewhere. With respect to empty caste categories, it's often useful to check who the creator was; if it's an experienced editor, odds are it has been emptied inappropriately. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 19:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Atlanticetus

Did you look at the history before you deleted this article? I can't see that there was any need to delete it after I spent some time checking and improving it. The content is supported by good, albeit primary, sources. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Peter coxhead,

The issue with Atlanticetus was not your contribution to the article but the fact that the page was created by a sockpuppet of a blocked editor and the policy is to delete these pages. I have restored it for you but another admin might see fit to delete it again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring it. I'd just point out that if it is deleted, then so should Template:Taxonomy/Atlanticetus be, since I only created it to fix the taxobox error in the article. (I monitor the taxobox error-checking categories most days.) I also created redirects to the article, which should also be deleted. It's all very well having a blanket policy of deleting articles created by banned users, but if they have been integrated into Wikipedia (and Wikidata), then this integration should be cleaned up. It's like moving an article; movers are requested to clean up afterwards. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Jack P.

I see you deleted Draft:Jack Palmer (Mathematician) as a blatant hoax. You might want to read User talk:Davidwr/Archives/Archive 47#New page, opened back on the 15th, about the same topic. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, davidwr,

It wasn't just Draft:Jack Palmer (Mathematician) page, it was other Jack Palmer pages, moving disambiguation pages around, a lot of disruption. And according to this draft, this 22 year old mathematician had all of these marvelous accomplishments ("genius cryptographer") without any citations backing up anything. If it's not a hoax, then it was awfully promotional with no supporting references. There was also some strange editing going on with both User:MarcusLowryLol and Alexhair93 working on these articles and drafts. All put together, it was not a typical "I want to write a draft article" situation although I think you offered the user some good advice. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Even with WP:AGF dialed up to eleven, this sounds like a combo of "too soon, if ever" and "fan-boys/WP:COI", which translates as "WP:NOTWEBHOST/WP:NOTPROMO, other web hosting services exist that may meet your needs, good luck to you". davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thankyou for your understanding and support. It’s an honor to work with you Liz. Kirsaan.jatt (talk) 06:30, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

beetle redirects

Hi. Thanks for letting me know the chain of things here, most of this makes sense in light of the bot flagging. All but one of the IP edits were aligned with the present world catalogue just released in 2020, the problem is that the article on Megacephala is based on an outdated 2011 resource (outdated even in 2011, as the genus-rank changes took place in 2007), so only a few of the redirects pointed to articles that were under the correct genus name, Tetracha, which I'd begun to iron out recently. You'll note that six species actually had TWO articles in WP until recently, because one author established the Megacephala article and a different author later established the Tetracha article without realizing that the six Tetracha species they created articles for already had articles under the old genus name. I've just cleared up the confusion by creating/moving articles to the "target" titles, so the redirects now all point where they need to. The one exception is one that didn't need to be a redirect, as the article in the old genus had the wrong species name, and needed to be renamed anyway. Thanks, Dyanega (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for undeletion of Draft:Janine Beichman

Hi, I'd like to request the undeletion of Draft:Janine Beichman. I've been a bit occupied, between the week-long block by an admin helping out a bunch of POV pushers and the open-heart surgery that went sideways on the table. When I get out of the hospital, I'll probably have time to work on it, as she seems to be a scholar worth an article.

--Calton | Talk 00:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Happy to restore a draft. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Recently WP:PROD U-15 Football Teams

Hi Liz, is there any way to restore both Haiti national under-15 football team and Puerto Rico national under-15 football team? I was late to remove these proposals. The argument was based on the discussion here which is still ongoing and did not mention these teams in the discussion by name, though it seems like a mass deletion campaign for the U-15 Football Teams in general. I had voiced my concern to keep, in this discussion where the decision is currently at odds; a split.

Now, I could very well recreate these pages because I do argue that they do indeed satisfy WP:GNG, but I do not think it is fair to the other contributors and the history of these pages would be lost as well. These expirations are not far removed and I was a bit preoccupied today and wasn't able to formally address these concerns and remove these days.

I urge you if possible, to restore these 2 articles and I will be sure to source these independent sources myself.

Thank you kindly Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Savvyjack23,

Proposed deletions (PRODs) are considered uncontroversial deletions so if they are contested, the tag is removed and they are restored. Other forms of deletion, like AFD deletion discussions, are more difficult but PRODs are easy to respond to. However, the editor who nominated them for proposed deletion might take them to AFD where you will have to provide some justification or improve them to meet article expectations. As of now, however, they are restored. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Understood and thank you!! Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liz, sorry to bother again. Is it possible to recover the talk pages for these two articles as well? I can't remember if there was any content on them. Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

D'uh! Do not feel like you are bothering me, Savvyjack23, for some reason, I sometimes forget to restore the talk page as well. Sorry you had to come back! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:32, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha, no worries that's like me all the time and thanks again! -By the way, you have some really neat userboxes; you are reinspiring my fascination! I love the Old-fashioned Wikipedian values one in particular Have an awesome weekend! Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:44, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Mistaken identity

This is not my article, User:Hdjukic/sandbox, maybe you should take the time to check first before posting comments on my talk page. Not appreciated. Dan arndt (talk) 10:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Dan arndt, Twinkle sends a talk page notice to the first editor of a page which you were in this case. I don't know why you don't remember. We are not going to change Twinkle to stop sending out page creator notices because these notices are appropriate. But I promise to never send you a talk page notice, for any reason, since that seems to be what you are requesting. I'm bewildered why you are offended by a talk page notice but since you are so bothered, I will omit ever posting one ever again to your talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I think he got caught up in "Twinkle treats a page mover as a page creator." Personally, I think Twinkle should be sensitive to pages that started life as redirects and also alert the editor of the first post-redirect-edit, but I don't see this as an urgent feature request. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, davidwr. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

63.234.150.121

Can user:63.234.150.121 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism; see their filter too. They just came off a 31-hour block. CLCStudent (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done

PizzaHutWadsworth

Can user:PizzaHutWadsworth please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 18:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Please review the draft

Hi, please review the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shabri_Prasad_Singh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabri1112 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Re the American Idiot

Question though, I kind of waited for deletion to recreate, although I respect your choice to restore. Admittedly, most of the edits are sockpuppet edits, so I wasn't really sure to just simply remove the g13 tag. Starzoner (talk) 00:12, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Starzoner, I think your interest in being the first edit or page creator is misguided and will get you into trouble here. It doesn't matter who creates the article, please just focus on improving the existing articles. Don't wait to improve articles until after they have been deleted or keep score or who gets credit.

As for this particular article, it was not deleted because of sockpuppet activity but simply was a G13 and stale drafts are restored upon request or if contested. Recreating the article the same day it was deleted is a form of contesting the deletion of this draft on this subject.

In a positive sense, there is now a lot of existing content in the edit history that you can make use of that was not accessible until it was restored. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Alright thank you. I'll just focus more on content instead of seeing my name as the first edit. I think I'm getting ahead of myself now. I apologize. Starzoner (talk) 00:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Question on what to do

First, thanks in the prior thread for telling me to not worry about being first as creator. I have a question now regarding another user who is bent on getting "first". Basically, regarding Draft:Untitled Pet Sematary prequel, the other user created it first by a few minutes, but I created my own draft (not knowing his earlier draft). He insisted on merging and copying over content (including a copy paste of my work to his draft) that his is better. I admittedly want to keep my own draft to work on, as I don't wnat to just simply throw away the revisions. Instead, he is threatening to report me to WP:AN, again. What should be done in this situation? Starzoner (talk) 13:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

As always, you only count the things that are convenient for you. For example, I have no problem sending to delete a draft because another user already created it before me. This can be see in Draft:Untitled Beavis & Butt-Head film that I request delete without any problem and then add that information in your draft. You're the one with drafts like this one you created, even though there is already Draft: Untitled Bong Joon-ho film that is much better written and referenced. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 13:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Question about categories and redirects

Hi Liz, I was hoping you might have time to answer a question I had about categories and redirects.

The redirect I was looking at is Bāti Dēlōmbira Mahfuz. Is this a case where WP:INCOMPATIBLE applies and the article cats are appropriate? or should they be replaced with maintenance cats for redirects? possibly both?

I noticed you had nominated a couple of cats Heesxiisoleh had created re: Somalia, for deletion which is what led me to you for this question. On a side note, I was wondering if you had any previous concerns about notability, sourcing, and the biographies this user is creating.

Hope this finds you well, best wishes from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  09:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Timothy,

Sorry for my tardy response, I seem to have missed your talk page message when it was posted.

I don't create many redirects, although I correct many broken redirects, so I'm no expert on categorizing them. Most redirects are not categorized at all and those that I have dealt with that are categorized typically have 1-3 categories at most. Bāti Dēlōmbira Mahfuz has a large number, six, but it was created by Aciram who has over 80,000 edits so I would just let this one go as being an exception to the common practice.

I have at times removed categories from redirect pages when the category was empty except for a redirect...I don't think having one redirect in an otherwise empty category justifies the category existing, I think there should be at least one article for each category although I know that there are editors who would disagree with my stance. But removing categories from redirects hasn't happened very often because, as I said, most redirects are not categorized at all. I would like to say that editors are following Wikipedia guidelines for categorizing redirects but I think it mostly comes down to the preferences of the redirect creator rather than some hard-and-fast rule. Some categorize the redirects they create but most don't bother with them.

As for Heesxiisoleh, the categories I tagged were CSD C1, empty categories, an activity I do almost daily. Many newer editors create categories before they are needed so empty categories pop up daily, we have a daily report on them at Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories. I haven't looked at their other edits but now I'll take a look and see if anything is obviously amiss. But creating empty categories is not a concern in itself unless the editor doesn't read their CSD notices and continues to create them.

I hope all is well in LA. Send us in the NW U.S. some of your sunshine! By March, I'm pretty tired of the rain. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Bernadette Mabel Manjaji-Matsumoto

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Bernadette Mabel Manjaji-Matsumoto requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I just created this category because it was on the Wanted categories list. Whatever will be, will be. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Osvaldo Takeshi Oyakawa

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Osvaldo Takeshi Oyakawa requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Two for two! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Edson H.L. Pereira

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Edson H.L. Pereira requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

What, UnitedStatesian, are all of these Wanted categories bad? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, all bad. In the cases where the discoverer does not have a Wikipedia article, there should not be a "Taxa named by . . ." category. See the comment on the talkpage of the mass editor, at User talk:Phil Fish#Category pages. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, UnitedStatesian. There are literally dozens of these "Taxa named by" categories on the Wanted categories list, it's the biggest group of red link categories. I guess some have been tagging pages with too many red links. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Hopefully slightly fewer on the list than when I started working through them; will be reflected on the next re-run. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:48, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

I never paid much attention to these pages until this week. They, along with Unused categories, seem to be run every three days. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi,

I only have one comment: The reason there is no species in the Edson H. L. Pereira page is because someone removed them from the species page.Phil Fish (talk) 21:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

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please see my comment on my talk page. Starzoner (talk) 20:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: David August (March 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Blocking vandals! AntoineHound (talk) 01:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your vigilance, AntoineHound. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Empty category notifications

Hi Liz, could you please add me to your list of those who you won't notify regarding speedy deletion of empty categories. Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 16:00, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy to add you to the list, Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I need your intervention

Hello Liz, sorry for coming here but I would like to ask you to delete the first four editions that appear here because it seems unfair to me that he claim authorship of something that he didn't really do (I did not create the draft but it is still unfair to the user who created it ). I went here directly because you already know well the behavior of the user in question. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 01:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm sympathetic to your plight, Bruno Rene Vargas, I think this gaming of the system to have "the first edit" is frankly the most ridiculous behavior I have come across in my 7 years on Wikipedia. But I can't justify deleting someone's edit's to make a point.

However, you see more of these sketchy page moves, where a valid draft is blanked and a newer version moved to take its place, please let me know. More of this childish gamesmanship could result in a block. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I have been looking at this list and as you will see there are many drafts created from empty articles. In a quick search I have found again two cases similar to the one I reported previously:

• this created by AdanXX
• and this created by HM2021

I want to take advantage and also show that there are cases like this or this where there is clearly no interest in creating drafts to continue working on them later. Like these examples, there are hundreds of drafts in these conditions.

And as if all this were not enough here you can see that he has a long list of empty articles that he later uses to make movements like this.

I have already reported all this on three occasions but there was no sanction except for certain deletions. That is also why I no longer want to go back to report it because they will say that I am harassing him. I hope the links that I provide here will serve you and you find the fairest way to solve all this. Greetings. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 04:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Vulpes vulpes amicus

Hello Liz, no such subspecies exists. I have just removed mention of it from the Red fox article, which appears to be where the problem originated according to the creating editor (and possibly where you saw it). Either it has come from some un-WP:RELIABLE website in the past, or someone is having a joke at Wikipedia's expense. Even the Silver fox (animal) article itself is not a subspecies, and certainly not the domesticated form. Thus, I have tagged it as a hoax. William Harris (talk) 07:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation, William Harris. When I saw the term in the Red fox article, I thought that the page had been mistakenly tagged. I appreciate your vigilance. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liz, I have had a chat with the originator, who created the redirect in good faith because of the classification appearing on the Red fox article. No doubt some other editor found it on an un-WP:RELIABLE website and thought that they were helping by placing it there long ago. A discussion at User talk:Lithopsian#Vulpes vulpes amicus has me now sorted out on a the appropriate procedural matters. Regards, William Harris (talk) 04:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Some delicious stroopwafels for you!

I <3 you Temperance Cook (talk) 01:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Yum! Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Me again...

Excuse me Liz for coming here again but following your advice I come to inform you of this, where clearly the user after seeing that I create this draft again does the same thing that he had been doing previously. I was recently denied permission to page-mover, which is not bad, but it seems unfair that a user like Starzoner does have it, misuses the permission and the worst thing is that nobody says anything to him. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 18:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Bruno Rene Vargas,

It looks like his action was prompted by this message on his talk page rather than your edit. He got a bot notice saying that his draft was going to be deleted so he expanded it. But I'll post a note on his talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:MC30 Yanos (disambiguation)

I don't think that MC30 Yanos (disambiguation) was an edit error as such. I have no idea what the originator was or is trying to do. It definitely didn't belong in article space, and neither did its sibling, so I moved them both to draft space as being quicker than CSD tagging them. I wasn't sure what to tag either of them as. I don't really care what argument was found to delete them. G6 was fine, because G6 is basically stuff that needs deleting for no other obvious reason. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:14, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Traci Callahan

Hi Liz, I thought any edit by a human would prevent a draft from G13 but perhaps I misunderstood. I added a source to this one (I think) but I see you just deleted it. Sometimes if I am on the fence tagging it as "promising", I may make a dummy edit with an edit summary or add a source if I find one, etc. Am I wrong? Thanks! S0091 (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

No, S0091, you are not wrong! For days last month, I double-checked dozens and dozens drafts tagged as CSD G13s and found that our regular crew of stale draft taggers were not making any mistakes. So, I stopped checking them all.

This draft shouldn't have been tagged for deletion. Some of our stale draft taggers like yourself work with Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions and some work off the SDZeroBot list. The advantage of the SDZeroBot list is that it is more comprehensive than the AFC G13 category, the disadvantage is that the current day's list is from a week ago and so you have to check each and every draft to make sure that there have been no edits in the past week. I assume the page tagger didn't check the edit history for this page and took it from the list. This doesn't happen often but it can happen so I'm glad you brought it to my attention. I'm happy to restore it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:22, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I understand Liz believe me. As you know, I had tagged some a bit early and now am trying to be super mindful of the time stamps but I am sure I will make that mistake again at some point. I tend to get lost a bit going back and forth trying to determine if something is promising. I also may work ahead in the list as the research can take some time and I have had drafts be deleted while I am doing research. Poof! Anyway, I do know you are careful which is why I questioned myself about the "rules". Thanks again. S0091 (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, S0091, I appreciate you taking the time to evaluate them and tag the promising ones. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I will never be a content writer because I loathe writing lol, but noted other editor's concerns about G13 so thought I could do "something". I am not sure if anyone here actually does anything with the drafts in the promising draft category though, so it could all be futile. Time will tell, I suppose. S0091 (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Boris Berenfeld has been restored, weirdly

Instead of going for a refund request the text of the draft has been copied and pasted from https://en.everybodywiki.com/Boris_Berenfeld where an inspection of its history there appears to show that it has been scraped from us, and badly, complete with a pseudo-history as if on WP.

Since this is a pond where you have significantly greater experience than I do, do you favour:

1. Ignoring it and treating it as a new draft?
2. Refunding the G13 version and overwriting the "new" version?
3. Refunding the G13 version and performing a history merge?
4. some other action

CommanderWaterford spotted the new location, and doubtless the editor who pasted it here, a new editor, Hzyaz will be interested in the outcome since they copied and pasted it here, albeit not in an acceptable form. This was a G13 actioned by you, hence my message. Fiddle Faddle 08:07, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Timtrent

I'm not sure of the "right" answer here but what I decided to do was restore the previous 51 edits of this page which I think is the same result as a history merge since the previous edits were all from early 2020. I couldn't replace the new version with the old under the page title since the system treats the old edits as deleted edits for the same page. So the entire edit history of both versions is there but you only see the current version. It's possible now to revert to an earlier version of the page, I'm not sure whether that is what you or Hzyaz would prefer to do. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

I have no preference for action, so I will leave the status quo as it is. Thank you for scratching your head over this one Fiddle Faddle 20:14, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Please consider restoring the page "Netbackup". Thank you.

Hi. I was involved in some edits on the "Netbackup" page some time ago and see that you've deleted the whole page. You've given "G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page" as the reason but I'm sure the page was there and the cached one on Google shows a complete page with lots of links. I think someone incorrectly tagged it as being "promotional material" but that is not correct at all. I didn't see them do that, otherwise I would have contested it. Please could you consider restoring the page "Netbackup"? Thanks. Gareth.randall (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Gareth

Newbackup was simply a broken redirect to NetBackup, an article that was deleted by admin Iridescent for CSD G11 "unambiguous advertising or promotion" reasons. It was tagged by editor Mottezen. I don't restore pages that have been deleted by another admin in a judgment call so you'd have to ask Iridescent about this. Perhaps it is possible that there is an earlier version of the article that isn't as promotional but for a 15 year old article with 272 edits, it would be hard to go into the deleted edit history and find it. Or perhaps Iridescent would restore it to your user space, you'd have to ask. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the history of NetBackup, although there are 272 revisions very few are significant changes. Reviewing the changes, it's been pure spam (essentially just an expanded list of product features) since its original expansion back in 2005; prior to that it was an unsourced substub that read in full Veritas Netbackup (currently versions 6.x) is an enterprise level backup and recovery suite. It provides backup functionality to Windows, Linux, and Unix environments. NetBackup has the capability of communicating with various robotic libraries and tapes drives. It's probably a legitimate topic, but I can't see anything really salvageable in any version of this article—if you genuinely think you can make it neutral I'm willing to restore it but to be honest you're probably better off rewriting from scratch, as the standards of Wikipedia 15 years ago are very different from the standards of Wikipedia now. ‑ Iridescent 22:42, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Revdel Request

Hi Liz, WP:REVDELREQUEST for [9] , IP added unsourced BLPCRIME stuff. Thank yoouuu.... CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for catching that. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:55, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion restore

Is it okay to restore the page Draft:Christopher Saul, which you deleted back at Christmas. I feel it can be worked on further.2A00:23C6:D884:6401:7D9A:6C56:5A21:4CA9 (talk) 11:30, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hi Liz, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning for declining the CSD on the (now deleted) Deri Lorus draft. The page has repeatedly been recreated by sockpuppets [10], surely it qualifies for G5? -KH-1 (talk) 00:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, KH-1,

My reasoning is this: User:Prodflat created this page yesterday morning and yesterday night you tagged it as the work of a sockpuppet. But Prodflat was not blocked as a sockpuppet until about half an hour ago today. I declined the speedy 5-6 hours ago because Prodflat was not confirmed as a sockpuppet at the time I looked at the article.

A different admin might have accepted your suspicion that the editor was a sockpuppet but I need confirmation from a checkuser or SPI clerk before I delete an article based on a claim of CSD G5. If you look at my admin log you'll see that I deleted 24 pages today based on CSD G5 claims, so I'm not adverse to that speedy deletion criteria. It turns out that your suspicions were correct but in my admin capacity, I won't delete a page based on CSD G5 without confirmation and I hope you won't tag pages stating that a blocked editor has created a page until the page creator is confirmed to be a sockpuppet. I hope this helps explain my decision to untag that article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedian WikiOgres

Hi Liz, I really appreciate your contribution here, but I do not agree with the deletion of Wikipedian WikiOgres relying on an unclear and disputed 13 years old discussion. We currently have 56 WikiBears, 93 WikiCats, 4 WikiDragons, 425 WikiFairies, thousands of WikiGnomes, 86 WikiGryphons, 30 WikiHobbits, 52 WikiJanitors, 24 Hyphen Luddites, 10 WikiTigers and 4 WikiSquirrels. There are more than 300 WikiOgres here, why can't them be treated equally? Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 14:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Est. 2021,

I was upholding the previous deletion decision at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/User/Archive/January 2008#Category:Fantastic Wikipedia editors. Even if I were to restore this category for you, it wouldn't prevent the category from being tagged again and deleted by a different administrator (which I think would happen fairly quickly). My advice is to bring your request to WT:CFD and see what the editors and admins who frequent category deletion discussions would advise. This situation must have happened before.

The problem is that if this was an article deleted through an WP:AFD, it would be possible to draft a new version and pass it through WP:AFC to overcome a previous deletion decision but there is no existing process like this for categories. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

User talk:TheSpoonMan2000

Hi Liz, hope everything is well - What about removing talkpage access for this user ? CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Just wanted to get to know you

Hello @Liz! I'm new here and I wanted to get to know you. Is there anyone else you feel I should get to know? :) Aditi (she/her/hers) (talk) 14:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Aditi,

Welcome to Wikipedia! My advice is to make use of the Teahouse with any questions you have. My own introduction to Wikipedia was rocky and I know that I only continued to edit because folks at the Teahouse were very patient with all of my questions.

Also, review this information about Alternate accounts. You should stick to editing with one account unless you have a good reason for making use of a second account.

If you are having trouble finding a place to start, check out the hundreds of WikiProjects...they are projects that focus on a shared topic of interest. :Happy editing! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

The Midnight Club

Hi Liz, I would like you to help me by deleting The Midnight Club so that I can move my draft there since, as indicated there, the filming of the series has already begun. I ask you here because two days ago the mark for deletion but no one has attended my request. Greetings. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 21:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Bruno Rene Vargas,

I moved the page. I saw this request earlier and I don't remember why I hesitated to do it before. Let me know if you need the previous edits restored. The ones I'd restore involve the page when it was a redirect but I wouldn't restore the ones that concern the page when it was about a band. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

No need, it's fine as it is. Thank you very much for responding to my request. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 22:06, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Yoninah

Liz, I see you archiving from Yoninah's talk. When I die, please don't do that to my talk, leave it as it is (and no candle top, please.) The edit summary says the archived things go to Archive 1, but I don't find them there, nor in the last one. Where do they go? I believe that Yoninah's talk speaks the best volumes about what she did and stood for. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Gerda, it is very unusual for me to touch another editor's user talk page like this but for all deceased Wikipedians' talk pages I've seen, the talk pages are either blank or just have statements left in memory of them and their work. I wanted to do this gradually though in case anyone objected. I won't touch your talk pages in any circumstances unless to leave messages or respond to ones. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:29, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. Last thing first: do feel free to add to my talk then, just don't take away, please. - To me, the person who died speaks more in contributions than in our little summaries. I do clean-up many talk pages of users who retired, removing bot-messages and arbcom clutter. That stuff doesn't add much to understand a user, and on my talk I archive it quickly. When the great SBHB died, everything was archived, but I returned two threads I found indispensable, look and enjoy. (For more enjoyment: look at those archives.) Last question: where did the recently archived things go? I didn't find them in Archive 1. Perhaps I was blind, - also a higher number would make more sense for chronology. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:00, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The threads were moved to User talk:Yoninah/Archive 28 (some by me, some by another editor) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I see that you moved manually? Thank you. Sorry, I found it confusing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up after my attempts to clear the talk page, Pppery. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Prod

Hi Liz. Thanks for this note on their talkpage. For info, this has been raised with them multiple times before, which resulted in this ANI post where they agreed to use edit summaries when it comes to prods. Thanks again. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Hitchin-Stevenage Fibre Optic trial

In the third paragraph it says that Kao got a Nobel prize for the work that this was the proof of concept of. Elinruby (talk) 13:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, this category should be on Kao's own Wikipedia page and not on the page for the work that they won the prize for. Plus, it was a red link category, it wasn't even a valid category. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Category changes

Hi Liz. You may find User:Nardog/CatChangesViewer useful in your category work. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm always open to new tools, thanks, JJMC89. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Singapore model CSD

Hi Liz, regarding your edit summary on Singapore model, the creator 104.244.210.124 (talk · contribs) is a VPN IP of the same user that appeared with a named account the next day (ShelteredCook (talk · contribs)). Does this affect the CSD assessment? Thanks, CMD (talk) 07:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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indef?

this is obviously a troll sock, so please reconsider your block. VAXIDICAE💉 20:33, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

They are in fact a sock. VAXIDICAE💉 20:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

(ec):Yes, I was looking at an isolated edit, not all of their contributions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

DEPROD of State Line Mob

Hi Liz, just wanted to let you know that the Article you PRODed had been DEPRODED via [11] (I think DEPRODer should inform and if they don't I do it if I notice it...) Cheers, CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:10, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

This was not unexpected, CommanderWaterford. I hope that it will lead to article improvement. For an article that identifies individual people by name as criminals, without any sources, it's violating BLP. Thanks for letting me know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Liz, will check into detail tomorrow, for today I had enough :) CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Restoring an article I let sit around too long

Dear Liz

Hi I have not been on Wikipedia much in the last year and I seem to need some help. Your name was on one of the communiques to me, perhaps the last communique, and so I am asking you for help. If someone else would be better to ask, please let me know. Thanks.

Basically the article in question was called Draft: Jerrold Mundis. I am ready to finish it now and came back to find that I let it sit around too long. So it got deleted, just a few days ago it would appear. Understood. But I am not clear on how to get it back or what to do after that.

A button said "Restore the article" or something like that and I thought I did it right but I am not sure where things are at now so I was wondering if you could help me.

Basically I understand what needs to be done, I have the proper information now to finish the article and I would like to do so ASAP. I also need help in getting it from a Draft to an accepted article and part of Wikipedia after I make changes and deletions. Can you help? Thanks so much.

Isabel Ochone (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Isabel OchoneIsabel Ochone (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Isabel Ochone,

Drafts that have been deleted due to inactivity can be restored upon request either at WP:REFUND or by asking an administrator. I'm happy to restore Draft:Jerrold Mundis for you to work on.

When you feel it is ready, just put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page to submit it for review. If you have questions about the Articles for Creation review, just ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk and someone from the AFC review team can help you. If you have general questions about editing on Wikipedia, the Teahouse is a great place to get answers. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you SO much!! Sorry to be such a novice!! I will have a go. When you say put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page to submit it for review do you mean the very top of the page and just leave it and someone else will do the rest and get back to me? I will try that. Thanks for your clarity.

Isabel Ochone (talk) 00:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Isabel OchoneIsabel Ochone (talk) 00:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Isabel Ochone, yes, after you place that code at the top and save the page, you'll see that a box appears stating that it is in the process of being reviewed. It's a little unpredictable, sometimes drafts get reviewed right away and other times it can take a couple of weeks. We are all volunteers and the reviewers work on their own schedules. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:45, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Liz, thank you SO much. You really helped me out and I am very grateful. I put the draft up as you suggested. If there is anything you can do to expedite it, That would be great. If not, I understand. Best to you! Isabel Ochone (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

CS1

re https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Taxa_named_by_Jean-Henri_Humbert&type=revision&diff=1013717952&oldid=1013613360&diffmode=source

please note as I have it on my watch - it is not a CS1 - so have reverted, in good faith. Thanks. JarrahTree 02:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, JarrahTree,

It is not uncommon for categories to be temporarily empty for a variety of reasons. That's why they sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion before being deleted. Any time you see a category tagged CSD C1 that is no longer empty, just remove the tag. I check a couple of times a day but obviously don't catch everything. But thanks for letting me know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Any time - you have a very thankless task... JarrahTree 02:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hello Liz Glad to find you. You have recently edited my article Government Degree College No.02 Mardan. I am Thankful that you have improved my article. Wanna ask for more help. If I want to protect my article can I do? If can so guide me please Sultan Abdul sultan (talk) 12:23, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Talk etiquette error

Hello Liz I left notes on a Talk page for a non-existent Wikipedia page, Talk:USS_Arcata_(1903). I apologize, I didn't realize that violates Wikipedia rules. I arrived at the non-existent page through a disambiguation link for USS_Arcata. Is it possible for you to post the content of that page in my Talk, or email it to me? I took notes directly in that page and don't have the article dates etc. Roket (talk) 13:55, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Blocked IP abusing talk page

Hello, sorry to bother you. IP 82.40.130.75 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), who is currently blocked, is repeatedly abusing their talk page [12], [13]. Can you perhaps take a look? --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Margaret G. Hays

Hi. I'm actually trying to turn the Margaret G. Hays article into its own article instead of having it redirect to her sister's page. I had to stop my edits due to internet issues, but when I went back to work on it, it had be redirected. What do I need to do to get it to not be reverted again? Thanks. Sometimes the end is only the beginning... (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Carlo U. Quinterio moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Carlo U. Quinterio, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:22, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Syndromes

My only involvement with that page was moving it to a properly-capitalized name. Not involved, sorry DS (talk) 01:20, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

AFD close

Hi. Could you close this one please? Thanks. I enjoyed the COVID talk page guidelines. I put on a mask and gloves as soon as I saw them. --- Possibly (talk) 01:29, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

LOL! I forgot I had posted that. Borrowed from someone else's user talk page. I'll close that AFD. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Urgent indef block

It appears they didn’t get the message the first time now they are back with more vandalism and attack pages. Celestina007 (talk) 23:23, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Celestina007,

Right now, I'm looking over their page creations and will block if I think it's necessary. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

It requires courage to make the right judgement call and kudos to you for doing the needful. The attack page they created was what drew my attention to them before I discovered you had previously blocked them for vandalism. Celestina007 (talk) 23:39, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I came across the page tagged for vandalism and when I looked into it, I found that I had already blocked them once for the same type of thing. Only this time, it was worse because they published bad articles instead of bad drafts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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How can i add templates

How can i add templates

You can find lots of help at the Teahouse. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia Unassessed-Class vital articles in Biology

Hi Liz

Please undelete Category:Wikipedia Unassessed-Class vital articles in Biology ... and to avoid further deletion, please tag it as a {{Possibly empty category}}.

Thanks. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:17, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Request Patrice Robitaille at Articles for deletion

Hi Liz, yesterday I put the proposed for deletion at the article Patrice Robitaille and 24 hours later it was removed. I never got my rationale rejected because it was already removed. Look at the Patrice Robitaille article it has no citation sources in the article. First could you review the article Patrice Robitaille if it doesn't have citation sources in the article, could you request the article Patrice Robitaille at the Articles for deletion to be nominated for deletion, it was already de-prod an it still has no citation sources. I hope you will accept my request. Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:6474:18A5:C80:2AD4 (talk) 02:15, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, 2001:569:74D2:A800:6474:18A5:C80:2AD4,

I can see that you PROD'd Patrice Robitaille, is there a reason you won't nominate it for an AFD yourself? I think you are a better advocate for your point of view than I would be. I don't make a lot of nominations at AFD myself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

To be fair, it actually isn't possible for anonymous IPs to nominate pages for AFD themselves, because they don't have the ability to create new pages — so they can add the template to an article, but then can't actually create the AFD page to list it anywhere for an actual discussion, so all they can really do is either PROD or solicit named editors to do their desired dirty work for them. That said, Patrice Robitaille has both a stronger notability claim and better sources for it than the article was using, so I've made some improvements to the article — it could still use more, certainly, but even his French article isn't in a very good state at the moment either, and at the very least I've done enough that the IP's concerns should now be moot. Bearcat (talk) 03:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah, my unfamiliarity with AFD becomes visible. I've only made a few nominations that I thought were a slam dunk. Thank you for your help, Bearcat. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

TY

Hey Liz, how ya doin'? Just wanted to say thank you for the G8(?). Guess I missed one. ... well, not "guess" really, more like "obviously". :-). Hope you and yours are doing well. Cheers. — Ched (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

— Ched! I'm okay, better now that it's springtime. I'm back to editing more, like my beginning years. I seem to have more free time the past few months, I wonder why. ;-) Glad to still see some familiar names here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:47, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Re: Perma-Zyme Request for Recovery

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Thank you for working with the Perma-Zyme page in Wikipedia. We have been working to make edits to the page to make it better and wanted to submit the new version but see that it has been deleted. Is there any way that you can recover it so we can submit the new version? Thank you in advance for your help!

First, who is "we"? Accounts must represent individual editors, not groups or companies. Also, if you are a paid editor or if you are editing Wikipedia as part of your job, you must disclose your conflict-of-interest (please see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure). This is not optional, this is mandatory. Additionally, can you provide a link to the deleted article?

Finally, please sign your talk page messages with four tildes (~~~~) so that your comment is signed with your username and the time & date it was posted. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

RevDel Request

Thank you for deleting the attack page that used a homophobic slur against someone. Can you please revision delete the following revisions as it is grossly offensive (dehumanisation): first revision to second revision. Note, for the first revision please delete the edit summary as well. Thanks. Train of Knowledge (Talk) 04:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, I forgot to mention to delete the person's username from the edits as well (for both edits obviously) as it is borderline attacking someone. Train of Knowledge (Talk) 05:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I think it is taken care of, Train of Knowledge. Let me know if there is something I missed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Funny

	April Fools User Page
	LOL, nice touch with your user page! Toad62 14:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

In a weird way though it looks cool! I'm going to try it out myself! Toad62 15:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I borrowed it from another editor so I can't take credit for it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Well still, that's hilarious! Toad62 23:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

No evidence provided

Regarding.... Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/COVID-19 there is no evidence provided for a consensus regarding the "ban" claim. [14], [15]. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

There may not be a consensus but here is a precedence for deleting COVID-19 joke pages. Are you actually asking for it to be restored for four more hours before it will be deleted again? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't matter the topic.... what bothers me is a lack of consensus and communication. If it's not allowed then it should be clearly stated rather than go through this every year. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Anyways I am going to add it to WP:FOOLR then with links to the CSDs. No use repeating the same thing and expecting different results... - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if it's not written down. It's a matter of taste, just like we wouldn't have joke pages about Nazis, war, prison, the Japanese tsunami, hate crimes, AIDS or racial violence. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

• When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
• Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

• A community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure is open until April 25.

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Bixton

Hi Liz, I was wondering if I could see what the Bixton page looked like before speedy deletion? When I have looked, it seems to be a valid surname page/dab, an index of articles MOS:DABMENTIONing people with this surname. All the best, Boleyn (talk) 09:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done, Boleyn. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Category:Templates for merging

Hi! Am I missing something, but why did you tag Category:Templates for merging for speedy deletion? Has the specific TfM use case been deprecated or something? Also pinging UnitedStatesian who tagged it similarly earlier. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 21:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Hellknowz,

With a few exceptions, empty categories are tagged for deletion, although they sit for 7 days before deletion in case they were emptied out-of-process or a mistake has happened. It is not uncommon for a category to be temporarily empty and then the tag is removed. If you believe that this category should be retained, even if it is empty, you can tag it {{emptycat}} and that will mean that it doesn't show up on our daily lists of empty categories. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

er, hahah

seems fine, not sure where all the indonesian tallest buildings went - maybe the skyscraper enthusiasm moved it all sidways - please feel free to remove whatever, and thanks.. JarrahTree 13:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay, JarrahTree, I will have to go back into my contributions & logs to see what page you are talking about. But glad I have your blessing! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:26, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

UNDELETING Nuhu Muzaata Batte

Hello Comrade Liz, i am kindly requesting that you undelete Nuhu Muzaata Batte, it had been recommended and tagged for deleting citing copyright infringement which i had immediately corrected and cleaned. I therefore Kindly request that you undelete.Thank you very much. Ibitukirire (talk) 21:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Ibitukirire,

Since there were questions about the content, I have restored this page, moved it into Draft space and submitted it to Articles for Creation for review. You can still work on the page and can find it at Draft:Nuhu Muzaata Batte. Please do not move it to the main space of the project without being reviewed or it is likely to be deleted again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much @ Liz, but I will not make any edits on that draft, I know other people will do so and modify it further. This is because I have realised my edits are being mistaken by some editors non disclosed paid edits when I reality I do not have any penny received nor in any way connected to the subjects. I have already been warned by NJD-DE that I will be blocked from further editing given the nature of my edits, hence the my decision to first hold on, observe and learn before any serious edits. Thank you very much Ibitukirire (talk) 22:18, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello admin, I was trying to create a new page for deceased Nuhu Muzaata Batte and realised it had earlier been created and deleted. However, you restored it and draftfied it at Draft:Nuhu Muzaata Batte but the draft is nowhere to be seen, Is there any posibility of you restoring this draft so that i procceed with edits on the same? Ugmatrix (talk) 09:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)