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Visual arts
- Irony of Negro Policeman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:N. There are many reliable sources that mention the painting, but they lack significant coverage. Several of the sources currently in the article don't mention the painting at all, but are just used for general info about the painter, Jean-Michel Basquiat. The ones that do mention it only do so with one or two sentences, or, in one case, is a press release. Some of them looked to me like clear indications of notability at a first glance, such as NPR's "Jean-Michel Basquiat Painting Sells For Record $110.5 Million", but at a closer look, it turns out it is about a different painting.
I searched a bit and mostly found more of the same: reliable sources that only mention the painting in passing - confirming its existence, but not notability - and a few self-published, unreliable sources with analysis. The best I found was this, which contains a couple of paragraphs about Irony of Negro Policeman. I'm unfamiliar with the publication, Swamp, and can't tell if it's a reliable source or not. Nevertheless, if that is the only source that maybe contributes to notability, it's too little.
It seems like this was created some time ago as part of an effort to give as many Basquiat paintings as possible their own articles. I'm sure quite a few of them indeed are notable, but this one and potentially others don't seem to be. Uriahheep228 (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Uriahheep228 (talk) 16:56, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Police-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - I've added some sources, but a search of the painting in g-books and g-scholar reveals a lot of mentions as well as a decent amount of in-depth discussion. This and this each have several paragraphs analyzing this particular piece. this describes the piece as one of his most well-known works, which seems to be supported by the fact that it's singled out in several newspaper reviews about gallery exhibits. Zzz plant (talk) 17:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- The first of those sources has almost two paragraphs. The second has about one and a half. The third is behind paywall, so I can't tell. It's still pretty weak, but if there are more sources with a similar amount of coverage they could build up to notability, at least if it's not the same information that is repeated. I also got a lot of search hits about gallery exhibits etc, but they lack significant coverage. They just mention that it was part of an exhibition. Uriahheep228 (talk) 18:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I take the point about us not wanting separate articles about too many individual paintings but the politically charged subject matter makes it plausible that this is significant enough for an article. The Books and Scholar searches show that sources are covering it as more than just an item on a list of works. They are talking about it individually, about what it means as a statement and as an artwork. I don't think we can delete this. A merge to Jean-Michel Basquiat could be arguable but I think there is potential for this to be its own article. --DanielRigal (talk) 19:25, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Zzz plant. There isn't much unambiguous SIGCOV, but there are so many sources that provide ~1-2 paragraphs of analysis that I think they togther add up to a GNG pass (here are a couple more: [1] [2]). This journal article is the strongest source I could find. MCE89 (talk) 04:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nick D. Kim (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The lack of independent sourcing to establish notability is still an issue since the 2009 discussion. Sources are still not present to establish his notability.
Since that discussion, he has been mentioned in many books, but those are passing mentions crediting him for the pictures used in them. Roast (talk) 07:05, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Artists, and Environment. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete The single source referenced in the article is not an independent source as it is written by the subject. The claim of notability in the article is ‘best fan artwork’ from a fan convention, which is not a notable award that would be considered as "won significant critical attention" or any other part of WP:ARTIST. My search for other possible significant coverage in independent reliable sources turned up nothing. I found instead a self-published book and wikipedia copies. Asparagusstar (talk) 19:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. His citation count is solid but falls short of WP:NPROF#C1 for me, and I don't see any indication that he passes any of the other NPROF criteria. I unfortunately couldn't find any independent coverage that would indicate that he is notable as a cartoonist. MCE89 (talk) 12:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per the ascertained judgement of the notability of the subject as a cartoonist reached in the 2009 deletion attempt. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:41, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- As I am sure you know, notability standards have changed a lot since 2009. Do you have any sources to demonstrate his notability as a cartoonist? No usable sources at all were presented in the 2009 discussion. MCE89 (talk) 09:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep while generally an h-index of 27 is not quite enough to pass the bar of NPROF by itself, combined with other activities it usually is based on discussions in the past. In this I would argue that the comic activity is substantial enough to confer notability. --hroest 17:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Cult Critic Review Aggregator (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotion for non notable publication. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Noting WP:NEWSORGINDIA, refbombed to PR rehashes, dead, and primary sources. Even most of the PR rehashes are for other things and do not even verify content here. Part of a promotion platform with the likes of Tagore International Film Festival, World Film Carnival Singapore, Luis Bunuel Memorial Awards, Cult Critic Movie Awards, Calcutta International Cult Films Festival and Virgin Spring Cinefest. Buy an award, earn a review on Cult Critic. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Music, Visual arts, Entertainment, Games, Technology, Computing, Internet, and West Bengal. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:49, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: using this revision for source numners.
Sources [1], [2], [7], and [13] make brief insignificant mention of subject (simply mention that Cult Critic gave movie awards at a film festival). Similarly source [9] makes brief mention as part of a listicle article and so doesn’t give notability.
Sources [3], [6], [10], [11], and [12] are simply reviews or lists of reviews/rewards. This means they are not independent and do not give notability.
Sources [4], [5], [8], and [13] all were inaccessible to me and so I can’t comment on them.
My own attempt at WP:BEFORE using google news and a standard google search did not reveal sources that could convey notability. However, it did reveal that Cult Critic has ran a couple of film festivals/awards cerimonies. If someone can convince me that this conveys notability I may be inclined to change my opinion (and thus !vote). Emily.Owl ( she/her • talk) 20:01, 15 July 2025 (UTC)- With the film festival/award, it's somewhat a case of "who is reporting and in what context". It's not ideal, but an argument could be made for notability if the award results were reprinted by multiple notable outlets. This specifically refers to reprints like this, where a major outlet reprints the list. The gist behind this is that major outlets like say, Variety or Locus are going to be selective in what award results they reprint, so they're not going to reprint some random film festival or award. For example, Dead Meat is a notable YouTube channel and has a pretty well received awards ceremony, but few outlets reprint the results because even with the channel's substantial following they just can't justify it. (Even Bloody Disgusting only reported on the awards once.) Of note, what wouldn't count towards this would be local papers writing about how their local person won an award. The focus there isn't really the award and local coverage of that nature is typically seen as a weak source at best.
- With that in mind, I took a look for the award/festival in specific and didn't find anything that would establish that the award is notable. No opinion on the aggregator as of yet, but the site's award/festival cannot help in establishing notability. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 13:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: A search didn't really take long, as there is really nothing out there. What coverage exists is pretty light and not enough on its own to establish notability. I'm aware that the site is based out of India and that Google doesn't always properly search Indian sources, but there's not really anything to help argue that more/better sourcing exists. If anyone can find anything, I'm open to changing my argument. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 13:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Homeless Flag (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Deleted in 2023 via unanimous AfD (WP:Articles for deletion/Homeless International Flag). I cannot find any WP:SIGCOV in independent sources to back up claims of this flag being since adopted outside of this one particular non-profit or the person associated with it. I have decent access to Swedish newspaper archives and cannot find any mentions. Also worth noting that author has declared COI. Zzz plant (talk) 17:31, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Zero coverage in Gnews. Gsearch has an Instagram page and an Etsy link to buy, but that's hardly proof of notability. If nothing has turned up since the last AfD, there probably isn't anything... Article is now sourced to orange or red links, so nothing notable either. Oaktree b (talk) 17:48, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Homeless Flag meets WP:GNG through independent, reliably-sourced coverage:
- - National broadcaster TV4 – “Kavian var hemlös – nu lägger han all kraft på att hjälpa andra” (3 Dec 2021): at 07:00 – 07:30, the host zooms in on the flag and explains its public display while Ferdowsi adds that “people see the Flag and Hemlösa.se every morning".
- - Daily newspaper Dagen – “Premiär för melodifestival för hemlösa” (4 Feb 2015): reports an event where the flag served as the official emblem, quoting politicians and describing its symbolism.
- - The emblem is twice trademark-registered with the EUIPO, confirming its distinctive, legally protected status.
- These sources provide significant coverage, not mere passing mentions, in broadcast and print media wholly independent of the subject, and demonstrate real-world adoption beyond a single NGO. In line with WP:SYMBOLS a unique flag with documented media attention, public use and formal recognition is prima facie notable. The article should therefore be improved, not deleted. Csamu88 (talk) 23:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with the previous commentor's rationale. This article does seem to meet the WP:GNG guidelines and has been used widely for notable events pertaining to the topic. I definitely believe this article should be significantly improved but I think that it is too notable for deletion. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 23:42, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Reply - Trademark has no bearing on notability, and the above characterization of TV4 source is a stretch - it's briefly visible and briefly discussed on a talk show segment. Even if they gave more in-depth coverage, it's shown by Kavian Ferdowsi (the person who designed the flag) during an interview, so it's a primary source - which can't be used to support GNG. Dagen shows only that the organization associated with the flag uses it at an event they're organizing. I couldn't find any RS suggesting that anyone aside from Hemlösa or Kavian Ferdowsi has adopted this flag (or even paid much attention to it). Zzz plant (talk) 00:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 18:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No apparent further coverage since the last AFD two years ago. The article's current sources are a mix of WP:PRIMARY, WP:SPS, and WP:TRIVIAL coverage. Appearing in a photo on TV for 30 seconds is not enough for WP:GNG. Astaire (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Visual arts - Proposed deletions
- Dallas Contemporary (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)