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Template/category to a match-case restriction to link suggestions linking to a page

I'm looking for something I can add to pages like The C Programming Language to prevent them from showing up when doing a suggested link edit especially because in the case of things like The C Programming Language, it prevents the article that actually should be suggested which is C (programming language). Apersoma (talk) 15:20, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

@Apersoma: I don't think that is possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Apersoma there's a template or category or something that turns it off; I'll see if I can find it again. Mathglot (talk) 05:24, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Apersoma (talk) 16:54, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Has it not been found yet? Simanelix (talk) 21:38, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

@Apersoma@Mathglot@Simanelix: maybe Mathglot was thinking about Special:CommunityConfiguration/GrowthSuggestedEdits which has an Add links between articles section. It seems we can exclude articles within a certain category or template from getting added to the task, but not exclude suggestions to specific articles generally. Is it a massive problem or can we weather the storm? Commander Keane (talk) 11:10, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Diacritics in DEFAULTSORT

Hello, I'd like to know if there is any unambiguous guideline regarding the use of diacritics in {{DEFAULTSORT}}. According to WP:SORTKEY, "In English Wikipedia, sort order merges (ignores) case and diacritics". I interpret this to mean that the use of diacritics doesn't matter, so if a name includes them, it would be preferable to retain them in the DEFAULTSORT as well. However, User:Qaswa disagreed on my talk page, and User:Ecourter removed them on another page, in this edit. I just want to know so I can follow the correct approach! Regards, Yacàwotçã (talk) 01:53, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Yacàwotçã, I'd interpret In English Wikipedia, sort order merges (ignores) case and diacritics to mean that the use of diacritics doesn't matter, so as an example for the article Jindřich Štreit the choice between {{DEFAULTSORT|Štreit, Jindřich}} or {{DEFAULTSORT|Streit, Jindrich}} would have no effect. This is, of course, what you said to Qaswa. But imaginably WP:SORTKEY is misleading or even inaccurate. What I can say is that years ago, when I preserved diacritics for use in defaultsort, I sometimes noticed that other editors would then remove the diacritics; whereas in recent years, when I haven't preserved them for defaultsort, I haven't noticed other editors restoring them. -- Hoary (talk) 01:22, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

I can provide the CheckWiki error description for DEFAULTSORT with special characters:

Don't use special letters in the DEFAULTSORT. In most cases, diacritics should generally be stripped See, e.g.:

à, ä, ã, æ, ă → a

ö → o, ü → u, ß → ss

in svwiki and fiwiki, ÅÄÖåäö are allowed

in cswiki, čďěňřšťžČĎŇŘŠŤŽ are allowed

in dawiki and nowiki, ÆØÅæøå are allowed

See Categorization#Sort keys and Namesort, for more details.

A majority of these errors are automatically fixed in WP:CLEANER and other tools. If a character can't be replaced (for example: 10¢ a Dance), WPCleaner doesn't auto-fix. For what it's worth, I'm only focusing on the high-priority errors for CheckWiki; the main problem in the edit linked were ref tags without a match. Ecourter (talk) 01:45, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

In short: Any diacritics in DEFAULTSORT are incorrect in the English Wikipedia, and that's been the case for years. Qaswa (talk) 14:50, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Ecourter, is "æ" a diacritic? Why isn't it supposed to be replaced with "ae"? And most importantly who wrote this and why does WP:SORTKEY appear to ignore it? Yacàwotçã (talk) 15:30, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

"æ" is a ligature. In the template "R from ligature" you can find some answers. Qaswa (talk) 17:06, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

See [1] and WP:CWERRORS Ecourter (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Wait, what ? Why are we removing diacritics when the category listing uses unicode based diacritic and case folding when sorting ? I can kinda see why we did this in the PAST, when all wikis used latin1 and later canonical unicode sorting, but we have had language specific unicode sorting on category listings for about 10 years now, so…. which problem is this rule solving ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:58, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@TheDJ exactly, it seems to me like something rather archaic, inherited from a time when diacritics could still cause problems. In fact, the guideline doesn't mention it, only a questionable script documentation does, and I've seen other somewhat sloppy scripts making similar mistakes. Even AWB, to which I have access, sometimes makes mistakes, that's why it's supposed to be a human controlling it. Yacàwotçã (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

How do you edit a page closed to editing that is hate speech, totally biased and founded on lies?

How do you edit a page closed to editing that is hate speech, totally biased and founded on lies? ~2025-32460-19 (talk) 04:04, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Typically on the talk page of an article, you can make an edit request. However it's best to be precise in what you believe needs to be changed, and provide a reliable source supporting the change. – {{u|hekatlys}} ^WOOF 04:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous user. Hekatlys is right in general, but note that if the article falls within any of the areas listed as Contentious topics, then anonymous editors (and new accounts) are not permitted even to post requests on the article's talk page. ColinFine (talk) 13:46, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

That is not at all true. Even the extended-confirmed restriction (which only applies to a handful of contentious topics) says that Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:15, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

It would be easier for us to help you if instead of asking a general question, you actually got to the meat and potatoes of what you are actually talking about.

Wikipedia doesn't claim to be free of bias, as all sources of information have biases. Sources are presented to readers so they csn evaluate and judge them for themselves when determining what they think about what they read. You may read an article and disagree with everything presented. If the sources in an article are not being accurately summarized, please detail the errors on the article talk page. If the sources are being accurately summarized, but are in error, you will need to take that up with the sources directly and get them to issue corrections, or provide more current sources with what you deem more accurate information.

If sources in an article are so biased that they make things up out of whole cloth with no basis, that is a matter for the reliable sources noticeboard.

Some contentious topics(not all) have restrictions on editing by users with non-temporary or new accounts, meaning you cannnot contribute to them unless you register a username and it is 30 days old with 500 edits. 331dot (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

I'd also suggest that you read WP:TRUTH. 331dot (talk) 13:59, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

My money is that the article they're complaining about is under a 500/30 restriction (specifically, that of the PIA area). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 03:47, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

that or some indian caste stuff that people tend to get heated over mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:27, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

How do I deal with temporary accounts?

Hi! I am back after a brief (4 year) semi-retirement. While I was gone the way I see IP vandals changed. I like the changes (more privacy is good) but I can't do a few things I used to do, like doing my own informal sockpuppet investigations before making a report.

Here are a couple of temporary accounts that show what I am talking about:[2][3]

This is obviously the Dave Plummer Troll who has been vandalizing the Dave Plummer page for years. (I have no connection with Plummer other than having read his book on Autism). Previously, I would look at the IP Addresses, see that they came from the same geographical area and the same handful of ISPs that serve that area, and tweak my vandalism reports with that knowledge. Now I can't tell.

(To any admin reading this: please consider removing some or all of the edits from these two temporary accounts from the page history after this discussion ends. One of the things the Dave Plummer Troll likes to do is to go on Twitter, FaceBook, and YouTube and post links to his deleted Wikipedia posts. "I know you suffer from severe mental illness and attack everyone that has no tolerance for your obnoxious replies and existence" is a personal attack and "writing down history about david as a criminal that defrauded money out of people isn't an attack. it's facts... he is a criminal, he ran scams defrauding innocent people" is a BLP violation.)

Would it be appropriate to request WP:TAIV? I don't do a lot of sockpuppet work but I do some. I am assuming from "There are currently 261 users with temporary account IP viewer rights" that simply being a trusted user isn't enough and that the answer to that is no.

I can live without being able to do my own informal sockpuppet investigations before making a report, but there were a bunch of cases where I determined that I didn't have enough evidence and didn't make the report. Now I will have to make the report in cases where previously I wouldn't. Like I said, the minor inconvenience is well worth it to increase user privacy, but I am wondering if maybe I am missing something and there is a better way. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

If you don't want TAIPV, there is the option of asking an editor who has that permission to do a check before going through with an SPI. I believe the requirements to getting it, from what I have seen at PERM and the wording at WP:TAIVGRANT, is to be both fairly trusted and have a demonstrated need for it. Your sockpuppet work would likely fit the latter. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 04:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

TAIV, while it has a clear set of restrictions and associated guidance, isn't hard to acquire, from my experience. I applied and was granted access. This was my request (and it's honest and unembellished): [4]

Obviously a good faith accounting of ones interest in the access goes a long way. I think the small number of users is more a reflection of how few editors delve into combatting socks and vandals on any level. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 04:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

The small number could also just be due to how new it is. The oldest request for the permission is this one on August 2nd. TAs themselves only started appearing on November 4th. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 05:04, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Per the advice above, I will apply for it. I see nothing that says it is only for people who need it all of the time and not for people who need it occasionally. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:34, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Potential as an AFC reviewer

Hey, I wanted to try and help with the Article for Creation submission process, and I'm familiar with how to propose for AFC reviewer rights. However, despite my experience, I don't think I feel competent enough to regularly review drafts, yet I still feel like I'd like to at least try reviewing some proposals. Part of me feels like I might make a mistake, but do you guys think I should try the reviewing process? — Alex26337 ^(talk) 23:29, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Asilvering You have experience with AfC, maybe you'd be able to help Alex? Polygnotus (talk) 23:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

@Alex26337, my advice would be that you get more experience at WP:AFD before applying to be a reviewer. We need to see some evidence of notability guidelines, which doesn't have to come via AFD, but that's both the best training for it and the easiest way to demonstrate it. And AFD is always sorely in need of competent, careful participants. -- asilvering (talk) 23:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

@Alex26337, another option if you're not really fond of AfD (like me) is to hang out at the WP:AFCHD for a while. I recently got reviewer rights because I've spent most of my time here first hanging out at the helpdesk and then, once I was confident, beginning to answer questions and help informally assess drafts. The helpdesk gets all sorts of queries, from very easy to very complicated, and watching experienced reviewers respond is extremely useful. It also means you get to look at a wide variety of drafts, from the obvious COIs to the AI tells to the clearly didn't read any instructions to the just needs a tweak here and there. Although I am still very new to actual reviewing, if you'd like I'd be happy to chat to you about drafts and discuss what you would do with certain drafts. Meadowlark (talk) 00:25, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Using Google Earth historic satellite imagery as a reference

I am having difficulty finding any documentation for the closure of a runway. The FAA doesn't archive Chart Supplements or Airport Diagrams and no news sources exist talking about the closure. I have found that the runway was closed sometime between 2015 and 2017 based on Google Earth satellite images, but that's as much as I can narrow it down. Without those images the most it can be narrowed down is between 2014 and 2020. Is it okay to use Google Earth as a reference in this manner? I have used Google Maps as a reference before, but never Google Earth. Would I just use cite web for this if it is acceptable? ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 00:02, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@Mccunicano Hello! Which runway on which airport are we talking about? Polygnotus (talk) 00:14, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Using_maps_as_sources Polygnotus (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@Polygnotus: That's quite the lengthy RFC there. I am going to do a big update on the article Macon Downtown Airport. Runway 10-28 is still in use but the cross runway was closed in either late 2016 or early 2017. Since a regrading project happened on 10-28 last year, the former runway only exists as an unmarked taxiway to a hangar used by the Georgia Forestry Commission and has otherwise either been abandoned or obliterated. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 02:08, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

You could probably pave most of the runway with that RfC if you printed it. Polygnotus (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@Mccunicano: if you do use Google Earth I would suggest attaching a note to the citation explaining your methodology. I don't know the best syntax to achieve that. I guess using Google Earth like this is a placeholder until a reliable source is eventually found. However, ultimately, if it didn't get reported anywhere, is it really up to Wikipedia to mention it? Commander Keane (talk) 12:21, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

{{efn}} Polygnotus (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Correction

Hello, I am professor Emanuel Levy. I need help in revising your entry of my life ad career. I've been getting hostile letters (during the Gaza War) due to the mentioning that I was born in Israel. In trying ti eliminate that information, we (with my assistant) accidentally deleted my photo and date of birth. Please restore. M<any thanks. ~2025-32664-20 (talk) 14:50, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I fixed the infobox for you. The image, File:Emanuel Levty.jpg, will soon be renamed (Levty => Levy). Polygnotus (talk) 15:14, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't know how hostile these letters are, but it may be a good idea to report them to your local police. Polygnotus (talk) 15:21, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

User Ziv thinks the photo used may be a copyright violation. Please see WP:PHOTO. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 15:29, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Polygnotus: Yes is copied from Rotten Tomatoes. Mister Levy? Do you have a image that we can upload to Commons? Regards, זיו「Ziv」 • For love letters and other notes 15:44, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Wikiquote Not updated

Wikiquote is not updated to today,Tuesday Nov 11th? ~2025-32846-29 (talk) 17:36, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I would recommend asking over at the wikiquote village pump, perhaps with some examples. Polygnotus (talk) 17:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes, ALWAYS give an example of an issue. Maybe we could have answered it already but I have no idea what you actually refer to. wikiquote:Main Page says "Tuesday, November 11, 2025" for me, but your post might be about numerous other things. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:03, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Déjà vu. —Cryptic 18:18, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I had written this and got an edit conflict: Maybe you are the same poster as in Wikipedia:Help desk/Archive 74#Wikiquote not updating? but that doesn't help. I still have no clue what it's about. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:23, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Google Drive urls in references

Do we have a policy or guideline on linking to documents hosted on Google Drive (drive.google.com) in article references? It worries me from a basic information security point of view, and there may be other issues - but I imagine this has already been discussed and resolved one way or the other. I just can't find where. NebY (talk) 18:37, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

How is it different than linking to google books, google search, a linkedin profile, an X profile etc ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:50, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Very different, IMHO. A Google Books URL is a document that Google has digitised, categorised, and is publicly searchable. A Google Drive is just some random persons' personal filestore. Could be anything.

I would suggest that most Google Drive URLs would fail the published requirement for sources, so should be removed. qcne (talk) 19:39, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Well, we don't know what sort of thing we're getting when we click such a link - it could be a plain pdf, a document or spreadsheet with embedded macros, or an image, or I think an executable, yet we're saying to readers that they can click on it to verify our content. There's no indication of who controls the Google account, which is in one sense who is publishing the file (an RS publisher, the editor, who?). Can they change it leaving the url working? I don't know Google Drive urls well enough to say. I'm guessing the document or whatever isn't archivable by archive.org or suchlike, but I might be wrong. There may well be other issues; that's why I was rather hoping to find prior discussion.

If it helps, here's a current example. NebY (talk) 19:05, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Not sure if there's previous discussions, but I would personally treat it as unreliable and completely remove it. – {{u|hekatlys}} ^WOOF 19:01, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

There are several previous discussions in the WP:RSPS archive. See this list. Personally, I would ban all such uses. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:15, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

.... However, we have over 5,700 of them Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:18, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

One at a time, I suppose. I may have a deeper look at this later when I have time, but I cannot see any logical reason to keep them in-use on Wikipedia. – {{u|hekatlys}} ^WOOF 18:25, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

In the example above the Google Drive pdf is mirrored from/at lucyletbyinnocence.com and indeed available at archive.org. When removing Google Drive URLs, but please put in some work to resolve them rather than just guessing and blindly removing. Maybe someone downloaded the file to their personal Google Drive, used the resource and linked to their copy rather than the official one. Help them, and Wikipedia's readers, out by fixing it. Banning all use may be problematic if someone links to reliable source that happens to be on a Google Drive when they could have linked to a reliable version. Again, it can be fixed with effort. Commander Keane (talk) 05:28, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Michael D. Turnbull, I'm now kicking myself I didn't find those discussions. I must read through them; I'm a little surprised they didn't result in any addition to WP:RSP. And thanks to all for youur responses, helping me see it more clearly. NebY (talk) 12:59, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

@NebY They did result in being added to the script for unnreliable sources which many long-term editors use. Hence the URL link in your Expert Panel report citation is pink when I view it here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks again! Installed and working, hope it doesn't find so many I go mad. NebY (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I hate to trying to fix my problem with Twinkle

Created User:Vitorperrut555/Welcome temp, and instead with welcome, shows {{subst:}}.

I trying to fix via Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences, and don't working. VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 18:49, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

You might have more luck asking at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:34, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

copyright question

hey. if full text of a book is available on Wikisource, it means that copyright rules (e.g. limit on quotes from it, etc.) doesn't need to be followed; because its full text's on Wikisource, right? Vastmajority20025 (talk) 19:39, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Vastmajority20025, I wouldn't rely on it - there are copyright violating images on Commons, and copyright violating text here even though we have one of the largest communities and probably the best chance at catching and removing it. There's a lot of information at WP:PD that will help you assess the book in question, or you could give the title, authors/editors and publishing date here and we might be able to help. Meadowlark (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

thank you @Meadowlark Vastmajority20025 (talk) 04:17, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

@Vastmajority20025: The copyright status of each document on Wikisource is supposed to be documented there, usually on the talk page of that document. If it is not there, then ask on Wikisource and get it documented. Once you you know it's OK over there, you can use it, including extensive quotes, here on Wikipedia, but you must still attribute it. Failure to attribute is WP:plagiarism, which is forbidden here. -Arch dude (talk) 20:49, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Cash donations

I would like to support Wikipedia with a cash donation but I am very Leary of a scam and don’t want my credit card compromised. How can I be assured this site is legitimate ? Thank you. Leo C. ~2025-32941-78 (talk) 20:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-32941-78. Please see https://donate.wikimedia.org/ which is the legitimate place to donate to Wikipedia. Otherwise, please follow your usual internet safety precautions. qcne (talk) 20:23, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-32941-78 I would also suggest you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia finances. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Probably wouldn't hurt to read this regarding the rather mild fact that the foundation needs no donations. The article isn't updated any longer, but the table and graph are. I stopped giving years ago. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 06:53, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Ha - I hadn't looked at the link user Shantavira provided, which shows the same data, though it hasn't been updated with 2023/2024 data. However, the narrative at the link I provided is worth reading too. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 06:56, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Conflict between official and secondary sources

In what situations can information from official sources be questioned based on secondary sources? And can a claim from a secondary source be questioned if it is presented as a laconic statement without any explanation or source? Especially when we also have secondary sources that directly quote official ones. The fact is that Resident Evil has approximately 11 major games, of which the developers officially consider only nine numbered games to be the main series. This contradicts the widespread fan community belief that all 11 are the main series. Of course, this is cited without any nuance by a number of reputable secondary sources (some of which still cite the official press release stating there are nine games), so several users insist we must take this into account, even questioning the official numbering of some games, even though official sources outright ignore it. Their argument is mainly based on the fact that secondary sources supposedly have the same or even greater power than primary official ones, so if they, for whatever reason, categorize games differently than the creators themselves, then it has the same power as they. I have a strong feeling that this is already bordering on a conflict of interest and playing with the rules, but I am concerned that relatively many people share this and I do not want to draw too harsh conclusions about bad faith. Solaire the knight (talk) 21:10, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

@Solaire the knight I haven't investigated this particular issue but there is general advice in the essay WP:WSAW. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:08, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I suggested, as a compromise, describing the nuances separately, but other users believe that the opinion of a secondary source is by default equal to or even higher than the opinion of a primary source, even if we are talking about an official source and the opinion of a journalist. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:20, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

@Solaire the knight, this seems to be a content dispute and all of the relevant advice and links I was going to provide have been already been patiently mentioned on the talk page. I was going to suggest Wikipedia:Third opinion, but it seems it is you versus versus many others. If you are feeling frustration I would recommend walking away for a year and coming back, maybe fresh sources will be uncovered by then, or a more diverse group of editors will exist. Ultimately, when books are written about the subject we will use those.

I am not sure why you are discounting the opinion of journalists. As an example: a primary source, official as you say, would be Donald Trump's social media feed. A secondary source would be the Washington Post. Yes secondary sources are of higher value than official ones. Official sources will push agendas, like trying to sell more games and maintain reputation. Commander Keane (talk) 04:50, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Because none of these journalists were involved with the development of these games or the brands associated with them at all. Their opinions strangely echo common fan sentiment, and none of the links provide any explanation or source for their take. Moreover, some of them also have no problem quoting press releases from official sources, showing that they have no position at all. As I've said many times, I'm not against describing this as a separate nuance. Which it is. But a group of users persistently tries to give the same weight to an unofficial, fan-made assertion, supported without explanation by a number of sources, as to the official categorization of the creators. I understand what you're getting at, but I doubt we can compare a developer who says, "There are only nine main games in my series," and journalists who question this based on fan opinion, with a politician who says, for example, "UFOs exist," and journalists who refute it. Also, if I remember correctly, the "one against many" rule warns against ignoring potential instances of common misconceptions or attempts to substitute numbers for consensus. Solaire the knight (talk) 07:53, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Or, a more familiar example. If it becomes common among fans to say that Commander Keen is a metaphor for Pizzagate, and a number of sources support this without explanation, while the developers ignore it and don't even comment, would you address this as fact? Or would you describe it as a nuanced statement, like "a number of sources claim the game is a metaphor for Pizzagate, but the developers have never commented on it"? It's a virtually identical situation here. Fans consider two specific games to be part of the main series, and journalists repeat this as a blanket statement without explanation. Meanwhile, Capcom simply ignores it. Why can't we describe it separately with due detail instead of giving it the weight of fact? Solaire the knight (talk) 08:00, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Retargeting multiple redirects

Is there a tool that makes it easier to retarget multiple redirects, rather than manually editing them one by one? Suppose there are over 100 redirects to article A and I want to retarget 75 of them to article B. I have used WP:MASSXFD but would prefer to boldly retarget redirects that are straightforward rather than mass nominate and take up the community's time. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 01:13, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

You could potentially use one of our mass-editing tools, like WP:AWB. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:19, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

New Page Patrol discussion

Hey, so I'm not a new page patroller, but I still wanted to notify the actual patrollers in the case I see that an unreviewed article qualifies (or doesn't qualify) under its criteria. Do you know where I can talk about this (I considered the reviewer's discussion page, but it seems that's reserved for NPPs only)? — Alex26337 ^(talk) 02:43, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Alex26337, it's fine to use the discussion page. But I'm not entirely sure I understand what your goal is: if an article needs to be marked as reviewed, someone will get to it eventually (the backlog is enormous); if it needs something else, you're welcome to tag it, draftify it, nominate it for deletion, etc. even without being a reviewer. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@Extraordinary Writ: I guess what I'm saying is that I know that people won't always be there to review needed articles, and I just wanted to try and put in "patrol-like" efforts into preparing articles for a formal review, and then notify the actual patrollers of what I did, as an indirect effort to reduce the backlog, and to also make their jobs feel, or be, a little bit smoother. — Alex26337 ^(talk) 02:34, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Citation insert in visual editor not working?

Hi! I'm new to adding missing citations, so maybe this is user error. But I tried using the automatic citation generator in visual editing, and it initially created the citation just fine, but when I added it, it turned it into an entirely different citation already used on the page. I tried manually creating a citation in visual editing, but same thing. I was able to insert it in source editing, but it was a pain, and I'd rather use visual editing for citations. Really steve (talk) 03:31, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi Really steve. The feature works. If you save and link an edit then we can maybe guess what went wrong for you. You can revert your edit if you don't want to leave an article in a bad state. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter, I tried out the citation generator again today and it worked. No idea what was happening a couple days ago when I first tried it. Gremlins in my computer I suppose. Hopefully it doesn't happen again! Really steve (talk) 17:36, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

List_of_people_with_the_most_children

Hi,

At the above page I added an entry for "George Lake". Then I added a source (Jeffery). Then I added a reference to the source in the "George Lake" entry. The page shows as it should (as far as I can tell), but an error appears at the top of the page: "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page)." I've checked the source multiple times. I've checked the help page. And I've re-done the edit. I don't see what's wrong. MarshallLake (talk) 07:24, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

List of people with the most children (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

@MarshallLake: There was a stray <ref></ref> pair at the top of the page. That's easy to do by mistake, since there's a button the toolbar that inserts these tags. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:55, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

@John of Reading: Thanks. Your help is much appreciated. MarshallLake (talk) 08:29, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

@MarshallLake: See Help:Diff for how to see the changes in an edit. For your edit it is [5] which makes it easy to see the problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

You use VisualEditor. Some things are easier to fix in the source editor. You can switch to it on a pencil icon at the top right of VisualEditor. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

That's a big help. Thanks. MarshallLake (talk) 18:18, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Styling with Template:Maplink

I have added an interactive map to the infobox in Cork and Muskerry Light Railway using the maplink template, which is rendering two GeoJSON files from Commons. I tried to add styling information to the template to make each file render in a different colour, but they are both appearing in the default colour (black). The files themselves have no styling information. I am completely new to using this so any advice would be appriciated. Madfly2 (talk) 11:49, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi Madfly2. I see Davemck removed your attempt of ane additional stroke colour from the template. About stroke-color, {{maplink}} says Color code for the color used to draw the feature (for features from OSM). Your data is not from OSM so I guess that doesn't work. Before Davemck's edit I tried type1, data1, stroke-color1 which also didn't work.

As a workaround, you can colour the stroke properties in the .map files on Commons and use the |raw= parameter in the infobox. I set up a |raw= example at: User:Commander Keane/Maplink test (it uses two modified .map files: 1 & 2. Example .map colouring diff: here).

I wonder if there is a better way, perhaps to apply a property to a GeoJSON file from a mapframe? I couldn't see that in mw:Help:Extension:Kartographer. Commander Keane (talk) 04:19, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Commander Keane for your help and the example. I will do as you suggest and put the styling information in the files themselves. It does seem a bit silly to have to upload the file a second time if I want to render it two different ways in different articles, but it seems there is no other option. Madfly2 (talk) 18:57, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Symphonies

Moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment § Ray Stanton King

Polygnotus (talk) 14:11, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

New IPs

Recently I have seen contentious comments coming from a range of IPs I've never seen before. Where do "~2025-nnnnn-nn" come from? Why now? One person identified himself as a library user. More familiar are IPs with a 2600 prefix (IPv6) and four numbers delimited with full stops (IPv4). Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:26, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @SusanLesch. Have you read Wikipedia:Temporary accounts? This was a recent change to the English Wikipedia. Edits from logged-out users no longer show their IP address. qcne (talk) 15:29, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, Qcne! That page explains this perfectly. -SusanLesch (talk) 16:50, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Уточнение

не заняли больницу а взяли под свою опеку : впрочем в немецком оригинале оно так и есть ~2025-33054-18 (talk) 17:05, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Google translates this from the Russian, as:

Clarification: They didn't occupy the hospital, but rather took it under their wing: However, that's how it is in the original German.

but we don't know which article is referred to; nor even whether it is on the English or Russian Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:09, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Привет, это английская Википедия. Возможно, вам будет интереснее здесь https://ru.wikipedia.org mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:41, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Using non-derivative images

Is it permitted to upload images with non-derivative licenses (such as CC BY-ND) locally to enwiki, and thereafter place them on any article without having to downscale the quality or provide fair use rationales? It would be quite helpful, I think, as it would open a lot more images for me to use. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 17:54, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Non-derivative licenses are not free content licenses, according to definitions such as DFSG or the Free Software Foundation's standards, and cannot be used in contexts that require these freedoms, such as Wikipedia. You will have to find a fair use rationale, or forbear the use of those images. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:09, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Can such images at least be used without having to downscale the quality? ―Howard • 🌽³³ 21:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

@Howardcorn33: By following the links Wikipedia:About => Wikipedia:Free encyclopedia => "Free knowledge" I came across Open knowledge. Or follow the "free" from the Main page's tagline to read Free content.

Wikipedia aims for free content, with a very limited amount of fair use, see Wikipedia:Non-free content. Admittedly, free content is an interesting concept.

CC BY-NC can't be reused without restriction. We would only not want to not downscale the quality if we were creating a repository of non-free content. You said it would allow you to use more images, but not all re-users could then use that material. It is hard work, but free images can be made/discovered/requested and uploaded to Commons. Commander Keane (talk) 02:03, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand: I am speaking of non-derivative (ND), not non-commercial (NC). And for that matter, all people can re-use ND-licensed images with the caveat that the content of the image isn't altered. As far as I am aware, as long as we provide credit and not alter the image, ND images are permitted by their copyright holder to be used at full quality anywhere for any purpose. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 11:28, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Seeing that the English Wikipedia already accepts hosting images with heavier copyright restrictions (such as all rights reserved), I don't see why it should outright forbid ND images which wouldn't technically need to be downscaled or have a FUR. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 11:31, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Howardcorn33, yeah I misread ND for NC; neither is free. So ND images are forbidden, with the exception of fair use. I am being facetious, but if you want to set up a Wikipedia fork that uses ND content you are welcome to, that would a different project (fortunately the text in Wikipedia isn't ND so you could edit on that fork - a benefit of freedom). Your initial comment "it would open a lot more images for me to use" is telling, does that mean you wouldn't bother finding or creating free content if given the option?

About fair use content, are you saying there are cases where articles use fair use images that happen to be CC BY-ND and you want to maintain the resolution to push Wikipedia towards a high quality image repository for non-free re-users? That seems like an edge case and doesn't align with Wikipedia's freedom goals. Out of curiosity, do you have examples of those edge cases? I do understand your perspective, and I know I sound harsh. Commander Keane (talk) 12:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't intend on pushing Wikipedia towards being an image repository for non-free reusers. It is first and foremost an encyclopedia. I would just like for higher quality images to be usable on Wikipedia, as well as usable on more articles without having to add a free use rationale each time, which I believe would be beneficial for the purpose of illustrating, and thereby improving, the encyclopedia, without infringing on copyrights. As it is, the fair use rationale system is even more restrictive for images. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 12:22, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

If there is a specific non-free image that needs to be kept at a higher resolution for some reason (becomes unreadable/uninterpetable when resized, like File:Award BIOS first screen.png) then {{Non-free no reduce}} exists. -- Reconrabbit 15:43, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

In the "Wikipedia comes first" ideology, would you be okay with Getty agreeing to allow Wikipedia to any of their all rights reserved images at full resolution? Re-users only have to pay $500 (for a medium resolution downsample) files for 15 year usage. This is why reject uploaders who say their file is free for Wikipedia only. You are saying that ND is "free enough" and I agree that it is better than full copyright, but Wikipedia wants free as defined in the links above. Like I said, it is interesting, and we do suffer. Commander Keane (talk) 01:30, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Fingerprint sensor

I need fingerprint sensor lock my device ~2025-33081-09 (talk) 17:59, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

This is the Help desk for Wikipedia and we can't assist you with other issues. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:03, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello! This page is for people who need help editing wikipedia. You might have better luck with a search engine like google or duckduckgo. If you still want help from a wikipedian, then the reference desk could prove helpful! mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:47, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

WP:BIDIR - 27,000 problems for one template

Template:National Register of Historic Places has 81 links (mostly to lists by state) and is on about 27,000 mainspace pages (more or less all NRHP locations include it) (https://templatetransclusioncheck.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3ANational_Register_of_Historic_Places&complete=1) , this is by *far* the most broken template of this type in terms of non-Bidirectionality. I considered trying to use WP:AWB to fix this, but 27,000 is a bit much for that. In some states they have NHRP in County Blah-Blah for some or all states, in some cases there are replacements, but for example in my home state of Maryland, only Template:NRHP in Queen Anne's County, Maryland exists of the 24 county equivalents, I think they should all (except for the ones linked of course) be scrubbed. Ideas on where to go with this, either a Wikiproject with ideas or whether it makes sense as a bot request.Naraht (talk) 00:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Naraht: Discussion belongs at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. There are already discussions in the arhcives, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Archive 66#NRHP navigation box. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:50, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Edit was undone

Edit was undone but I have supporting evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ahypnia#c-Kline-20251113015000-November_2025 How to remedy? Thanks. Ahypnia (talk) 01:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Your source [6] does not state that "ted northe Lane in Vancouver, British Columbia was named after him, in lower case letters". It says he spelled his name that way, but that isn't the same thing. As for the broader question of how the article should spell it, I suggest you start a discussion on the article talk page. Given that many of the sources cited seem to follow the convention, you may have good grounds, though I'd add that some of the sourcing looks rather questionable per WP:RS policy. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:09, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Was there a change to timestamps?

I had either a userscript or a gadget or a preference that when I clicked a timestamp in a sig, it would open up the diff for me. Now, hovering over it I see the link for the diff in the corner of my browser, but in clicking, it gets hijacked and fills my url bar with a long anchor link, and does not open the diff link I see when hovering. For example., on todays feature article talk page, it adds #c-Galebazz-2021-08-07T18:25:00.000Z-Splitting_into_two_articles to my url, even though I see in the corner of firefox that I am hovering on the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1017469394/1037626755

Just wondering what happened during my wikibreak, and if I can go back to my old ways. I also have tons of userscripts, so if its conflicting userscripts, I'll sort it out, but I figured y'all would know if there was a MediaWiki change. Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 06:44, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@IAmChaos: The diff feature is User:Evad37/TimestampDiffs which is loaded in User:IAmChaos/common.js. It conflicts with a newer default feature which cannot be disabled as far as I can tell. If I hold down Ctrl while clicking the time stamp then the diff opens in a new tab (this is a general Firefox feature for all links). Does that work for you and is it good enough? You can change to the new tab with the mouse or Ctrl+Page Down. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:03, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Is there a mac version of control click? Both Command and Control link to the comment, and when doing option and clicking open in new tab, it opens the link to comment in new tab. Shift click opens in new window. If not that's fine, I wanted to check. Sad that the new feature can't be disabled. Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 17:03, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Update: I'm reading now: see mw:Project:Tech News/2024#Tech News: 2024-05 and phab:T302011. Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 17:08, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@IAmChaos: A mouse middle-click may open a new tab but if your method opens the link to comment then a middle-click may do the same. I'm on Windows 11. Ctrl-click is the general method to open a link in a new tab. It's not a way to select one potential link target over another. Both middle-click and Ctrl-click give the diff for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:46, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I think I'll just lose the script. Diffs would be much nicer for me than super long urls, but I'll make do with what mediawiki gives us. Thanks for the help! Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 21:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Making changes

Hi

I have been tasked with making changes on our CEO's wiki page as it has been flagged for a few things. How do I go about actioning the changes and then getting the restrictions removed? Please use laymans terms because I have never done this before. Thanks ~2025-32895-00 (talk) 11:54, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Start by reading WP:BOSS. You have a clear conflict of interest, and almost certainly need to declare it per WP:PAID, and shouldn't be editing your CEO's page directly. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Short answer is you don't

Long answer is, you have a conflict of interest. This means that it is very unlikely you are able to write objectively about the subject (whether intentionally or not). If you can find reliable(note that wikipedias idea of reliable may not be the same as what you believe to be reliable) , secondary sources, then you can make a edit request on the articles talk page mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:12, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Subsections of History that are date ranges

See Nokia#History for an example. Is it ideal for the subsection titles to simply be a date range like 1865-1967 or should there also be a descriptive term added like "1865-1967: something early history"? yutsi (talk) 13:08, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Yutsi 1865–1967 seems to be sufficiently descriptive; date ranges as subsections like this are in common use on Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:02, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

For questions of this sort, a good way to approach it is to consider if adding the descriptive portions would aid in navigation or understanding for readers - or if it would just add verbiage. Matt Deres (talk) 14:26, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Microsoft PowerShell

Where are language files on PowerShell? Green Wave (talk) 14:38, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Green Wave This is not a general help desk, sorry. Questions should pertain to using Wikipedia. You could try the Reference Desk. 331dot (talk) 14:40, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello! This page is for people who need help editing wikipedia. You might have better luck with a search engine like google or duckduckgo. If you still want help from a wikipedian, then the reference desk could prove helpful! mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:23, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

How to tell which editors are working on a task

I'm working on depopulating Category:All articles with bare URLs for citations

Some are straightforward and some are tricky. I'd like to chat with others who are working on this initiative but I don't know how to figure out who is working on it. Is there a way to figure this out? S Philbrick(Talk) 18:35, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick:, you could go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Citation cleanup, which seems to be active. TSventon (talk) 18:44, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm embarrassed that didn't occur to me, thanks. S Philbrick(Talk) 19:53, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Head teacher

want to redirect Superhead to Head teacher

needs Wikipedia:Administrators

q.v.: Alan Davies (headmaster) Hope and Glory (TV series) Centre for High Performance

• https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2024/39/superhead
• https://schoolsweek.co.uk/tributes-paid-to-superhead-amanda-phillips-who-died-after-a-fall/
• https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/superhead-anthony-seldon-and-his-challenge-to-improve-wellington-college-317608.html

Piñanana (talk) 18:39, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Piñanana: I suggest that you ask the admin who protected the page at User talk:Diannaa. TSventon (talk) 18:48, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Diannaa: there is a person referred to on the internet as Superhead hence the block, this is an important different usage because many UK educational trust administrators (Superhead) have been newsworthy ... Piñanana (talk) 23:22, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

This article indicates not all head teachers are superheads. The term super-head (with a dash) has also been used. The term seems to be primarily used to dis a particular actress; people would be very surprised for "Superhead" to redirect anywhere else. So I don't think is a good idea to create an ordinary redirect. I will create it as a soft redirect to the Wictionary entry. Hope this meets your approval! — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:51, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

superheads are a subset of head teacher, head master, Executive head teacher, and High master (academic), "super head teachers"

"A specialist headteacher sent, by government or other authority, to reorganise and improve a school that is perceived to be failing."

They have been appointed since Tony Blair and Michael Gove to solve problems at UK educational institutions

They have sometimes abused their enhanced powers thus becoming newsworthy

Their jurisdiction could be only one school or an educational trust with more than one school.

They are like a US Superintendent (education) like Superintendent of the Los Angeles Unified School District or California State Superintendent of Public Instruction

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"The term seems to be primarily used to dis a particular actress"

This usage seems to be mostly a North American usage.

Piñanana (talk) 04:52, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

from oxford reference ("This article"), super-head and Superhead seem to mean Executive head teacher, a sub-section of head teacher

Piñanana (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Backronymously

Can one use the word "backronymously" in Wikivoice? It is the adverbial form of "backronym" ―Howard • 🌽³³ 19:55, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

I would say not, as it would grant a degree of pseudo-legitimacy to a particularly hideous neologism. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:01, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

ah I see. thanks! ―Howard • 🌽³³ 20:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Howardcorn33: please use backronymously in a sentence... Piñanana (talk) 23:25, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Example for Piñanana: The USA PATRIOT Act was named backronymously. Meaning: After the name 'USA PATRIOT Act' was thought up, a longer form ('Uniting and Strengthening...') was devised so that 'USA PATRIOT' could be described as its acronym. Backronymously is standardly derived from backronym (a term that's not widely used but is well established) -- cf synonym → synonymous → synonymously -- so there's no grammar-based reason not to use it. But other than within a discussion of backronymy, it's likely to hinder communication, so it's better avoided. -- Hoary (talk) 00:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@Howardcorn33: The editor is is supposed to use editorial judgement. An editor using judgement should not IMO use "backronymously", because it's really ugly and is very easy to avoid. Example: The USA PATRIOT Act was named backronymously. can be rephrased as PATRIOT is a backronym. It's shorter and easier to understand. -Arch dude (talk) 02:26, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

The redirect "Qimir"

QimirQimir currently redirects to Qımır. However, I am struggling in my evaluation of which is less niche: the Star Wars character Qimir (who has a bullet point paragraph in Star Wars: The Acolyte#Cast and characters), or the aforementioned village. If the former is more well-known, then it should redirect there, but if not, then it shouldn't. (I wanted to bring this up at RfD, but that page seems like it's for deleting redirects rather than rerouting them. Yyannako (talk) 02:34, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

For future reference, RfD stands for Redirects for Discussion which includes discussing what is the proper target of a redirect. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 04:01, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Oh, that's good to know. I read the page, and the "tutorial" kept mentioning the deletion of redirects. Yyannako (talk) 13:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

If I understand right (and I didn't read at all closely), the Acolyte "Qimir" is the/a nom de guerre of some character in one of the many Star Wars products. Its well-knownness relative to that of Qımır (the village) would be hard to calculate, but it hardly seems overwhelmingly greater. The current hatnote -- "Qimir" redirects here. For the fictional character, see Qimir (character) -- seems helpful, unambiguous, and adequate. -- Hoary (talk) 04:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Aligning images to the top

Hi, in the header of this category I'm trying to present the order in which the five pieces of the map are aligned to each other. The buttom right image however needs to get aligned to the top of its row. How can this be facilitated? Thanks in advance, --Enyavar (talk) 09:37, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@Enyavar: You can wrap it in <span style="vertical-align:top;">...</span>. I think the images should be much smaller and the alignment should be explained. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you for the response, I tried something similar already, and your code looks like what I want. But it didn't work yet. I followed your other advice; would you like to try your hand? Best, --Enyavar (talk) 11:28, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

It was only meant for that image.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:38, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks again! --Enyavar (talk) 12:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Donations

if not for left-wing bias I would donate to wikipedia ~2025-33648-28 (talk) 14:04, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

The good news is, donating is optional and anyone is welcome to edit Wikipedia and contribute to the majority of discussions. If there are topics you're concerned don't meet our neutrality policy, you can raise those concerns on those talk pages. Nil🥝 14:10, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

"Reality has a distinct liberal bias." Stephen Colbert. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 14:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

~2025-31359-08, "reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- Hoary (talk) 23:03, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

I stand corrected (though not correctly, my posture is terrible). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 12:54, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

It isn't possible to 'donate to Wikipedia'. Donations go to the WikiMedia Foundation, who are sitting on a huge pile of dosh, and are less than popular with a good few Wikipedia contributors who are less than happy with the way the WMF implies that the servers are liable to shut down any time soon if you don't add to the pile. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Sources

So I was reading through the French and Indian war page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War). I noticed a source isn't stated. I'm new to this so I'm not sure if it matters or something. The source is (i'm pretty sure) Empires at War: The French and Indian War and the Struggle for North America, 1754-1763, By William M. Fowler. But yeah i'm just asking if theres anything I (or someone else) should do about this. Bacon (talk) 15:42, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Eatthebacons. While the policy is that everything in a Wikipedia article should be verifiable from a reliable published source, articles are not always required to cite the source. (It has often been proposed that they should be required to, but this has never been accepted: see WP:PERENNIAL#Require inline citations for everything.)

So an article missing a citation is not against policy.

Having said that, if you are able and willing to add a citation to an article that lacks one, that will be most welcome. All editors are welcome to improve Wikipedia. It doesn't actually matter whether you recognise the original source or not: as long as you cite a source that is reliable (and independent unless the information it is verifying is such as may be verified from a primary source), and you've checked that it does indeed verify the information in the article, you may add it.

If you're not sure how to add a citation, please see WP:REFB. ColinFine (talk) 16:35, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Ok. The source had a in text citation, but didn't have the full name of the book anywhere. Bacon (talk) 19:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

The personal homepage and suggested edits

I am not see a Homepage tab on my account. Only User Page and Talk. What have I neglected to do? Jederyan (talk) 16:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Helloa, @Jederyan. You can turn that on in your user preferences, specifically at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-homepage. ColinFine (talk) 16:39, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! Jederyan (talk) 16:56, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

2028 College Football Playoff National Championship Article

Can you please make a redirect Article for the 2028 College Football Playoff National Championship Please ~2025-33532-40 (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to what? We don't have articles on 2026 & 2027 yet, and I can't imagine that there's much to be said about 2028. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Not able to auto translate

I am trying to auto-translate the page Garibaldi (cocktail) from french into english but when I click to automatically translate it translates from FR into FR as opposed to in FR into EN.

I am extended confirmed so there shouldn't be a problem and the page correctly list the original language as français and the target language as English but it just wont translate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation?from=fr&to=en&page=Garibaldi+%28cocktail%29

Is there something wrong with the system or how I'm doing it? AmazingAce123 (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@AmazingAce123:, I understand that automatic translation to English is disabled, see Wikipedia:Content translation tool#English Wikipedia restrictions. TSventon (talk) 17:25, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @AmazingAce123.

I'm afraid that even if you could use the tool, fr:Garibaldi (cocktail) does not meet English Wikipedia's standards for citations, and so does not establish that the subject is notable.

If you were to translate the existing article even manually, and submit it for review at WP:AFC it would not be accepted - and supposing you could find sources that were acceptable to English Wikipedia (see WP:42) and tried to add them, you would find that you had written the article backwards, and involved yourself in much more work than if you started from scratch.

There is also a tag on the French article, since August last year, saying that its format needs improvement, so that is another reason not to just translate it. ColinFine (talk) 19:03, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate the quick answers!

The tag is in regards to the fact that it is too practical in detailing what the drink entails; fixing it simply requires not translating some sections. While it doesn't currently fit the standards it would be convenient to be able to auto-translate it for a base.

I think it does pass the standard for notability since it it is on the list of IBA official cocktails and is the only one of the Contemporary Classics to not have its own page. There are pages for it in four other languages. I'll just manually translate the section I need. A (talk) 22:20, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

possibility of bringing back a removed page

Hey. Is it possible for an article that was removed to be brought back by a high-tier user? Vastmajority20025 (talk) 18:13, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@Vastmajority20025: it depends why the page was deleted, see Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. TSventon (talk) 18:53, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Author template

Gordon Korman has a works template. Is there a way to find other author templates? Or hunt by n̈ame? DMc75771 (talk) 20:52, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@DMc75771, That navbox is Template:Gordon Korman, and it's in categories Category:American writer navigational boxes, Category:Canadian writer navigational boxes, and Category:Novelist navigational boxes, so you can loaok through those categories to see what exists. ColinFine (talk) 21:06, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

See also the other subcategories of Category:Writer navigational boxes. Deor (talk) 23:16, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

AV audio commentary ref formatting

At The Man with the Golden Gun (film) we've got a few refs like this:

• {{cite video|people=Maud Adams|title=The Man with the Golden Gun audio commentary|location=The Man with the Golden Gun Ultimate Edition, Disk 1|publisher=MGM Home Entertainment}}

which formats as

• Maud Adams. The Man with the Golden Gun audio commentary. The Man with the Golden Gun Ultimate Edition, Disk 1: MGM Home Entertainment.{{cite AV media}}: CS1 maint: location (link)

The "location" field is obviously a problem. The "people" field is here apparently being used to identify the person speaking on the audio commentary. Unfortunatly there is no time stamp included. The question is, how should this be formatted? GA-RT-22 (talk) 23:18, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, GA-RT-22. The documentation can be found at Template:Cite AV media. Sometimes editors add parameters. Not every parameter needs to be filled in, but if used, they should be used correctly. The non-standard location parameter is obviously used incorrectly. I would remove it. Cullen328 (talk) 05:03, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Article notability

Is David Diga Hernandez (or someone like that) notable enough to have an article written about him?

He has a youtube channel David Diga Hernandez - YouTube with over 2 million subscribers.

He is mentioned in sources such as these:

• Who is David Diga Hernandez? Age, Wife, Net Worth, Ministry
• David Diga Hernandez Biography: Age, Net Worth, Family, Career, and Achievements - PASTORS BIO
• David Diga Hernandez

Wikieditor662 (talk) 23:44, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Wikieditor662. Possibly, but not from what you've said.

Mentions are not enough.

Almost the whole of an article should be based on substantial independent sources about the subject - see WP:42. I doubt if any of those sources are independent (most of the information probably comes from Hernandez or his associates), and I am dubious whether Wikipedia would regard any of them as reliable sources, though I may be wrong. ColinFine (talk) 00:28, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Fanny Truchelut page

Hi. I have read the Fanny Truchelut page and find it very strange, and I have tried to find more info from major French newspapers, even Le Figaro - in vain. Is there some way some competent people could make sure that page should be admitted on W. Thank you ~2025-33660-21 (talk) 02:53, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello. I agree that Fanny Truchelut is problematic. The relevant policy language can be found at Subjects notable only for one event. It seems unlikely to me that this person is eligible for a freestanding article. Your inability to find coverage in reliable French language sources is more evidence. Cullen328 (talk) 04:46, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

I was asked about this on my talk page, but referred the question here. The article was created in 2007 and Wikipedia's policies have changed since then. Truchelut is mentioned in three articles in fr Wikipedia with citations, including fr:Laïcité en France, however the citations seem to be from 2007 and 2008, so WP:BLP1E (subjects notable only for one event) is still relevant. TSventon (talk) 12:31, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your answers. I (had) added this on the Talk page: The sources given are unknown (what is Come4news ?), not accessible (once uve clicked the Waybackmachine link, it answers this: Hrm. The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.). One of the "sources" is "Gates of Vienna", their page says "At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

List of conspiracy theories#Sports

List of conspiracy theories#Sports

wheres "world cup 2022 is rigged" ~2025-31383-46 (talk) 07:59, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia content is based on reliable sources. Where are your reliable sources stating it was rigged?Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:20, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/world-cup-rigged-lionel-messi-louis-van-gaal-claim-argentina-netherlands-qatar/blt8be048a9dc620013 world cup being rigged is a conspricy theory and deserves to be added in list of conspricies ~2025-31383-46 (talk) 09:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-31383-46 That is obviously a claim by one person. I am not seeing a conspiracy theory anywhere. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:22, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/lionel-messi-louis-van-gaal-fifa-world-cup-2022-rigged-favour-van-dijk-controversy-argentina-vs-netherlands/article67277125.ece ~2025-31383-46 (talk) 03:09, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

As Shantavira pointed out, that is just one person's opinion. Meters (talk) 04:24, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBpjTrSsDaQ ~2025-31383-46 (talk) 08:41, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@Shantavira, I think you mean "Where are your reliable sources stating that there is/was a conspiracy theory claiming that it was rigged?" ColinFine (talk) 19:31, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

How to know if the biography from different Wikipedia is worth the article in En Wiki?

I found this article Wikipedia:Notability (people), but it's not clear if the person needs to be notable worldwide or can be notable on a country level. I have two articles (on Polish Wikipedia):

• pl:Andrzej Dragan
• pl:Urszula Wolska

The first person is a well known professor (there are 5 langauges) and the second is an artist, she was listed on this page Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Artists. Dragan may be more known outside the country, he is a researcher, Wolska is not that well known outside of Poland (article is only in one language).

How to decide if I can create articles for them in En Wiki. They are notable in pl Wiki, but I'm not sure about en Wiki. jcubic (talk) 10:19, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

This Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion are summarised at WP:42. More specifically, for academics we also have WP:NPROF, and for artists WP:NARTIST. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:21, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

jcubic If you want advice on the notability of a woman's biography, you can ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. Different Wikipedias have different criteria, so a pl article is not necessarily notable in en. TSventon (talk) 12:38, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: I know that different Wikipedia have different criteria, that's why I'm asking this question. Will try to ask on project talk page. From my experience, most projects on Wikipedia (at least on Polish Wiki) are dead and no one replies. jcubic (talk) 17:28, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@Jcubic: there are a lot of dead en wikiprojects, I would advise looking for recent replies before posting on a project talk page, but Women in Red is active. TSventon (talk) 17:38, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Yes, I've read that. The link to that article is in the question. It don't answer my question. Those statements are very generic, similar to the one we have in Polish Wiki. It doesn't explain what citation is. Should it be English worldwide citation, or can it be citation in a different language. Is the article notable if all reference are language other than English? jcubic (talk) 17:27, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@Jcubic: the general guidance on notability for humans is Wikipedia:Notability (people). The main requirment (basic criteria) is have they received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. It doesn't matter if the sources are from Poland or in Polish. There are also more specialised guidelines, e.g. for academics. TSventon (talk) 17:41, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

"That"? I gave you three links. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:45, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing and Jcubic: I should have said that Wikipedia:Notability says that sources can come from anywhere in the world and be in any language. TSventon (talk) 17:52, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Utilizing AI to translate Chinese/Japanese articles into English.

I am interested in translating some articles from Japanese Wiki into English Wiki using AI.

So, there are now AI tools capable of translating much more comprehensive Wikipedia articles from Japanese or Chinese into English without losing context, better than DeepL or Google translation due to their ability to scour the Internet for context.

One example is Google’s AI Studio, which has an option to more or less quickly analyze Japanese texts for historical accuracy, resulting in consistent naming and far less discrepancies as compared to ordinary machine translation. I was pretty amazed because it made hitherto impossible to understand machine translations legible.

So, I have a simple question.

Would it be a good practice / is it allowed to fully copy well-researched articles from foreign-language Wikipedia, translate them using such AI tools, and then paste the content into the English Wikipedia, citing only the original foreign-language article as the source?

I am somewhat well-read on certain topics, so I'd be able to spot the obvious translation errors, but the problem I have is the workload with sources.

For example, the Japanese Wikipedia article on Kiyohime is far more robust and detailed than the English version. It could be made vastly more accessible to the English-speaking audience if AI translation tools were used.

The problem, I mentioned, is the general paucity of foreign wikipedia articles. A character from a Fujiwara clan can have an entire wikipedia page on JP wikipedia, but not exist in the English one. Worse still, a JP article can have hundreds of sources, but to copy them one to one into EN wiki would just be far too work intensive, if every source, reference, and hyperlink were to be included.~2025-33734-00 (talk) 14:29, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Do not under any circumstances use AI to translate Wikipedia articles from one language to another, unless you are capable of reading both languages yourself, and are prepared to carefully check that the entire translation is supported by sources you can also read yourself. Given the well-documented, routine, and unavoidable tendency of AI to 'hallucinate' where it lacks data, such translations simply cannot be trusted. Any article translation of any reasonable complexity will contain errors and falsehoods, and you will be responsible for dealing with them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello @~2025-33734-00. To add to what Andy said: in articles in many Wikipedias (and also in many older articles in English Wikipedia) the sources cited are nowhere near adequate for an article to be added to English Wikipedia today. Translating an article from another Wikipedia (whether manually or with machine assistance) is a waste of time unless you first verify that the sources are adequate by the current standards of English Wikipedia (see WP:42). ColinFine (talk) 19:36, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Google books previews greyed out on W11

Finally found the time and health to work on an article using Google books preview. I had started a few days ago but too tired from cancer pain. Feeling better today and went back to the page. I had the window I wanted open and I could see the text I wanted. Now it isn't visible, just a greyed out window without the preview. [8] Doug Weller talk 16:02, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Try the link here instead as a workaround for the time being. https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Frozen_Echo.html?id=5qonlDkZW3MC – {{u|hekatlys}} ^WOOF 16:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

The Preview button is blue, nothing happens. Window won't accept text. Thanks though. Doug Weller talk 16:17, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm lucky in that I have this particular book - I thought it might have been buried when stuff was moved around heavily in my study and bookshelves removed with books stacked up in anticipation of having to move my bed downstàirs. Right leg swollen and serious pain , last stage of my cancer.But I'm getting a stairlift and found the book. But there are others I need to look at also, they are all the same. Doug Weller talk 16:28, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

That's a little annoying that the workaround worked for me, but isn't doing the same for you. I'm looking for alternatives as well, but the previews seem more limited than Google. Not sure if another web browser would change the results for the Google preview(s). – {{u|hekatlys}} ^WOOF 16:35, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

See [9]. Doug Weller talk 16:35, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Going back to classic Google books seems to work for me, e.g. https://books.google.com/books?id=5qonlDkZW3MC . TSventon (talk) 16:49, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Not for me sadly. Greyed out, clicking on the large X upper right hand corner doesn't work either. Doug Weller talk 16:58, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: there is a discussion on Reddit about the same problem, started 6 hours ago, so presumably Google will get onto it in due course. TSventon (talk) 21:35, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon@Hekatlys Working now. Leg pain bad enough, now I'm losing energy as food doesn't just taste horrible, it tastes and swallows like sand. Trying soup which at least I can gulp down and my wife is making me an American eggnog with full fat milk ! Doug Weller talk 11:48, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Next course of action?

This user has been warned many times regarding their edits to political pages. Some of them may not be disruptive but are pointless (like swapping the order of two similar fields in an infobox for tens of articles), others may be mistakes of questionable faith.

In spite of these many warnings, the user does not seem to change their approach. What is the right course of action here? I feel ill-equipped to approach the WP:ANI directly. Kingsacrificer (talk) 18:02, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

See WP:DR, but if warnings have already been given, ANI is likely the correct approach. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:31, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

New style IP's and reporting to WP:VIP

Hi. I just found the page about temporary accounts, which details the reasons behind the change regarding no longer displaying public IP addresses. Could I please ask if there is any advice on reporting the temporary accounts to VIP in the event of vandalism? Do we simply copy & paste the link to the account? Alternatively, does the Twinkle system support these new addresses, because that would make reporting easier, in the event of having to do so. Thank you. Dane|Geld 19:20, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@DaneGeld: yes, copy and paste the link to the account. If you look at the recent history of WP:AIV, you will see temporary accounts being reported and blocked. TSventon (talk) 23:18, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

aren't the Belize banknotes supposed to be the new and updated one?

saw the old banknotes and I was confused ~2025-33821-55 (talk) 20:03, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

The article Belize dollar does seem to have the 2003 issue as it's main image, rather than the 2025 issue. An editor may volunteer to upload a more recent image, but I can't imageine anyone is in a rush to do so. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 20:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-33821-55 Countries are often very careful about the copyright of their banknotes, which is one reason that even the 2003 issue marked "Specimen" are only on Wikipedia under fair use terms. You would have to be careful that any image of the 2025 series met all the criteria at WP:NONFREE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 23:12, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Essays by inbound link count

Resolved

There is a page that lists Wikipedia essays by inbound link count. What is the URL? Polygnotus (talk) 21:46, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@Polygnotus This: Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia essays/Assessment/Links? — DVRTed (Talk) 22:00, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

@DVRTed You are a genius, thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Publishing assistance

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hi guys,

Sorry for a follow up question but I am unable to find a way to ask questions on threads as they get closed before i can get an answer as to my question.

I "think" i have submitted my draft for publication but its been a long time now with no feedback or updates from wikipedia / in my email so I am not sure if my article has even been submitted for publication.

Can someone please look at my draft and let me know if it has actually gone in for submission or not? Any help appreciated. Im new to wikipedia and finding it all rather confusing!! Thank you in advance. LJ12345 (talk) 00:58, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Answered on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 01:03, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Help

I'm stuck here. How do I get out??? ~2025-33851-90 (talk) 03:46, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

What do you mean by 'here'? This is the Help Desk for the English-language Wikipedia. A webpage, and not something you can get 'stuck' in. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:50, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

The best way to beat your addiction is to improve the place. Polygnotus (talk) 04:02, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Anna Maria Horsford

Anna Maria Horsford

Dear Ladies and Gentleman,

I just noticed and I’m so sorry that there wasn’t either a birthday listed or better information on the parents of one of my favorite actresses, Anna Maria Horsford, on your website, but here is a listing of that information and a solid credible reference for that information for your wonderful website. And the source of that information is from thebiography.org, which specializes in such biographies. Thank you so much.

I’m submitting this information to you first, as you are the esteemed editors of Wikipedia, and please feel free to include it in your own wordage for your webpage on her as you see fit.

Again, my reference for this information is:

Wanberg, Daniel. thebiography.org. “Anna Maria Horsford Biography: Husband, Net Worth, Children.” Oct. 29, 2025. Accessed Nov. 15, 2025. <https://thebiography.org/anna-maria-horsford-biography-husband-net-worth-children/>. ClassicMac2025 (talk) 05:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately websites with mass-produced celebrity biographies with no original reporting or primary sources are usually AI generated. It probably used https://www.astro-seek.com/birth-chart/anna-maria-horsford-horoscope as a source, which we would classify as unreliable. If a website claims it knows the net worth of some celebritity it is time to be suspicious.Polygnotus (talk) 05:30, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

What you could do is check her social media around March 6. Polygnotus (talk) 05:40, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

I’d like to create a Wikipedia page

I’d like to create a Wikipedia page Mark Anthony Locklear (talk) 05:57, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi! What would the topic be? I would recommend reading WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. Have a nice day, Polygnotus (talk) Polygnotus (talk) 06:04, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Mark Anthony Locklear. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 11:18, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

@Mark Anthony Locklear And please don't try to create an autobiography as you are not notable as required if Wikipedia is to have an article about you, judging by Google hits for your name. (Neither am I). Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:03, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Justus Smith Stearns

I just created a new article on Justus Smith Stearns. How do I get "nationality" in the Infobox Person box to show as American? How do I get a Contents box to show the section titles? Thanks. California Broker (talk) 12:04, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for your contributions! You actually very rarely need nationalities of people in their infoboxes, and it's typically not recommended. For transparency anyway, the parameter is |citizenship=. Please use only when necessary per WP:INFONAT. jolielover♥talk 12:47, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Create redirect from "Peter Park"

• Peter Park (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I would like to create a redirect from "Peter Park" {it states that "CactusWriter protected Peter Park [Create=Require administrator access] (indefinite)"}. Do you know on which forum I should file such a request? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:10, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

@Jax 0677:, you could start by contacting the admin who protected the article name, see WP:SALT. TSventon (talk) 14:51, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Script warning

I recently created Justus Smith Stearns. In preview mode it displays these warnings below. What are they and how do I fix.

• This is only a preview; your changes have not yet been saved! → Go to editing area
• Script warning: One or more {{cite book}} templates have errors; messages may be hidden (help).
• Script warning: One or more {{cite news}} templates have maintenance messages; messages may be hidden (help).

Thanks for help. California Broker (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Did you use some sort of AI tool to create that article? AI is known to have problems with citing sources. Bingham 1924 and Caudill 1983 are obviously malformed/intermixed; they both can't have the same ISBN; Caudill 1983 title is malformed.

Stearns obituary and Long Life are not surnames, 'Vol XLIII No.92' is not a given name, 'February 14, 1933' is not a publisher (2×). Don't abuse cs1|2 template parameters.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:17, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Seems fixed? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:38, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes, fixed! Now how do I get a Contents Box in the first paragraph to list the section headers of the article? California Broker (talk) 20:48, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Not really. Caudill 1983 still has a malformed title.

Did you click the 'hide' link? Did you try clicking the 'show' link? I see these section headings in the contents box:

1. Early life
2. Mid life
3. Later life
4. Businesses
5. Politics
6. References
7. Sources

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:56, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Rock Bridge Network, Peter Tiel, Chris Buskirk, etc

I read the Rock Bridge Network article on Wikipedia. I couldn't find a way to add the following info: I'm listening to MSNBC, Stephanie Ruhl, an economic journalist and host. She had Elizabeth Dwoskin, Silicon Valley correspondent, on her show, who spoke at length of the aims of Peter Tiel and Chris Buskirk (political operative) to develop a US aristocracy (them and associates), using the MAGA movement to get into power and deregulate the tech industry. They and JD Vance started a secret donor ciricle, first helping to elect trump in 2016 and again in 2020. Musk is also a part. Also on the show was Max Chafkin, author of the book: The Contrarian: Peter Tiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power (2021).I hope someone has the time to add more details to the article based on these individuals. Thank you ~2025-34238-05 (talk) 03:46, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

If you want to add material to an article (in this case, Rockbridge Network), and if this material is relevant to the subject of the article, nontrivial, clear, and reliably sourced, then you can usually add it yourself. "[Speaking] at length of the aims" of a plutocrat and an "operative" is woolly: it falls short of stating what these aims were. Likewise, for an author of a topical book about the plutocrat to be on a show falls a long way short of a lucid evaluation of the book by a political correspondent writing directly for publication and thus feeling no need to mince words because of the presence of the author. If you want to have something added to the article but don't want to add it yourself, then you might add it to the foot of Talk:Rockbridge Network. Be as precise as you can. (Which MSNBC show? If it's available on the web, what's the link? Et cetera.) Happy editing! -- Hoary (talk) 06:12, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-34238-05 I think the person being referred to is "Peter Thiel", not "Tiel". David10244 (talk) 07:42, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Take care of promo vandalism for me

I don't have the patience to deal with what I percieve as spam attempts at HEC-HMS and Storm Water Management Model by @Shubhams06 and newly created @Civilengineeringsoftware (who uses false edit summaries and dead(?) urls in citations). If deemed appropriate, can someone revert, warn and send to WP:AIV if necessary. Thanks Commander Keane (talk) 08:52, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I reverted, but ~2025-34249-71 and ~2025-33868-20 reverted back. Either it's a sockpuppeteer or a coordinated group of people. Perception312 (talk) 12:07, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I have requested protection for Storm Water Management Model. Perception312 (talk) 13:32, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Urgent Enquiry

Please i will like to know more details/source about a Chieftaincy(ODOFIN) of a kingdom called ILEOGBO when it was under OYO state in Nigeria. ~2025-34258-10 (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

This Help desk is for asking questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. You could try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities, though I'd try to explain in a little more detail what you are asking for. And please note that labelling questions 'urgent' isn't going to get them answered any sooner. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:54, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello! This page is for people who need help editing wikipedia. You might have better luck with a search engine like google or duckduckgo. If you still want help from a wikipedian, then the reference desk could prove helpful! mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 17:12, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Company Page Creation

I tried creating company page with information about its history, founder, establishment details, services provided and links about the articles published by independent media houses. The page was immediately deleted claiming to violate the policy. all the company pages that exist in the Wikipedia has same kind of information, that i had provided, so why did the page was deleted. Rewired Mavericks (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

(user indeffed) qcne (talk) 16:16, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I need help displaying a map properly; Openstreetmap relation is created, can't get it to show up in the article

Hello, I tried to get this to work for some time but had no luck. I've asked for help elsewhere but people only seem to know wikipedia or openstreetmap, not both. Is there someone who can please help who speaks both? No matter the attempts I made I just couldn't seem to crack it.

The relation in question is here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/19476256

The article in question is The Stourbridge Line (note the commented code right in the infobox).

Thanks in advance to whomever can help! Kether83 (talk) 16:19, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@Kether83 If you don't quickly get help here, ask again at WP:Graphics Lab/Map workshop, where the specialists hang out and you can submit a new request. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:59, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

style guide on bolding piped links

Assume in a situation where something would be bolded and is piped, where are the rules/guidelines on bolding inside vs. outside the link. '''[[abc|def]]''' and [[abc|'''def''']] give the same result, is one preferred over the other? I am presuming that '''[[abc]]''' is *always* preferred to [[abc|'''abc''']] Naraht (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@Naraht See Help:Link for lots of examples and some guidance. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Michael D. Turnbull , read through it twice, it contains a lot of how to, but no guidance in determining which of the two ways which appear equal are preferred. WP:AWB will convert [[abc|'''abc''']] to '''[[abc]]''', but I'm looking for slightly broader guidelines here.Naraht (talk) 19:51, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I personally prefer '''[[abc|def]]''' over [[abc|'''def''']], and anecdotally I believe my preference is aligned with what I see more commonly done, but as far as I'm aware there's no guidance directly recommending one format over the other. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:33, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

How to create an English version of a Wiki page?

What is the best way to create an English version of this page for the Faculty of Economics and Administration of Masaryk University: https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekonomicko-spr%C3%A1vn%C3%AD_fakulta_Masarykovy_univerzity ? An automatic translation is not allowed but I would be happy to help edit one given the need to have an English language version ("On the English Wikipedia this tool is limited to extended confirmed editors, and the machine translation component is disabled for all users (see WP:CXT)."). Czechecon (talk) 17:27, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@Czechecon: Note that the English Wikipedia's standards for sourcing and notability tend to be stricter than other Wikipediae, and so a straight translation is unlikely to work. Approach it as if you were writing a new article, and assess the sources on the Czech Wikipedia version against WP:NCORP and WP:RS. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:42, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

See also the general advice at WP:TRANSLATE. The notability issue should be your main concern. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:43, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I went ahead and created a redirect to Masaryk University. There is already a brief 2 sentence description at the main university article. I would start by expanding that, then when you've got enough sourced information to spin out and demonstrate notability, spin it out at that time. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:47, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@Czechecon:, do you work for the university, if so please read and comply with the guidance at WP:PAID, and WP:COI, and make the necessary declarations. A university employee started a similar discussion at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archive 72#English Version of Article. TSventon (talk) 17:52, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Return my posts

How on another person’s talk page i return my posts after deleting them? Thanks Jp33442 (talk) 18:33, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

How about don't? Fiddling around on other peoples' talk pages is annoying, to say the least. And given your editing history, [10][11] might I suggest that if you actually wish to contribute anything to Wikipedia, you do so, and stop treating it like some social-media plaything? AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Donations on Mobile site

I donate money to wikipedia on an ad hoc basis, usually from a desktop computer. Today I tried to give you some money from my phone and it appears there is NO front page link to the donation widget. Or if there is it’s not easy to find. You should think about either adding it to mobile, or making it WAY more obvious if it’s there and I’ve missed it. Overdraft611 (talk) 19:50, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

@Overdraft611 We, the volunteers at Wikipedia, have no control over the Wikimedia Foundation's donation system (and we don't want or receive any of the cash either, but that's another matter). According to Wikipedia:Contact us/Donors, the email address for donation issues/suggestions is donate@wikimedia.org. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 23:50, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Just a suggestion to help make Wikipedia sustainable. If you're not the right person then maybe you're embedded enough to have contacts on the money side. I literally tried to give Wikipedia money and couldn't figure out how. I know you need it because I keep getting nagging popups saying you need it. It's therefore odd that you wouldn't make it easier to do! Overdraft611 (talk) 00:02, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

We don't have much say over the popups and banners either! I've given you the email address where you can reach staff who do have control over the donation systems. I'm sorry to say that none of the volunteers answering questions on this page can help you with this issue. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 00:07, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Overdraft611 Just because the Wikimedia Foundation begs for money doesn't necessarily mean they need it... David10244 (talk) 07:47, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Overdraft611: you are not the first person to mention this issue. I will bring it up at Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF) in a bit. Wikipedia itself doesn't collect donations, you have been donating to the Wikimedia Foundation. You can just go direct to the source and hit their donate button: https://wikimediafoundation.org/. Commander Keane (talk) 01:57, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining the separation of functions. But the average user doesn’t know there’s a distinction so wouldn’t know to look elsewhere. We know the world is migrating to mobile AND the donation link exists on the desktop site, so there’s no philosophical reason for the link not to exist on the mobile site. Overdraft611 (talk) 02:55, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Demographics section: Loyalhanna Township

See Loyalhanna Township, Pennsylvania. I tried to update the Historical Population table with current US Census data. But the result is a bit of a mess. I can't figure out how to fix it. There's some arcane structure at work here that baffles me. Can someone please help? Thank you in advance... BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 20:04, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Fixed by User:Thilio. Apparently the template can't tolerate commas. —Cryptic 23:46, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

I cannot reach userpages. It is goingto (USERNAME:user:USERNAME)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T410343

Hello,

I cannot reach to userpages. When I click username to visit userpage it is going to differnt page. For example; My user page is onmyway22. And user page is User:Onmyway22. However, when I try to click to my username from an article I created. it is going to Onmyway22:user:Onmyway22.

Somebody help Please ? Onmyway22 talk 21:57, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Seems to work for me. Screenshot, please? Not from after you click on the link, but of the page containing the link. And does it still happen with safemode enabled? —Cryptic 23:40, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

This is happening for me from the xtools header under page titles. Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 01:45, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Cryptic: screenshot at File:WP-HD screenshot username duplication.jpg. You can see the mouse is hovered over the username of the creator in the xtools toolbar at the top, and on the bottom left you see the url it is pointing to. I just picked the first article from Special:Random for a screenshot, but it's happening on multiple pages. Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 01:50, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. This is a bug in xtools, as can be seen by going to this link (which is how the xtools gadget fills in that line for this page). It's already been reported at phab:T410343. —Cryptic 02:10, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

"hot american actress"

If you hover your mouse over Sadie Stanley it says "hot american actress". I'm not disputing this, but I think the text should be more meaningful and less thirsty. I tried to change it but I didn't know how. --ACCCounTTT2000 (talk) 22:14, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Looking at the article history, those words seem to have been added and removed this morning. They should disappear in due course. TSventon (talk) 22:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Right, now it has disappeared. But why did I see an old version before? I saw it on Kim Possible (film) and I definitely didn't open that page this morning (or ever before, I think). --ACCCounTTT2000 (talk) 22:26, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

You see a cached version of the preview from Wikimedia's servers. I pressed edit and publish changes to try and clear the cache. TSventon (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Ah okay, thank you! --ACCCounTTT2000 (talk) 23:04, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

There is an option in account preferences (Gadgets -> Appearance -> "Add a clock...") to add a UTC clock to the user bar at the top-right; this clock is clickable and will purge your cache when you do so, forcing a fresh reload of the page. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 00:23, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Adding a listing

How do you add a listing? TheTacoSpot (talk) 23:17, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

You don't. Wikipedia doesn't have 'listings'. It has articles, on subjects that meet our notability criteria, based on what reliable published sources independent of the subject have to say about them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:16, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

And incidentally, you would do to read the Wikipedia:Username policy, given that your chosen name appears to match a business, and is thus not permitted. You will be given the opportunity to select something more appropriate. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:19, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Which business matches my username? ~2025-34620-12 (talk) 12:01, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Temporary accounts

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T366999

A new temp acct is now auto-created whenever I make an edit. Thereafter, every time I go to a different page, the Main Menu and the Tools Menu are added to my sidebars, despite these having been set to be 'hidden' when I accessed WP prior to editing under the new system.

I can hide both menus while remaining logged into my temp acct, but this setting does not appear to be saved in the cookie (or acted upon) because they are added back again whenever I go to a different page. I find this to be inefficient and irritating so I then log out of my temp acct, which makes this not a useful thing for me.

I will probably be editing less in the future.

~2025-34072-84 (talk) 00:57, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello. You can have both maximum anonymity and maximum control of various user features by registering for a free account. It is easy. Please read Wikipedia:Why create an account?. Cullen328 (talk) 07:30, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-34072-84, this sounds like T366999; hopefully this will get fixed soon. — DVRTed (Talk) 08:04, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

ring roads in india

in the above mentioned subject, Rajkot Ring Road is missing. please add the information along with the title. ~2025-34467-26 (talk) 05:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

There is a category Ring roads in India but it doesn't appear to have its own article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:12, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-34467-26 Wikipedia does not have an article on Rajkot Ring Road. We do not yet have an article on everything. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:30, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

are talk pages place for debating content on page

i wanna start debate on if page should be added ~2025-34520-18 (talk) 09:30, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I understand your question; but if you're asking "Is the talk page of an article where editors can discuss what should be added to, removed from, or changed in the article?", then the answer is "Yes, with a few exceptions". -- Hoary (talk) 10:38, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Please remind me ...

... where to look for those pie charts and other graphic representations of our contributions? Augnablik (talk) 09:41, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Augnablik. Is it https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ you're thinking of? qcne (talk) 09:49, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

The edit counter there is linked on "Edit statistics" at the bottom of user contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

News articles as secondary sources

I've been looking over the Wikipedia guidelines and policies, and I'm unsure on identify a seconary source from news articles. I know there are a lot of reliable news outlets that exist, but how can I know if they are secondary sources if they don't normally post any references of there own (like the way scholarly articles do)? My first thought was when they include and make an opinion or analysis on quotes from interviewed people, but I don't know if such news articles would count as a secondary source. What do you guys think? — Alex26337 ^(talk) 10:19, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

News articles are generally considered secondary sources unless the article is primarily an interview with the subject or merely a republishing of materials associated with the subject. 331dot (talk) 10:22, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Pages

How can i create a page for a person ~2025-34620-12 (talk) 12:00, 18 November 2025 (UTC)