Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/RyanCross 2
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RyanCross
[change source]Ended 21st September, 2008. 17 support / 1 oppose.
RyanCross has gone from edits like this or this, to edits like this.
He is "an excellent article writer who has bowed and admitted when wrong (HBP, TDK) and shown a desire to learn from that mistake and not commit it again." He has "over 6000+ edits counting deleted edits, 70% of which are mainspace edits, and over 300 deleted edits, most of which are WP:QD tagging." He "participates in discussions at Wikipedia:Simple talk and/or at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard."
- quotes from Wikipedia:Editor_review/RyanCross_2
His awards are well deserved and his edits are numerous and dispersed. Even some vandals like him! My only criticism is that his Wikiproject seems to have ground to a halt. That all aside, happy voting! We're not exactly going to need Nostradamus to predict the outcome of this Request for Adminship. --Gwib -(talk)- 20:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Co-nominator's statement
RyanCross has been extremely helpful in aspects like countering vandalism, with various VIP reports on a daily basis. His active participation in QDs, Rfds, Good Article nominations and has made quality edits over these months. I fully support and trust RyanCross and welcome him into the family of administrators.-- Tdxiang 01:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- One more thing to note is his active participation on IRC, getting connected to the community and forging positive work relationships with people. I can vouch for that and so can the vandals!
-- Tdxiang 02:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Late co-nomination from American Eagle
I have decided to co-nominate RyanCross (talk · contribs) to be granted the Sysop flag. Here's why he should be granted the Sysop flag, he has at least 50 VIP reports, I’m guessing that’s a record, but I’m not sure. As well as clerking for the VIP. He has hundreds of deleted edits, most of which are QD tags (literally hundreds). He is a full-rollbacker on the English Wikipedia, so he also knows how to use that flag.
He has no end of experience, with being over 3 months old. He told me that he has read all the policies and I personally know that he understands them. I've talked with him through many times on here, and even through another site we’re both on. I have no end of trust for him and we have become very good wiki-friends. But that doesn’t blind me at all; it only makes me want to see him be granted this flag even more. In closing, I ask you to support Ryan for adminship, he is so trustworthy, kind and welcoming, a great vandal-worker, etc. All of which are vital for the adminship position on the Simple English Wikipedia. Thank you. -- American Eagle (talk) 06:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Candidate's acceptance: Thank you for your nominations, Gwib, Tdxiang, and American Eagle. I'm honored and happy to accept, hoping that this may help me serve our community, and the Simple English Wikipedia, in the best way I possibly can.
Candidate's statement: Hello, I'm RyanCross of the Simple English Wikipedia. I've been an active editor for 3 months now, and have made over 6000 edits, about 70% of those edits in the mainspace. I believe I meet the requirements stated of the criteria for adminship and I believe I have the trust of the community for me to become an administrator.
My contributions to articles are very good from my side of view. I've done a lot of article building, improving, and creating (about 150 creations). That's why we're here in the first place! :-) I also create and edit templates, and sometimes categories too. All my creations (except disambiguations and categories) can be found here. I've also created 1 WP:VGA which is baseball uniform . Other articles I'm proud of are Green Day and Whitey Wistert. I'm almost always on Special:RecentChanges patrol, mostly vandalism reverting. Many of my WP:VIP reports (47 I think) have been dealt with and blocked. I've tagged numerous articles for quick deletion, most of which have been accurate. I have over 350 deleted edits from mostly QD tagging according to this edit counter. I participate and comment at WP:RFD on occasions. I would be able to close RfDs when the time comes and when I think consensus has been decided if I became an administrator. I also have a perfect edit summary usage by the looks of this edit counter and I always issue an appropriate edit summary telling what I am doing. I think I'm a civil person, and I'm good with keeping a cool head at all times. I comment at Simple talk and the administrators' noticeboard often, and with the tools, I can accomplish requests at WP:AN which need admin actions.
With my experience, I think I'll be a very good administrator. By the way, I have also noticed that few or even no administrators are online when I am online at times. I could help fill in those areas. If I am granted adminship, I promise I will do my best to help the community run smoothly and will not purposely misuse the tools for self purposes. Adminship is no big deal, and it's not a "trophy". Administrators just get a few extra buttons to further help with the maintenance side of Wikipedia.
I hope the community will think that I'll be a trustworthy administrator, and I think I can do a lot for our community! :-) Thank you for your time. -- RyanCross (talk) 21:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Support
[change source]- I have confidence that Ryan will be a great administrator. cassandra (talk) 21:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. ComputerGuy890100 (talk) 22:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- This vote seems a bit weird. The user has basically a copy of Ryan's userpage with minor bits changed, with very few edits, and a sudden return today after being inactive since February. And yet he notices this RfA less than an hour after it was posted - this isn't exactly a page people hit straight away when they return. If it's not a sockpuppet it's gonna be canvassing. I'm even tempted to think it's not a sockpuppet of Ryan though, because it's just too obvious... Ryan, I'm open to the idea that it may not be you, but if you know anything it's probably time to say it. Archer7 - talk 22:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just noticed myself that he took my user page design, and I just noticed this user came back from being inactive since February. This user is not me, I'll tell you that. But if you don't believe me, feel free to run a WP:RFCU. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 22:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- RyanCross: You are definitely not him, his IPs are (totally) different. --Eptalon (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Even if it's not him, there's still something weird going on there. That vote looks like it might even have been made to look suspicious, it's that obvious. Is it possible to do an open proxy check, Eptalon? Archer7 - talk 22:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- RyanCross: You are definitely not him, his IPs are (totally) different. --Eptalon (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just noticed myself that he took my user page design, and I just noticed this user came back from being inactive since February. This user is not me, I'll tell you that. But if you don't believe me, feel free to run a WP:RFCU. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 22:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- This vote seems a bit weird. The user has basically a copy of Ryan's userpage with minor bits changed, with very few edits, and a sudden return today after being inactive since February. And yet he notices this RfA less than an hour after it was posted - this isn't exactly a page people hit straight away when they return. If it's not a sockpuppet it's gonna be canvassing. I'm even tempted to think it's not a sockpuppet of Ryan though, because it's just too obvious... Ryan, I'm open to the idea that it may not be you, but if you know anything it's probably time to say it. Archer7 - talk 22:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Support I agree with gwib. Plus I nominated him thne 1st time but I forgot to tell him & he declined.Anyway I SUPPORT Static -=Electrify My Thoughts=- 23:12, Sunday September 14 2008 (UTC)
- Support as co-nom. Oy Gwib, don't be so blur can or not? Haha, Gwib! You forgot your vote!-- Tdxiang 02:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Support - After carefully reading the archived RfA on ENWP, especially those points on copyright infringement (here and here) I will still support. Ultimately, this all boils down to the old conflict that we shouldn't pay attention to ENWP habits if not reproduced over here! I've checked a few (admittedly, not all) his articles and none show copy-paste habits apart for identical sentences at ENWP. The thing which struck me the most is that people didn't bother to look after the copyright final warning. The next message following that spiteful message is a barnstar, after the barnstar are 3 curious and happy questions and then another 2 barnstars in one message. The issue happened in his archive 11, now he has 20 archives. Don't you think he will have paid attention and stopped? This doesn't change my views of him. --Gwib -(talk)- 05:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- NB. Using http://www.plagiarismdetect.com/, his most controversial article from ENWP (Baseball uniform) is 7% plagarised excluding sources from SEWP and ENWP. This 7% isn't reliable either, hits from the article such as "he wore a hat" will get totally unrelated hits. --Gwib -(talk)- 05:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. I doubt he'd do anything wiki-destroying and he'd most likely be helpful! i hope my vote counts here Tombomp (talk) 07:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Your vote most definately does count. You have made a few edits, so like every other editor here you have the chance to vote. Also welcome! :) Kennedy (talk) 07:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- For users with few edits, the actual vote may or may not count (Counting votes is left to the closing bureaucrat, last time I closed something, I counted those people who had done less than about 10 edits (before they voted)) as "illegal". In any case, your vote may inspire other people to vote one way or another. --Eptalon (talk) 16:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Your vote most definately does count. You have made a few edits, so like every other editor here you have the chance to vote. Also welcome! :) Kennedy (talk) 07:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Support Strongly - Excellent editor, will make a great admin, no doubts. Kennedy (talk) 07:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Strong support - definitely. A very good editor. - tholly --Talk-- 16:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Support Comment moved to talk. Microchip • talk 20:02, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- I moved the table to the talk page, it was messing with the formatting. Giggy (talk) 20:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Support - Great editor and numerous good articles. No doubt he should become an admin'!Yotcmdr TalkYotcmdr (talk) 17:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Support - I think that RyanCross would use the admin tools responsibly.--Matilda (talk) 00:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Strong support - though I'm a little confused, I was planning on being a co-nom for this and I wrote out the words. But that isn't important now, I completely support. -- American Eagle (talk) 05:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nono, American Eagle! Just write out your statement! You've made an essay on RyanCross, so why not show it? ;)-- Tdxiang 05:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I've added it. It's not really an essay, though! Thanks. -- American Eagle (talk) 06:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nono, American Eagle! Just write out your statement! You've made an essay on RyanCross, so why not show it? ;)-- Tdxiang 05:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Support disguised as an oppose - No... not anymore essays... ;) Chenzw Talk 09:20, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Support per above. Beefball Talk 15:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Support - Has been nothing but helpful to me since I joined and I think he knows the rules inside out. Good luck! FSM Noodly? 15:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Support Hi, two tickets for Les Miserables...oh dang, wrong queue. Sebb Talk 00:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Support --vector ^_^ (talk) 13:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
[change source]- Oppose due to apparent lack of understanding of copyright, as shown on candidate's recent RFA on EN. Aside from the copyright issues, one thing that jumps out is the suggestion "Additionally, I can't stop feeling like everything RyRy says lately is carefully planned to not ruffle feathers, to impress people, and to set himself up for adminship" does make me ponder. I also despise the apparent over-reliance on email and IRC - keeping things private runs against the spirit of the project. I assume, for example, this exchange with Gwib was about this request. Secrecy, or the perception of it, is damaging MindTheGap (talk) 23:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I have issues with the candidate's grasp of the English language. The continued failure to understand the difference between your and you're may not be that big a deal on EN (were he has been told about that specific issue at least once) but here, on Simple, English is less likely to be a user's first language, and basic spelling and grammar errors cause more problems MindTheGap (talk) 10:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Comments
[change source]Although I am happy to support Ryan for this he just canvassed me. Is this allowed?Andycjp (talk) 07:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Where? There is nothing to say he did on your talk page, or in its history. Kennedy (talk) 07:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect this to be the same for Tombomp, and maybe ComputerGuy890100. Canvassing is definitely not allowed. Archer7 - talk 08:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have not been canvassed. I check Simple pretty regularly, I just rarely have anything to add. Tombomp (talk) 08:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- It depends on how you define canvassing. Majorly talk 12:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am getting a bit confused, Archer7 says there was canvassing; where is it? Chenzw Talk 12:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please see Andycjp's 07:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC) comment. Giggy (talk) 13:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am getting a bit confused, Archer7 says there was canvassing; where is it? Chenzw Talk 12:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- It depends on how you define canvassing. Majorly talk 12:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have not been canvassed. I check Simple pretty regularly, I just rarely have anything to add. Tombomp (talk) 08:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect this to be the same for Tombomp, and maybe ComputerGuy890100. Canvassing is definitely not allowed. Archer7 - talk 08:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
(un)Yes but where? Theres nothing on his talk page? Kennedy (talk) 13:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- But Ryan does use IRC and email extensively. I notice Andycjp is part of Wikiproject Christianity on EN along with Ryan, so there could be some connection between them there. I guess Andy's the best one to ask here :) Archer7 - talk 15:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Archer7, that really ticks me off. I've gone through that over and over with CM16 and AfNC. But I never did anything like that. Ryan has done nothing wrong. Please don't accuse these things, it's not right. -- American Eagle (talk) 03:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Look, I have nothing against Ryan at all. But canvassing is not allowed, it makes RfAs easier. I'm not even saying Ryan knew it was wrong and did it deliberately, it's an easy mistake to make. An editor has come to us and said that he was canvassed, we have to take notice of that. I was also suspicious of a few other votes, for good reasons. This RfA will succeed even if we remove all of the suspicious votes, so it doesn't matter now, but we had to address the issue. If I think an important policy has been violated, no matter how much I like the editor that did it, I will point it out. Archer7 - talk 20:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Archer7, that really ticks me off. I've gone through that over and over with CM16 and AfNC. But I never did anything like that. Ryan has done nothing wrong. Please don't accuse these things, it's not right. -- American Eagle (talk) 03:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
A simple breakdown of the VIP reports is deceiving. I haven't reported a vandal to VIP ever since getting the sysop tools; I block on sight after they vandalize after their fourth warning. In fact I can't remember the last time I even handled a report. Also, Microship's comment is way too long, can someone move it to the talk page? cassandra (talk) 17:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- closed --vector ^_^ (talk) 07
- 02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
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