Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 April 14

April 14

File:Gene Hackman and Betsy Arakawa.jpg

No longer used in an article, so no longer meets WP:NFCC#8. See also previous discussion. RoySmith (talk) 13:02, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep, there was no consensus to remove it and the previous discussion made clear that it's not ideal to only use a photo of her as a young child. Immediately starting a new discussion after one just ended doesn't really make any sense unless extremely solid new arguments have been made, which isn't really the case here. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The image is not valid under the fair-use criteria because it includes Hackman as well as Arakawa. That was clearly stated in the previous discussion before, and should not have been ignored by the closer. It is an immediate reason why it cannot be kept in its current form. If it were to be cropped and the portion only including Arakawa to be used that would be more in line with the discussion which progressed previously. Personally I don't think we should use that image at all, given we have the one from when she was 11, but at the very least the issue above needs to be resolved and a new version used. — Amakuru (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as not in use - I have uploaded a cropped alternative, File:Betsy Arakawa.jpg, which I believe fulfils the desire to have an image of her in the article, while also not including detail from the copyrighted image that isn't necessary for this such as Hackman. There was a reasonably strong consensus on the specific point of such a crop being preferable to the original image in the prior discussion anyway, even though there wasn't an overall consensus to delete, so hopefully this will draw a line under the matter. — Amakuru (talk) 15:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weren't you the one who removed the photo from the article? Buffs (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly support a crop, but your link is a redlink, so I think you might have typed the wrong thing? For closers -- Delete if there's a crop Mrfoogles (talk) 21:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete there is a free image already. And this particular image fails the fair use criteria anyway Bedivere (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both this and Amakuru's cropped version. There is a better fair use image in the article.--Laun chba ller 18:29, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you closed the previous discussion as no consensus, perhaps you should refrain from weighing in with a !vote here. Buffs (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer Do you mean the one tagged for speedy deletion b/c it's from the associated press? Mrfoogles (talk) 21:11, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Didn't we JUST have this discussion?. While this isn't technically forumshopping, repeatedly bringing up the argument until the desired result is achieved is in poor taste. There was also a 3 out of 4 consensus for inclusion of the cropped photo, something that Amakuru actually did. IMHO, we should keep the photo as they both sadly died in the same location under notable/related circumstances. Buffs (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the previous discussion should not have been closed without a proper reasoning. no consensus does not mean keep. and, most importantly, the article is about Arakawa, not Hackman, so it does not make sense to put him in the infobox, especially when the image is under a claimed fair use rationale (which is invalid however you see it). Bedivere (talk) 01:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is indeed about Arakawa. This image is about her marriage which includes Hackman. As for the previous discussion, no consensus effectively means status quo. The problem with redoing this discussion is the fact that we JUST closed it. Redoing the discussion over and over until you get the result you want is unseemly. Typically people wait and/or ask previous reviewers to comment. I see no effort to do so in this instance. Buffs (talk) 15:11, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's so many things that have gone wrong here, but the proximate cause of my filing this was that the image was no longer being used in any article, which is an automatic fail on free-use and a different issue from the first time. But, sure @Mrfoogles @Goszei @Howardcorn33 @Queen of Hearts @Alalch E. @Pppery pinging everybody from the first discussion who isn't already here. RoySmith (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Young ones bambi.jpg

Delete: The file is a user generated montage of four stills from a DVD. Per WP:NFG, we don't generally use those. If we did use this image, we'd need four separate rationales for each use of the image, as it's four separate images just merged into one. There's really no justifiable rationale for any of the images. The rationale on the montage says "to show all four characters from TV series". The four prime characters of the series are already shown in the infobox of the article with the image File:The Young Ones.png. This user generated montage serves no purpose that this image doesn't already fill. It's entirely redundant and should be deleted. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unnecessary, copyrighted. Buffs (talk) 20:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]