Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trevor Pyke

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The result was redirect‎ to Das Boot (film)#Accolades. Mojo Hand (talk) 02:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Trevor Pyke

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Article fails WP:BIO, current sources are a list of Academy Award nominations and a very brief obituary. Searching finds very little with coverage of the award nomination limited to the name appearing in articles listing all nominees. For example this list article. A redirect to Das Boot (film), where he is mentioned in the Accolades section, is an alternative to deletion. Gab4gab (talk) 18:19, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and England. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 02:51, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Das Boot (film)#Accolades. Pyke meets WP:ANYBIO; you need to either win a big award or get multiple nominations. For Das Boot, he won the German Film Award (top German film award) and the Motion Picture Sound Editors' Golden Reel Award in addition to his Oscar nomination. Das Boot set the standard for sound editing for submarine movies, a genre where the soundscape dominates.^[1]

The German article has more information: de:Trevor Pyke. Unfortunately, despite Pyke's notability, neither the English nor the German articles have information about his life and career that doesn't come from IMDb, an unreliable source (WP:IMDB), or his terse 2-sentence paid obituary. I found no good refs except some tiny little bits.^[2] Hence the redirect; we just don't have enough to build an article with.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 03:44, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Koldau article was interesting and while it never mentioned Pyke it is some coverage of his work that is helpful to notability. It would be helpful to have a source for the two awards mentioned. Gab4gab (talk) 15:17, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gab4gab, the awards come from Das Boot (film)#Accolades. And, yes, I'm a submarine movie aficionado, so I very much enjoyed that Koldau article, too.

-- A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 15:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I'm amazed Das Boot didn't win Oscars for its sound and score -- they really set the tone for a great film (as Koldau noted).

-- A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 15:51, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep ~~and tag for improvement~~ or redirect per reasons above - if it is redirected then someone can hopefully improve this page in the future.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:55, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Clearly does meet WP:ANYBIO #1. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Necrothesp, I'd love to keep the article but what do we use as WP:RS to build it?

-- A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 15:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's a WP:STUB. Nothing wrong with them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:22, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. If it can be expanded and further sourced that would be amazing, obviously, but if not it still meets notability standards and should stay. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 21:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Das Boot (film)#Accolades as we don't have enough sourcing to meet GNG. Although he does appear to meet the first section of WP:ANYBIO, the sourcing just isn't there for a good article. We can redirect for now and restore/expand the article if and when sources are found. --MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 14:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Das Boot (film)#Accolades per the above as an ATD. CycloneYoris ^talk! 17:59, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.