Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Carpenter

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The result was merge‎ to List of Scream (film series) characters#Tara Carpenter. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:38, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tara Carpenter

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Unnotable (and largely unsourced). WP:NOTFANDOM, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:5P1. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 15:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of Scream (film series) characters#Tara Carpenter would be a fair WP:ATD. BenKuykendall (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:40, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep No evidence of a BEFORE has been shown, and a simple search yields a wide variety of articles discussing the character in some depth, or discuss developmental info regarding the character, such as the following sources:

Jenna Ortega teases 'suffocated' Scream 6 as Ghostface heads to New York | Metro News

Scream 6: Taking a Stab at the Big Apple – The Tack Online (bvtack.com)

'Scream VI', Tara Carpenter, And A New Way To Look At Trauma (dreadcentral.com)

Scream (2022): How Tara Carpenter Stole the Show (movieweb.com)

Scream VI Unveils a Horrifyingly Brief Synopsis (cbr.com)

Scream 6's Tara Romance Fixes The Biggest Legacy Characters Failure (screenrant.com)

And I've barely even gone past Page Two of GNews hits. I'm sure if a more thorough search was performed than mine, anyone would find a wide variety of information related to the character. This AfD seems highly unwarranted. Pokelego999 (talk) 22:08, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Movieweb, Valnet and Dreadcentral sources doesn't contribute WP:GNG. Metro and Bvtack are unreliable. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:30, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Greenish Pickle! My script for marking unreliable sources just picks up Metro. Can you point me to where the other soruces are marked as unreliable? Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources does not mention them :(

In general, I don't consider such soruces to be very reliable, and the article right now is in a terrible shape, but https://web.archive.org/web/20221110200906/https://movieweb.com/scream-2022-how-tara-stole-the-show/ (link to bypass ads) and the dreadcentral article linked above for example do seem to meet SIGCOV (I did not check other, they don't mention the character in the title and likely fail SIGCOV - if someone cares to claim otherwise, please do so, with quotes). Oh, and Screenrant article seems borderline ok too, and you did not call it out as unreliable...

Leaning weak keep for now. Of course, tag this article with cleanup templates (I'll do it now). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:12, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I seen somewhere before that Metro was marked as unreliable, but I think it was probably at WP:VG. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 13:57, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my source assessment below (of the sources linked above), the article could maybe pass GNG if we clear up the question marks. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 19:40, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Edward, CBR.com has its own Wiki, and based on my own analysis, the site is blog-based, meaning it is not reliable. MovieWeb mainly relies on WP:TABLOIDs from other sources, which means it is also unreliable. Finally, the Screen Rant source is actually fairly significant. I counted 24 instances of Tara's name appearing. Granted its about her relationship to Chad, but delves into how their romance is shown to us the viewers. Conyo14 (talk) 04:51, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CBR has been used for articles in the past. Their reliability, from my experience, tends to be dependent on what is written. Granted, it only has a small blurb of info about Tara, so it's not an end of the world scenario if it isn't fit for the article, but I thought it best to include all that I could find from my brief search. Pokelego999 (talk) 17:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Metro News	WP:RS/P	~ Barely? Seems to focus on the plot	✘ No
bvtack.com	Greenish Pickle! says it's unreliable, but I can't find any listings on RSN	Focuses on the plot.	✘ No
dreadcentral		Barely.	✔ Yes
movieweb	No RSN discussions; leaning towards unreliable.		? Unknown
cbr.com	No consensus at RSN. Also out of their scope.		✘ No
screenrant.com			? Unknown
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Scream (film series) characters#Tara Carpenter. NYC Guru (talk) 08:52, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to the list of Scream characters, or Jenna Ortega, I'm not fussed about where it goes. There is no critical discussion about the character in RS, as seen from the source table above. Oaktree b (talk) 14:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as usual with most character articles. There is almost nothing to say here outside in-universe lore. Any real-world stuff is more closely related to the films than the character in their own. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:09, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge as WP:ATD. There is a valid target if it helps produce a compromise. As is, there isn't enough WP:SIGCOV to support this as a separate article. Regardless of the outcome, editors can continue to discuss how to cover this at the related notable articles. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.