Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Section 1 (NYSPHSAA)

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The result was merge‎ to New York State Public High School Athletic Association. I see a clear consensus to Merge All. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Section 1 (NYSPHSAA)

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I am also nominating the following related pages:

Wikipedia is not a directory. These are also largely redundant with lists such as List of high schools in New York (state) or categories like Category:High schools in Albany County, New York etc. I'd support moving this information to a category structure (High schools in NYSPHSAA class A, high schools in NYSPHSAA section whatever, etc.) but I don't think any individual section is notable enough to justify getting its own Wikipedia page. Apocheir (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Sports. Apocheir (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all to New York State Public High School Athletic Association per WP:ATD. The content is useful and that article is short. It could contain the content; particularly if we were to restructure the information so it doesn't take up so much space. It's also not outside of the scope of that topic.4meter4 (talk) 00:56, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all to New York State Public High School Athletic Association. Not notable individually, but we should keep the info. Meters (talk) 01:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- And no, despite the similarity in user names and the coincidence in timing, this is not a duplicate vote. Meters (talk) 01:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  insert the meme of Spiderman pointing at Spiderman here Apocheir (talk) 01:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is not just a list of schools. Did any of you actually look at New York State Public High School Athletic Association? Yes that main article shows the individual sections but by the time all the content from each of the sections is added, it will turn into a huge article. Essentially, the reason the Sections as individual articles exists is to PREVENT a huge single article. That is what is called organization of the information. The NYSPHSAA keeps their schools in organized sections of like sized leagues of schools for equitable competition. Showing the organizational structure is why these articles exist. Why shouldn't wikipedia duplicate their means of organization? To reduce the number of articles? Or are you wanting to eliminate information? That is not our purpose. We have the information. It reasonably reflects what exists now and can be edited to be kept up to date in the future. It is our job to report what exists. It would be completely irresponsible to merge and then not include all of the content of the eleven sections. Trackinfo (talk) 04:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- We wouldn't lose the organizational structure by merging the section articles to the main article. The lists of schools would still be separated by sections. And the lists of schools is pretty much everything that is in these section articles. Meters (talk) 05:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With a 17 year history to back me up, I expect nothing but bad faith from deletionists. Maybe this NOM will prove me wrong. If merged, I might expect an incomplete list. If the full list is added I expect a follow up tag complaining the article is too large followed by efforts to sneakily remove the content without discussion. I have never seen a merge ultimately not result in a loss of content. The NOM already mentioned the overlap with List of high schools in New York (state) showing no effort to read the organizational structure is the major difference. So the next illiterate will follow up by just merging to that list and all structure will then be lost. Trackinfo (talk) 05:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I look at further at the article, there are a bunch of the sections that have not been started. When those fill in, this will become much larger. Trackinfo (talk) 05:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into New York State Public High School Athletic Association. Separate articles for every sections is an overkill, but having some information about how sections work in the main article is sensible. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:10, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all to New York State Public High School Athletic Association. I don't think this will make the article too long. As far as a restructuring to manage the overlap with List of high schools in New York (state) in the future: there is a possibility of a proposal that would be an improvement, but I don't see one. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.