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Reginaldo Ndong

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Declined prod. Whilst it looks like a lot of sources, 8 of the 9 are databases or results listing and not enough to meet WP:SPORTSBASIC. The only third party source is this one and is a small mention and not SIGCOV, the source is about the more famous Mark Lewis-Francis. LibStar (talk) 23:45, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, Sport of athletics, and Africa. LibStar (talk) 23:45, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. We have so much WP:V info about this subject from WP:RS documenting a career spanning more than six years, which is why I expanded the article to include some of that info I found. There is without a doubt more coverage in Equatoguinean sources, but the sad reality is the vast majority of those sources are only available in physical media for the time being. To prove this, I went through all the publications at List of newspapers in Equatorial Guinea and checked (keeping in mind the subject's career peaked around 2003 to 2008):

El Ebano: Archives only go back to August 2020
Ahora EG: Archives only go to March 2019 (click the "next" button until the end)
La Gaceta: Archives only go to February 2023
La Nacion: Could not find an online archive
La Opinion: Archives only go to September 2016
El Tiempo: Could not find an online archive
La Verdad: Archives only go to July 2014
La voz del pueblo: Could not find an online archive
Diario Rombe: Established in 2012

So, we don't have access to a single Equatoguinean newspaper from the subject's time period, when we know he was regarded as "the nation's best" according to American media. I am also convinced by User:Tamsier's argument in Special:Diff/1284809145 that there is a systemic bias against African countries broadly, and we should take that into account when evaluating the accessibility of sources. --Habst (talk) 01:47, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: meets WP:NTRACK as the top Equatoguinean sprinter in the mid-2000s per this FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Proquest search only turns up the Sunday Telegraph source, on the page and also mentioned by FyzzyMagma. That one is interesting, even though it does not count towards notability. It is primary for the race and little - if anything - to write an article from. There are 43 words about the page subject. It is not SIGCOV, but it says, in full, it would have taken a career- best from Equitorial Guinea's Reginaldo Micha Ndong. "Reggie" clocked 11.47sec at the last World Championships when only 16. He is his country's finest but yesterday's 11.27sec was yards short of putting our Mark out of the afternoon. We need someone to be writing about the subject, not just mentioning that he ran in a race. Leaning delete here, but let's see if anything else can come to light. Also, is there a suitable redirect target? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:56, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Without comment on the rest, order of suitable redirect targets for Olympians should always be:

1. <country> at the <year> Summer Olympics for one-time Olympians

2. If not mentioned or country page does not exist, link to only Olympic event results article

3. If multiple events / Olympics, pick the event results article the subject finished best at

4. If finish is the same, pick the latest event

So for this case it would be Equatorial Guinea at the 2008 Summer Olympics. --Habst (talk) 20:54, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. I'll keep looking a bit longer for sources before entering a !vote. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. From my experience in writing an article on a recent Equatoguinean Olympian, it appears that the country gives a good deal of coverage to their prominent athletes. In this case, he was known as "the best" in Equatorial Guinea per ~~American~~ British media. That the ~~American~~ British media somehow knows he was regarded as Number 1 in Equatorial Guinea indicates that there would be coverage in Equatorial Guinea of him. Remember that not one Equatoguinean newspaper has been searched, since no archives are accessible to us. Yet we still know that he was very accomplished in his country and regarded as the best. Further, the pretty decent expansion of the article arguably satisfies WP:NBASIC, which notes that If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. However, I think this should also be an instance where WP:COMMONSENSE should be used and we should admit that the odds the number one athlete in a nation would not have coverage -- when we know they give decent coverage to their top athletes and nothing has been searched -- is so very slim that a strict application of the rules would not be helpful to the encyclopedia. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Sunday Telegraph is British, not American. "He is his country's finest" implies that he was the runner with the fastest current times for his country at that point. It was speaking in the context of a single race and not necessarily as an all time great. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:25, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How can someone be the "his country's finest" in only a single race? You can be a nation's "best performer", maybe, but I don't think that wording fits and I don't think that interpretation of the text is accurate. Considering the newspaper went into his race results from a year past, I think there is some more general proclamation being made here. --Habst (talk) 15:45, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I said fastest current times (plural), leading to his selection to compete in that race. He is the country's finest because he is there. Nothing in that article, occasioned by a report of the British interest in it, can be used to infer that he was the finest ever for his country. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per FuzzyMagma. Tamsier (talk) 17:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]