Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ravencroft
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Features of the Marvel Universe#Prisons. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
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Fictional prison from Marvel/Spiderman verse. Pure plot summary and list of appearances. No reception, analysis, etc. The topic also has a section in Features of Spider-Man media (a problematic article that is currently discussed in its own AfD). I doubt we need even a single mention of this on Wikipedia outside a plot summary in some Spider-Man arc or comic; we certainly don't need two. This could be ATD-R to the mentioned article, but IMHO that one should be deleted as well, so... shrug. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:16, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Comics and animation. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:16, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Features of Spider-Man media. Though that article is up for AfD right now, the content will likely be merged to another article if merged, or kept around if kept, so I'm comfortable leaving a redirect here. Features of the Marvel Universe is also a decent merge target should that article be kept, but it's a bit up in the air right now given all these AfDs are active at the same time. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:59, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect I think we this we should wait with this discussion on the results of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Features of Spider-Man media and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Features of the Marvel Universe, both potential merge targets. Both are covering this topic. But they could benefit from some references here. This ScreenRant article, while not establishing notability, has relevant commentary to show that this topic can be covered beyond just plot-summary and real-world appearances. Daranios (talk) 11:15, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - If you want this discussion to wait until the previously mentioned AFD debates have concluded, why do you have merge/redirect verdict instead of a suggestion the Delay the AFD verdict or something like that? --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't presume to speak for Daranios who I am sure will correct me if I am wrong, but I am assuming they agree the nominating topic is not notable and should be merged/redirect somewhere, with the best target being in the air for now, depending on whether the other mentioned article or articles survives the AfD or not. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Rtkat3: I would prefer to wait with the decision until we know the result of the other AfDs. I just thought I cannot be sure if a closer will follow my request, so a selective merge as described would be my opinion if I am forced to decide now. Does that make sense? Or is there a different suggested procedure for such a case? Daranios (talk) 17:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- The AFD for Features of the Marvel Universe has already closed due to an amount of keeps it received. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's weird: The AfD has been reinstated, but with no trace of the intervening closure. Well, let's see what happens there. Daranios (talk) 16:08, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- The AFD for Features of the Marvel Universe has already closed due to an amount of keeps it received. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Rtkat3: I would prefer to wait with the decision until we know the result of the other AfDs. I just thought I cannot be sure if a closer will follow my request, so a selective merge as described would be my opinion if I am forced to decide now. Does that make sense? Or is there a different suggested procedure for such a case? Daranios (talk) 17:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - If you want this discussion to wait until the previously mentioned AFD debates have concluded, why do you have merge/redirect verdict instead of a suggestion the Delay the AFD verdict or something like that? --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep if more worthy sources can be found by other contributors or merge with Features of the Marvel Universe in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. As mentioned above, the AFD for Features of the Marvel Universe has closed as keep. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as we have two different proposed target articles right now. And the correct link to the Marvel AFD is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Features of the Marvel Universe (3rd nomination).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge relevant material to Features of the Marvel Universe, because this is primarily cited to first-party comic refs. Merge to Features of Spider-Man media should that list be retained at AfD. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:57, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Features of Spider-Man media, for which this article has citations more than substantial enough to be included as a listed item. BD2412 T 18:16, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect or merge. Neutral on the target. "Features of Spider-Man media" is up for deletion, and may itself be removed, or merged. This redirect can be changed based on that outcome. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment on merge target: Now that Features of Spider-Man media has been decided to be merged and Features of the Marvel Universe kept, I suggest to merge/redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe#Prisons. Daranios (talk) 08:25, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.