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Was previously soft deleted at Quadrobers. Appears to be a flash in the pan Russian furry-adjacent subculture where every source exists from a tiny window of time where this blew up into a moral panic. Seems to fail WP:GNG. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 12:04, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. The subject is notable, as demonstrated by 33 (!!!) reliable sources.
The English-language sources include:
1. Vogue: "Quadrobics is the fitness trend that improves all-over strength (and your abs)", 5 July 2024
2. New Indian Express: "Quadrobics: low-impact, high-intensity workout", 21 July 2024
3. The Manual (via Yahoo Life): "Quadrobics is a full-body workout surging in popularity — Here’s what to know", 10 December 2024
4. Women Health Magazine: "Horsing around: what is quadrobics and how do you do it?", 8 January 2025
The Russian-language sources include RIA Novosti, Vedomosti, Russian Public Opinion Research Center, Channel One Russia, RBC, Hi-Tech Mail, Izvestia, Gazeta.Ru, Lenta.ru, big Russian sports portals like Sports.ru [ru] and Championat.ru [ru]. Actually, too many to mention.
And just take a look at the Russian Wikipedia page (ru:Квадроберы) that has a stunning count of 70,000 characters. I have no idea why the nominator insists the subject is unnotable. --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Additional comment. The nominator is the same user who wanted to delete the "Quadrobers" article back in January. The article has been edited/improved by many people and it seems that Warrenmck is the only one who has found something wrong (or inappropriate?) with it. In January, he argued that it was "a mostly unsourced flash-in-the-pan subculture or moral panic" and that "every source is from the same roughly one month window in Russia". Neither was true. The article was carefully sourced even back then, and the publications used as references were from as early as May 2024 and as late as December 2024. Now, there's at least one from 2025. --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some Russian articles about quadrobics:
1. RBC Life: "What is quadrobics: Is it a sport or not. Why do they want to ban the quadrobics in Russia", 23 May 2024;
2. Mail.ru: "Quadrobics: What you need to know about a new hobby", 5 August 2024.
3. The Moscow Times (in English): "What is quadrobics, Russia's viral but divisive youth culture, 13 September 2024;

But, as I've said, there're too many to list here.
Therefore, if even this were an article about a Russia-only subculture (as the nominator argues), its subject would still pass WP:GNG.
(But it is not specific to Russia.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some more English-language sources, currently unused:
1. BBC: "Quadrobic panic in Russia over craze to dress and walk on ...", 27 February 2025
  (I can't look at and use this one cause bbc.com isn't working for me.)
2. Barron's: "Fur flies as Russia takes on young fans of 'Quadrobics'", 8 November 2024

--Moscow Connection (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This is the author of both this article and the previously deleted one. I'm failing to see any sources that don't come from outside a tiny window of time when it was a flash in the pan meme in Russia. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 13:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This is the person who tried to delete the "Quadrobers" article in January. And the sole person on Wikipedia who finds it "inappropriate" or whatever.
"I'm failing to see any sources that don't come from outside a tiny window of time when it was a flash in the pan meme in Russia."
— OMG, I've listed several here. Some were published as early as May 2024. And they already were listed in this article back in January. I wonder why you couldn't see them and still can't. I've also listed two from 2025 right here today. --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSUSTAINED is the issue, here.

Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability.

Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 13:42, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It has been a year it's in the news. That's already not a "brief burst of news coverage".
Moreover, the four English-language sources I listed in my first comment aren't even news articles. They just talk about quadrobics in general, as a workout. They explain what it is. --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Except that isn't sustained over a year, it seems to mostly be English press occasionally picking up the situation in Russia and covering that offset in time, i.e. a huge amount of those sources are about the exact same event (in this case the virality of Quadrobing in Russia occasionally as it relates to LGBTQ+ persecution in Russia) Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 14:14, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you think so. Quadrobics is not just about Russia. Quadrobics is still trending on YouTube, TikTok, and probably on Instagram too. There's also a "Quadrobics" subreddit, it is alive and well. Quadrobics isn't going anywhere. --Moscow Connection (talk) 14:25, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Moscow Connection (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Moscow Connection (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kazakhstan-related deletion discussions. Moscow Connection (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:SIGCOV and nontrivial impact. --Altenmann >talk 15:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per previous AfD. Only a regional variation of the Furry fandom. Svartner (talk) 10:35, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't true on so many levels... (It's so wrong that it's impossible to argue with.... "Furry fandon", whatever... In short, there are 1 trillion sources, the topic is notable. Full stop.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:17, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

False argument. (1) not regional (you can easily see this from refs cited) and (2) not furry fandom(you can easily see this from refs cited) --Altenmann >talk 16:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]