Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Punch dimension
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Cyclops (Marvel Comics). Liz Read! Talk! 23:48, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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Non-notable fictional concept. The references included outside of primary sources only consist of trivial coverage, largely from content farms. Searches are not turning up any significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, making it a failure of the WP:GNG. I would have suggested redirecting it to Cyclops (Marvel Comics), except I don't think the name "Punch dimension" has ever actually been used in any official capacity in the comics, and is just a joke/meme name made up by fans. Rorshacma (talk) 17:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Comics and animation. Rorshacma (talk) 17:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Cyclops (Marvel Comics) as natural parent topic: Aside from the CBR, ScreenRant and BleedingCool articles used in the article, this Collider article also covers the Punch Dimension and asserts that it is "described in 1983’s Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe", i.e. not a joke/meme name made up by fans. Daranios (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - The concept of Cyclops' power being powered by another dimension is not the made up joke/meme, its the name "Punch Dimension" to describe it that is. The actual quote from the 1983 Official Handbook on the topic is quoted in this article - note that the name "Punch dimension" does not appear in it. Merging is not necessary because the full description of Cyclops' powers, including the concept of it being generated by portals to a dimension of kinetic energy is already described in Cyclops (Marvel Comics)#Powers and abilities. And Redirection would not be appropriate as the name "Punch Dimension" is not the official name of that dimension in the comics themselves, and is not named as such in the Cyclops article. Rorshacma (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, just to be sure I've understood correctly, said dimension is not named in 1983 Official Handbook anywhere outside the quoted passage? In that case we still have secondary sources like Collider, which I assume to be reliable, and ScreenRant, where consensus is "reliable for entertainment-related topics", which this is, which report on that fan-generated name. So we can and should briefly include this somewhere on Wikipedia based on those sources, and Cyclops still seems a fitting target for this bit of information to me. (And this, unexpectedly, makes it a non-plot, real-world related factum.) Daranios (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Did I fly too close to the sun with this article? Perhaps. But was it worth it? Yes, yes it was. Er, I mean, I don't really object, because the name is a meme, but the dimension is real. Alliterator85 (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Can't find much WP:SIGCOV for a separate article. Might even be a WP:NEOLOGISM and WP:OR. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- As everything is referenced and an additional source is listed above, WP:OR seems very unlikely. Daranios (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Cyclops. No real SIGCOV, but it is a concept attached to Cyclops already described at his article that is a valid target for this. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 13:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to Cyclops. There is some out of universe content here that is not covered at Cyclops (e.g. the Punch Dimension appearing in canon in 2017, some more details on handbook changes). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
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