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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 05:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Otello Capitani

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Classic LUGSTUB with no credible assertion of notability under WP:NSPORT. FOARP (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, and Italy. FOARP (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I don't see any sources other than database listings, either now in the article or elsewhere. Nothing to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 13:17, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There's this [1] but Google doesn't show the full view, so I can't see how extensive it is. Oaktree b (talk) 13:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The first snippet reads:
    "E i combattimenti in terra d'Oltremare porrano le pemesse anche alla creazione dell'eroe e dell eroismo sportivo, un'epos che ha il suo precusore in Otello Capitani"
    In machine translation:
    "And the fighting in the overseas lands will also put the omens to the creation of the hero and of 'sporting heroism', an epic that has its precursor in Otello Capitani"
    The second is apparently a quote that reads:
    "Questo contributo reco Otello Capitani alla Patria sui campi di Libia..la sua memoria viva perenne in noi"
    Or in machine translation:
    "This contribution Otello Capitani brings to the Fatherland on the fields of Libya... his memory lives forever in us"
    This appears to be sourced in the index to an obituary entitled published in 1912 by The Panaro Gymnastics and Fencing Society (La societa Ginastic e Scherma del Panaro), which is in Capitani's home province of Modena and of which he was likely a member. The obituary was entitled "In memoria di Otello Capitani. Nel trigesimo della sua morte" ("In Memory of Otello Capitani. On the thirtieth day after his death"). FOARP (talk) 13:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This book confirms that Capitani was a member of the Panaro society and also quotes an obituary in Il Ginnasta, which was (and is) the in-house magazine of the Italian Gymnastics Federation, as well as a history-book called "Un Secolo di Vita" published by The Panaro Gymnastics and Fencing Society. FOARP (talk) 13:59, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Oaktree b: See below, I was able to access more of it and it has at minimum 200 words of biographical coverage, but it looks like more, and it also seems to mention that sources like La Gazetta dello Sport covered him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:51, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, per SIGCOV in the book cited above, which is much more than the two lines mentioned. It cuts me off after a point, but I was able to read over 200 words of coverage to him and it looks like their coverage continued of him for a while; at the same time it cited other sources that talked about him such as La Gazetta dello Sport. He's also discussed in many other books and in the journal article Giochi diplomatici. Sport e politica estera nell'Italia del secondo dopoguerra (1943-1953), which says that "It was in this political context that the myth of Otello Capitani was born, the first martyr of Italian sport. The athlete of the Gymnastics and Fencing Society..." – but I can't read further. We already have SIGCOV and some very, very strong indicators of further SIGCOV as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:48, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per above. GauchoDude (talk) 19:29, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Per BeanieFan11. There is offline coverage from major Italian newspapers. Svartner (talk) 04:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - None of the above keep votes have been made by anyone reading any actual coverage of the subject. Either it is asserted that there must be coverage after the section quoted above (which was a quote from an obituary published by the organisation of which Capitani was a member), or it is asserted that there is coverage in offline newspapers that the !voter has not read. FOARP (talk) 05:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Modena on March 17, 1890, Capitani, at the age of twelve, enrolled in the local "Panaro" Gymnastics and Fencing Society and, after a year, began to make people talk about him. Wanting to participate in the Carpi gymnastics competition (1903), despite the age limits not allowing him to do so, he managed to compete with a subterfuge and win a silver medal in the artistic test of the category above him. In 1908 he took 1st place overall at the Piacenza Extraordinary Competition, at the London Olympics he was 19th, and at the Genoa Federal Competition (1910) he finished 2nd. In 1911, Capitani decided to anticipate the call to arms by enlisting as a Sergeant Student in the 36th Infantry of the Ligurian capital. In Genoa, during his military service, he joined the “Cristoforo Colombo” Gymnastics Society, and that year he led a platoon of comrades he had trained to victory in the 2nd Military Gymnastics Competition. 21 Then, on 15 October 1911, he embarked for Libya with the 89th Benghazi Machine Gunners as his destination. Otello Capitani, faithful to his gymnastics background, also exchanged respectful correspondence with General Luigi Capello during his breaks from service: "How can I thank you for the memory you keep for me? I would have liked to write to you...

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