Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Fish

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. ✗plicit 14:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Fish

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This article fails WP:GNG WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Olympics and New York. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:12, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As much as I'd love this to be the same person [1], there is nothing about this athlete to be found. The name seems rather common. Fishmonger named Joe Fish would be perfect, but not notable either. Oaktree b (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable with coverage such as this and this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:45, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no SIGCOV. Jay Cubby 01:03, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you look at the presented sources? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:27, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  I did, and I don't see how those constitute sigcov. Jay Cubby 02:29, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  The first is over 200 words devoted just to him, while the second is over 350 words – that's sigcov. Further, he's a medalist at the world championships, Pan American Championships and Goodwill Games. I don't see why multiple pieces of demonstrated significant coverage (and probably more we haven't found, given the common-ness of 'Jon' and 'Fish') for someone with clearly significant accomplishments would not be sufficient to demonstrate notability. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:45, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Is Olympedia a reliable source? It appears to be a wiki from what I can tell. The second source appears to be WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 01:18, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  It houses content formerly hosted by Sports Reference and, per the article, editing "is restricted to about two dozen trusted academics and researchers who specialize in Olympic history." BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:23, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Thanks Beanie. While my search on newspapers.com didn't reveal much more about Fish, I think that there is enough here to keep, although I'd recommend a redirect to Rowing at the 1988 Summer Olympics – Men's coxed pair as a WP:ATD to deletion should the consensus be not to keep this as a standalone article. Let'srun (talk) 20:52, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:26, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I agree with BeanieFan11, article passes WP:GNG and also WP:NSPORTS. He was in the Olympics and won medals in important international events like World Championships and Pan American Games. This kind of result normally makes the athlete notable. Also, there is at least one newspaper article that talks in detail about him, which shows WP:SIGCOV. Pridemanty (talk) 11:49, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – [2] There is an article with in-depth coverage in the athlete's hometown newspaper. I consider that rowers usually won't have much more than that, so assuming good faith, it's sufficient. Svartner (talk) 02:11, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I agree. Plenty of coverage. NSPSORTS and GNG applies.BabbaQ (talk) 05:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per coverage, though the article could use some expanding. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per references found above. Article obviously needs expansion. @BeanieFan11: How many words on a newspaper that can be considered SIGCOV? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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