Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Dotson (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. After a full listing period the claims to notability are unverified. The discussion also raises significant doubts that those claims would establish notability in any event. The consensus is to delete. Mkativerata (talk) 22:23, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Dotson

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Unsourced BLP, possible hoax. Despite the claims made here, I can find no sources myself, and no news coverage of the person at all. Previously up for speedy deletion, but removed by the article creator. Sven Manguard _Talk 22:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Although he supposedly received platinum album awards for his work on No Doubt's Tragic Kingdom and the Offspring's Smash, neither of our articles on those albums mentions him as working on those albums. Furthermore, this article claims his recording studio closed in 1992, but that was before either of those albums was recorded. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The article does not assert he won awards through his closed studio. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - At the very least, the article is confusing. "Jim Dotson produced many up and coming Orange County Bands including The Offspring (I'll Be Waiting/Blackball), No Doubt, Tabitha's Secret, Bill Ward (musician), Warren Fitzgerald and The Vandals. The studio closed it's doors in 1992 but the legendary bands and musicians that worked there live on." The implication is that he did his work for the Offspring and No Doubt, among others, before 1992, but that was before either band's big album was recorded. Maybe he was given platinum album awards for working with those bands earlier in their careers (i.e. not on Tragic Kingdom or Smash), or maybe the situation is something else that I haven't even thought of. But with no detail provided and no sources, I don't know how we can evaluate these claims. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as hoax. Edward321 (talk) 01:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment NOT a hoax, as this individual does exist,[1] and certain record company websites acknowledge his participation. If his awards can be sourced, he may squeeze in under WP:ANYBIO. But yes... commonality of name does add to difficulty. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. His getting a platinum record is the equivalent of the fitness coach getting a championship ring. He is a non-notable cog in a notable machine. Everyone who worked on the project received a record, but that doesn't mean that they are all notable. ANYBIO is a catch for notable people in niche fields that don't have their own notability guidelines. Sven Manguard _Talk 04:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.