Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeopardy! broadcast history (3rd nomination)

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The result was Keep, withdrawn nomination. Anyone wishing to discuss a merge can do so on the parent article's talk page. Non-admin closure. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 14:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jeopardy! broadcast history (3rd nomination)

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In my opinion, a separate article on the broadcast history of a television program is completely unnecessary and inappropriate for Wikipedia. I have relocated all useful content from this article into the main Jeopardy! article. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and this project page states, "Notability of a parent entity or topic (of a parent-child tree) does not always imply the notability of the subordinate entities." For these reasons, I feel that no amount of notability pertaining to the broadcast history of any television program ever conceived will ever be able to warrant an entirely separate article from the parent article. Plus, I want the parent article to balance the focus it places on the Art Fleming versions with the focus it places on the Alex Trebek version. — Seth Allen (discussion/contributions) Monday, January 14, 2013, 02:30 UTC.

keep Jeopardy's broadcast history is more complex than most shows. There is enough notable content available to sustain an article. I can see an argument to merge. Is this correct procedure for a merge, move content to the main article and submit the other article to AfD? I have a strong bias against resubmissions to AfD. Its almost like double jeopardy.Tjc (talk) 05:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That's a good question, and the answer is generally no, that is generally not advised procedure for a merge. Suggest that nominator start a merge discussion and close this discussion unless the nominator's intent is to argue that the content of this article has no place on Wikipedia (which does not appear to be the nominator's intent). For what it's worth, I think this is probably an appropriate split of the parent article, given the length of the resulting section, although I echo the nominator's skepticism that this subtopic is really independently notable (bearing in mind as I do that Jeopardy! has a lengthy and interesting history). ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 14:11, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per valid sourcing in article; suggest that nominator open a merge discussion instead. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 14:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge: Useful content that can be used in Jeopardy!; if merged, it cannot be deleted per WP:MAD. RJaguar3 | u | t 15:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are enough sources to support the existence of an article. —Ed!^(talk) 16:25, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The sources in the article demonstrate that this topic is in accordance with WP:N. This is a very reasonable WP:SPINOFF of the Jeopardy! article, which is currently at around 100 kilobytes in size. Per WP:SIZERULE, articles this size should "Almost certainly should be divided," although this is a guideline and rule of thumb. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:55, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 14:32, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 14:32, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep!! - Given the concerns that all of you people have addressed and the guidelines set forth in WP:SIZERULE, although various main articles on U.S. television programs have over the years been allowed to exceed 100 kilobytes in size (which is part of why I wanted to make the parent of the article discussed here the first game-show article to achieve that distinction), I guess this spinoff is indeed reasonable and the broadcast history of Jeopardy! – unlike those of most other shows – is independently notable enough for a separate article. I am sorry that I had to nominate this child article for deletion in the first place; I felt that I would side with one of those "deletionists" who want to limit the contents of Wikipedia on the basis of notability – which I have seen said is purely subjective and outright questionable. I have decided to condense the "Broadcast history" section in the main article to just a couple of short paragraphs and a link to the child article, let the child article speak the rest of the information for itself, and have this discussion closed. - Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 15:37 UTC.

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