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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. No prejudice against recreation should he meet WP:ATHLETE in the future.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:18, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Javier Manquillo

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Prod was contested by an IP who said "The player has a promising career; he has made his first-team début and is currently representing Spain at the under-19 European Championships as their starting right-back. Why delete a profile for a player who is on the cusp of making the big-time?" This player has indeed played - but not in a fully-professional league, so therefore fails WP:NFOOTBALL - and he may be notable in the future, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Most importantly, he fails WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 19:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 19:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - maybe if he plays for the national under-19's team he'll be snapped up by a better club. It's a short enough article to be re-created if this happens. But, as it stands, he hasn't played in a fully professional league or in the senior national team, so fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG at the moment. Sionk (talk) 20:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete - I think this is one of those prospects that are being talked about by many sources (A google search for "Javi Manquillo" seems to give a broad range of established newspapers and magazines covering the prospect which could be argued as grounds for notability along with an even larger number of non-reliable sources) but, as it stands, since player has not yet played for a fully professional league, fails WP:NFOOTBALL but there could be an argument in favor of the basic criteria of WP:ATHLETE. -- Louk⟟nho≟ 20:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - per nom. As already stated, this article fails WP:GNG. He has not played in a fully pro league, and a single cup appearance against a third division side is insufficient to confer notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:46, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 02:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 02:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Manquillo was on the bench in La Liga games against Real Sociedad and Malaga last season. Pretty much every Real Madrid Castilla player has a page (I know they are Segunda now), but they weren't deleted. Also played as a starter for a La Liga team (regardless of opposition) in Copa del Rey and various friendlies. Also as mentioned a starter for Under-19's and has lots of media coverage. Why delete when it will just be made again in a few months? --82.32.214.23 (talk) 18:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Being on the bench or playing in friendlies is not enough to meet WP:NFOOTBALL - neither is playing in one Cup game against a team not from a professional league. Other non-notable players having articles is a case of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, while the potential of being notable in the future is a case of WP:CRYSTAL. Most importantly, this article fails WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 18:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure why it matters so much that this page doesn't exist, and I know that despite what anyone says you'll probably delete it anyway, but why should the opposition of the cup game matter? He was playing FOR a top five La Liga team, they are the ones who pay his wages, not Albacete. That has no reflection on his notability or talent whatsoever. --82.32.214.23 (talk) 21:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I for one also believe that he seems talented and that his page will likely be re-created in a few months but this is how the wikipedia policies work and we can't have an article for a player that has not yet played a match in first or second division Spanish soccer. This is the criteria. There are many many players who play with Javi Manquillo side by side and are not deserving of an article of their own. Indeed, there seems to be a greater coverage about him than the others but unless this coverage is displayed in several (multiple) big-name-big-bucks-national-coverage newspapers and specialized magazines, the policies do not support his inclusion as an athlete either. I am positive that this article will make a comeback in a matter of months, but, as it stands today, according to the policies, it probably shouldn't be here yet. Best wishes to the player. -- Louk⟟nho≟ 21:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC).[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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