Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henrik Steffens Professor

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The result was merge to Henrik Steffens#Legacy. The remaining redirect will be cheap. bd2412 T 03:36, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Henrik Steffens Professor

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This named professorship does not satisfy the general notability guidelines for inclusion in Wikipedia. Searches do not turn up significant independent discussion or coverage of the professorship. Furthermore, I do not think a merge or redirect to Henrik Steffens is appropriate since the chair is simply named after the man and is not likely to be a valid search term. (Note also that this article does not qualify for speedy deletion since it makes claims of importance through the appointed professors). Malinaccier (talk) 01:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The claim that he is a named chair of the Humboldt University of Berlin is a claim to meet WP:PROF#5 (I think?), but as I can't read German, cannot verify this for sure. Adam9007 (talk) 02:29, 16 August 2017 (UTC) Ignore - I'm an idiot. Adam9007 (talk) 02:41, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, you are at least the fifth person to think that this is a person and not just a position named after a person :). Malinaccier (talk) 05:13, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Upgrading to Speedy delete per WP:G11 — no other evidence of notability exists, even when trying a simple Google search. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 02:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will add to my own comment that I have to agree with both Jytdog and Tarage below. I wasn't able to tell firsthand, but indeed I can see this as an outright WP:PROMO. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a "named chair" like those in Oxford, but a guest professorship programme. I think delete for failing WP:GNG is ok, but the Chair should be mentioned in relevant articles if we have them (I don't think we have one about the Scandinavian studies institute of HU Berlin or Norwegian-German cultural relations; in the article Henrik Steffens, the existence of this chair could be mentioned, but none of the content from here could go there). The article history makes for sad reading: the article was incorrectly tagged for speedy as a duplicate of Henrik Steffens. The author removed the tag (which was bad form, but I would have done the same for such an obviously wrong speedy tag). Multiple other editors edit warred with the article creator to keep the wrong CSD tag on the article even though the author explained (on their talk page) that the article obviously does not satisfy WP:CSD#A10, as it is about a different topic. The original author is currently blocked and unable to participate in this discussion. Please do not close this discussion until the page creator has been able to respond. —Kusma (t·c) 05:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
delete PROMO and aggressively protected PROMO at that. Jytdog (talk) 07:59, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete PROMO --Tarage (talk) 18:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Henrik Steffens to match the article in Norwegian Wikipedia.[1] Roberttherambler (talk) 18:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Note that I do not think a merge is appropriate. Having something named after a person over one hundred years after their death is not particularly relevant to that person. I suppose under a more broad "cultural legacy" or some such. Malinaccier (talk) 21:21, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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James Watt, Alessandro Volta, André-Marie Ampère, James Prescott Joule. Roberttherambler (talk) 22:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Henrik Steffens#Legacy. I have to agree with Roberttherambler here that there is sufficient precedent to include such honors, even after death, in a legacy section of the person's article. Regards So Why 08:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Henrik Steffens#Legacy. I agree with SoWhy and Roberttherambler that there is a reason to include this in the legacy section of Henrick Steffens' article. Elliot321 (talk) 15:40, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as suggested above, since the chair doesn't meet GNG on its own (unless there are Norwegian and/or German sources we're missing); mention in the article about the hosting university also seems appropriate. I don't see any basis for invoking WP:PROMO unless the argument is that Kjelltyrid (the article creator) is the same person as (or affiliated with) Janke Klok... there's only one sentence in the article as it stands that's arguably anything but dryly descriptive, and half of that is a cited quotation. I'll add that I think it's a shame that Kjelltyrid seems to have been chased off en.wikipedia by the circumstances surrounding this doomed article. We can do better. —GrammarFascist _contribs ^talk 02:10, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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