Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Green Monkey Records
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Due to the limited support for deletion, please do not renominate for the next six months. Owen× ☎ 12:03, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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I do not believe this indie record label passes WP:GNG. The article as written is mostly referenced to primary sources or blogs. I could not find much coverage in my own search, just a couple short articles from local newspapers found on newspapers.com. Mbdfar (talk) 14:20, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Companies, and Washington. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm in the process of finding WP:IRS and was able to find one today from The Rocket magazine https://washingtondigitalnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=RCT19860401.1.9&srpos=2&e=-------en-20-RCT-1--txt-txIN-green+monkey+records------ I assume it is acceptable. If not please let me know. I will add more content and WP:IRS as time permits. I am fairly new here as far as contributing. Otheriver (talk) 23:49, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- I do consider that a WP:RS, but more will be needed to satisfy WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Consider WP:AUD – The Rocket at the time was a small, Seattle-based music magazine. My search also turned up some additional The Rocket articles, but are you able to find additional sources that cover the subject in-depth? Mbdfar (talk) 18:55, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure yet. I'm still at the beginning of my research. I was going to check a Seattle Times article the same day, but it was behind a paywall. I have some other places I need to check and read yet. Otheriver (talk) 01:59, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- I do consider that a WP:RS, but more will be needed to satisfy WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Consider WP:AUD – The Rocket at the time was a small, Seattle-based music magazine. My search also turned up some additional The Rocket articles, but are you able to find additional sources that cover the subject in-depth? Mbdfar (talk) 18:55, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm in the process of finding WP:IRS and was able to find one today from The Rocket magazine https://washingtondigitalnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=RCT19860401.1.9&srpos=2&e=-------en-20-RCT-1--txt-txIN-green+monkey+records------ I assume it is acceptable. If not please let me know. I will add more content and WP:IRS as time permits. I am fairly new here as far as contributing. Otheriver (talk) 23:49, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep there are enough sources to establish notability given that there is less media available online from that time frame. Also the label had a few established acts. Darkm777 (talk) 18:51, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Where are these sources that establish notability? Mbdfar (talk) 19:09, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - I had tagged this in 2023 and see nothing that has taken place since that time to establish notability (a quick BEFORE search finds nothing meeting WP:CORPDEPTH. As far as "there is less media available online from that time frame" - what time frame? The 1980s? We have archives and I searched those as well. Didn't find what is necessary to show WP:NCORP. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:52, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The citations presented are OK and will pass notability guidelines. The PopMatters review and KEXP coverage provide independent recognition. Yolandagonzales (talk) 15:07, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Album reviews don't cut it. This is a company so WP:NCORP applies. Can you point out the WP:THREE that meet WP:ORGCRIT?--CNMall41 (talk) 16:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Which citations? One of the two blogspot posts, the WordPress page, perhaps the book titled Gobbledygook: A Dictionary That's 2/3 Accurate, 1/3 Nonsense? Otherwise, some stuff that's entirely about Tom Dyer, The Green Pajamas, and one album the label published. Trivial mentions about the company itself. The Rocket article is the only source presented that, imo, lends notability to the label. Mbdfar (talk) 17:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There is also coverage in The News Tribune by Gillian G Gaar from 1988 [1] (some quotes from Tom Dyer, but info about the label too, in an article about many independent labels). I have found a couple of articles about Tom Dyer from 1986 and 2021 in The Olympian [2], [3] which include info about the label. There's also some coverage in The Strangest Tribe: How a Group of Seattle Rock Bands Invented Grunge [4], but I'm not sure how much - the index lists 4 page numbers, but the digital book has no page numbers and not all pages are visible, unfortunately. It looks like there is probably enough. If there isn't enough for an article about the record label, there probably should be one about Tom Dyer. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:06, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:14, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
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