Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fil Delacruz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter¹²³ (post) @ 15:11, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fil Delacruz

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Just like the WP:PROD said, this failed WP:GNG with just one presumably WP:RS. –H T D 10:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - this is probably something that hasn't been fully established yet for Philippine-related articles, but a visual artist who has received a "Thirteen Artists" award from the Cultural Center of the Philippines may be considered notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. The Thirteen Artists award is an established triennial award who includes notable Philippine artists like Manuel Baldemor and Antonio Austria. It given to young, promising artists (at the time of the awarding), and receiving one such award would help improve a visual artist's chances of being nominated as a National Artist of the Philippines (although this has yet to happen, AFAIK). That said, this article has room for improvements (this reads much like a biography/CV), and some of the awards could probably be eliminated if they can't be considered to be very important awards. (I plead ignorance for things related to the local visual arts scene, so maybe another editor with better knowledge of the visual arts could probably help improve this one.) --- Tito Pao (talk) 15:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If such "Thirteen Artists" award is truly notable, it should have been covered by independent third party sources. The references of him getting such an award are from the Wikipilipinas wiki and his own freely-hosted website. That's not reliable at all. –H T D 16:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With regard to the "Thirteen Artists" awards per se, it is (somewhat) notable, just not on the same scale as being appointed a National Artist. That said, I do agree that this article in question needs more citations to use. Especially not Wikipilipinas --- Tito Pao (talk) 10:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are two things that have to be done: 1) Show that the award truly is notable by using references from multiple reliable sources, and 2) Show a reference from a reliable source (or more) that this person won said award. That's the only way we could gauge the notability. –H T D 15:30, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Davewild (talk) 17:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Article has been significantly improved since nomination. As well as the thirteen artists award (about the significance of which I am dubious) we have better evidence for notability: his art is in the permanent collection of the National Museum of the Philippines (reference 2 of the article, spelled as "Fil dela Cruz"). We also have several in-depth and reliably published sources about the artist listed as sources (here's another: [1]). I think he passes WP:ARTIST. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:47, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep: The text surely needs to be rewritten to escape the CV format. At present, it really reads more like a job application than a retrospective or contextualization of an important and referred-to artist. However, the subject himself passes notability. It does seem as if this points out a need for solidifying the awards structures of nations .en Wikipedians will be less familiar with so that nominations are clearer. Hithladaeus (talk) 14:29, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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