Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/E.C. Victory

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The result was merge to East Carolina Pirates. Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:26, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

E.C. Victory

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No indication of notability, as mandated by WP:GNG. Fails WP:MUSIC as well. GrapedApe (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - WTH, is this gang up on me week? If a college fight song isn't notable, then I suggest the offended party go to Category:College fight songs in the United States as well. PG Pirate 05:05, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't apply here, sorry. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:32, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Don't worry, I'll be checking that category for other NN songs.--GrapedApe (talk) 12:44, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per failing GNG and MUSIC. The only sites that come up are either ECU or mirrors of this article's Wikipedia entry. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for those reasons. There is no verified content worth merging anyway. Drmies (talk) 23:59, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - The school and its sports teams are certainly notable, and their fight song at least deserves a mention. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Softie! Drmies (talk) 01:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - What has ice cream got to do with it? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Paul McDonald (talk) 01:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Somewhat related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hail to Thy Name So Fair. As I posted there, we normally find major university fight songs to be notable, if only as a stub. While the internet doesn't show a lot of fruit for reliable sources here, there should be plenty of offline independent reliable sources available where the information can be verified.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll admit that I'm dumbfounded. I've never, ever, heard that we find college songs per se notable. Please, add these offline independent sources. --GrapedApe (talk) 03:32, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Where do you draw the line? One of the delete nominations was for the fight song of Rutgers or one of them. Who knows that one, outside of Rutgers students? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 09:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - WP:IDONTKNOWIT covers this nicely, stating "arguments that state that because a subject is lesser known or even completely unknown outside a given locality does not mean the subject is not notable."--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Red herring. We need sources, per WP:GNG. There's no credible claim of notability in the article or by Paul McDonald.--GrapedApe (talk) 12:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - That's my point. It was a red herring to bring up Rutgers in the first place. It was an obvious attempt to thwart the discussion from the actual issue by bringing up something else.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:21, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If sources can't be found, Merge to East Carolina Pirates. Patken4 (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with redirect per Patken4, unless sources can be found to flesh this out to something better than a stub. Fight songs were often more popularly recognizable both historically (e.g. in the era of big bands) and in their local region, but this article has essentially existed as is since 2006 with little expansion. Not even local Greenville or ECU university sources are used to flesh out the origins of the song. Merge and let the subject grow to the point where it can breakout into its own article naturally, if it comes to that. CrazyPaco (talk) 07:20, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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