Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CardsApp

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Very little by way of policy based argument on the keep side. Mojo Hand (talk) 17:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CardsApp

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Non-notable mobile phone app. Zero hits on Google News, no references to third-party sites in the article, no real third party coverage on a google search. User has only edited this article, and had another article on the "merchant's control panel" for this app speedy deleted. Possible WP:SELFPROMOTION, though the article doesn't really read like a blatant ad to me. 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 22:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC) 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 22:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

`. CardApp is very notable in China, with more than 1 million users. Also there are 7 references to third party independent sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.217.70 (talk) 09:00, 20 February 2014 (UTC) — [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete. Advertisement of an apparently non-notable product. The sources cited are splogs. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ (struck since you can only say Keep once per user). I bet "apps worth" blog would like to know he is operating a "splog". No advertising material what so ever in this article. Pure informational content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.217.70 (talk) 10:43, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This app is very "notable", also in Israel, where the biggest loyalty club (110,000 customers)is working with this app. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.102.234.154 (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2014 (UTC) — [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete Reads like marketing copy, no reliable sources. Simonm223 (talk) 15:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Insufficient evidence of notability. Wikipedia isn't here to provide free advertising. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I'm not worried about the way the article is written, if necessary it could be rewritten to seem a little less like marketing information. But there's no evidence of notability here, and coverage by blogs doesn't count. If the app catches on and gets attention, and we can provide significant coverage in reliable sources, then the article may be recreated at a future date. But it's premature to have an article at this time. -- Atama頭 17:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Hi guys, CardsApp is famous in Israel. Rewrite the article if seems like an ad, but it has no promotional content in my opinion. This is a major app and why shouldn't Wikipedia hold a page about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.159.221.48 (talk) 18:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC) — [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment All current Keep requests on this AfD currently seem to come from WP:SPA accounts devoted to this app.Simonm223 (talk) 20:45, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NOTADVERTISING. Sources do not meet WP:RS, duplicate each other and fail WP:NOTMANUAL. Miniapolis 22:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete advertisement for (for our purposes) non-notable product. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 07:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment NintendoFan Curious as to your reasoning. Simonm223 (talk) 14:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I am as well, so far all keep arguments have been from SPAs, so I'm wondering what your argument for notability is. Not just to challenge your !vote, but possibly to change my mind. -- Atama頭 17:51, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly - as the first non-SPA account to speak in favour of keeping at all I'm interested in the rationale as much to ensure I didn't miss something as anything else. Simonm223 (talk) 19:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The article doesn't look like an ad, but it needs improvement. NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 22:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So no comment on the notability of the subject? 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 22:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is marketing speech, for example the assertion that the app makes it so that there is no need for plastic cards (maybe that's the intent, but the article makes it sound like this app has successfully made lives easier). That's just one example. It's really minor though and just requires some small rewrites, which is why I think the "not an advertisement" argument is a bit of a straw man argument since none of the deletion arguments in this discussion were based solely on the advertising copy. Any arguments to keep the article that don't address the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources are not addressing the main concern from those asking to delete the article. -- Atama頭 23:59, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak keep~~. This is obviously has nothing to do WP:NOTADVERTISING. Read it twice and no advertising there. This app is not yet notable in western world but I think it's kinda famous in Asia so we should keep it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.159.221.48 (talk) 08:33, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. I found a lot of info, the app is notable for sure. The article seems to be clear of advertising and etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.102.234.154 (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note These last two unsigned are double votes from IP editors who have already voted. I've struck the votes. 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 14:20, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete blatant promo, no truly 3rd-party sources about any actual notability. --Vituzzu (talk) 11:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In Israel, cardsapp is very popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.65.164.20 (talk) 21:01, February 22, 2014‎ (UTC)— [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Comment The above keep also from an apparent SPA. I'm seriously suspecting some IP jumping going on here from the makers. Simonm223 (talk) 21:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:44, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't see anything in the references that would qualify as a WP:RS for WP:GNG purposes. Someone not using his real name (talk) 20:58, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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