Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balot

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 19:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Balot

Non-notable individual. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let me just add, as the initiator of this AFD, that I am open-minded and will support keeping the article if it can be expanded and materially improved.Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 15:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep This actor appeared in many films in the 1970s. He is quite well known in the Philippines as well. Although a google search provides few links to this individual, more work needs to be done on this article. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 14:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - most of his films weren't really put anywhere except INDB because they happened so long ago. Needs some expansion, but meets basic notability if you use the Filipino sources. -- Logical Premise^Ergo? 14:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please provide a link or citation to these Filipino sources? --Explodicle (T/C) 17:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. -- J^mundo 21:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- J^mundo 21:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Unless some more sources can be found, we only have a list of films of IMDB, most seeming to be bit parts. If there are Filipino sources, please present them. Searching is complicated as he shares his name with a boiled duck egg. Fences and windows (talk) 00:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a minor correction, it's actually a boiled aborted-duck egg. Cheers! --Maverx (talk) 08:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Actor is notable however his death predates the internet boom, articles related to him may only be available on printed media. Attempting to research extensively on subject. --Maverx (talk) 06:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be on board for keeping once you present these sources. --Explodicle (T/C) 17:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I realize sourcing will be more difficult for a foreign actor from the 70s and 80s, but he doesn't appear to be notable. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 01:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Balot, Côte-d'Or unless sources that establish notability are presented here. --Explodicle (T/C) 17:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No! do not redirect to Balot, Côte-d'Or; User:Explodicle is labouring under a misconception and mixing apples and oranges. The subject of this AFD is a person; Balot, Côte-d'Or is a geographical location with no connection to the subject (who was from the Philippine, in any event). Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 15:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! User:Rms125a@hotmail.com has the misconception that I have a misconception about the subject of this AfD. If a user searches for "Balot", they should get sent somewhere that might be useful instead of being presented with a 404 error. Make no assumptions about which topic for which they are searching. --Explodicle (T/C) 16:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Are there any Filipino newspapers or magazines, which archive articles from the seventies? If not, you can't realistically be expected to find any. Just as in the cases where a book was published a century ago, you don't need to find references in third party media sources, since that isn't likely to be possible. Dream Focus 17:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand your reasoning. Are you saying we should keep this article because it may be impossible to find sources? --Explodicle (T/C) 18:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete where are the reliable, independent sources that treat the subject of this BLP in any depth?Bali ultimate (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and expand. He is clearly dead so there are no BLP concerns. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expand with what sources? Since he's dead, and no reliable sources were generated in his life, it's unlikely that some will emerge later. Still fails bio, dead or alive.Bali ultimate (talk) 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are those the same research skills that made you think he was still living? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bali's research skills don't change whether or not the article has sources to establish notability. --Explodicle (T/C) 13:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And your backhanded personal attack is ridiculous. Do you have reliable sources that discuss the subject of this bio in any depth? When someone says "keep and expand" one would hope they could point towards which sources might possibly be used to expand the article. If they can't point to any sources, then their comment is idiotic.Bali ultimate (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.